Originally posted by Kadesh
Yup, people like s_w_legend like to rant crap that malak > nihilus cuz he ruled the sith empire
I have been arguing for Nihilus for a long time in this forum. Unless you were blind or something, everyone have noticed it.
That's fine with me. I was thinking of making a Top 10 of the KOTOR Era...sometime later today after I look over some more info. But I guess I can make it the Top 10 of the TOTJ Era.
Just for the sake of not getting into an argument with you, here'd be my list...without Nihilus on it.
1. Exar Kun
2. Darth Revan
3. Ulic Quel-Droma
4. Darth Traya
5. Darth Malak
6. Darth Sion/Vodo-Siosk Baas
7. Darth Sion/Vodo-Siosk Baas
8. Nomi Sunrider
9. Darth Bandon
Now, again, this is just my list off the top of my head.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDLiar, you said malak is superior to nihilus in force mastery etc,
People like S_W_LeGenD do not claim that Malak is more powerful then Nihilus. Though it is true that Malak was not a weakling either and was better then Nihilus in Saber Combat at-least.I have been arguing for Nihilus for a long time in this forum. Unless you were blind or something, everyone have noticed it.
Originally posted by Nikkolasvery good one
That's fine with me. I was thinking of making a Top 10 of the KOTOR Era...sometime later today after I look over some more info. But I guess I can make it the Top 10 of the TOTJ Era.Just for the sake of not getting into an argument with you, here'd be my list...without Nihilus on it.
1. Exar Kun
2. Darth Revan
3. Ulic Quel-Droma
4. Darth Traya
5. Darth Malak
6. Darth Sion/Vodo-Siosk Baas
7. Darth Sion/Vodo-Siosk Baas
8. Nomi Sunrider
9. Darth BandonNow, again, this is just my list off the top of my head.
1- Luke Skywalker (DN)
2- Darth Sidious (DE)
3- Exar Kun
4- Yoda
5- Darth Revan
6- Darth Bane
7- Darth Traya/ Kyp Durron
8- Darth Malak
9- Count Dooku
10- Darth NihilusReasons:
- Luke Skywalker actually have surpassed all in the mastery of the force. Those who still don't agree with this fact actually don't know much about Star Wars.
- Darth Sidious was the most powerful Sith Lord ever known and demonstrated some amazing force powers including the deadly "Force Storm".
- Exar Kun was so powerful that he could even defeat Luke, but Luke was lucky to only face his old spirit. But even his 4000+ years old spirit was a major threat to Luke and it took the combined effort of many Jedi Students to end the legacy of Kun's spirit. So, we can imagine that how powerful actual Kun would be.
- Yoda deserves to be at at-least fourth place as he is the most powerful Jedi known after Luke. I can't understand any reason to under-estimate him.
- Darth Revan: Master Kreia once said that "Revan was Power. Staring in to his eyes was like looking in to the heart of the force". Revan has performed many impressive deeds to warrant him a place at 5th spot at-least. And POD Novel has clearly indicated that it was due to Revan's knowledge that Bane became immensly powerful. Revan also knew devastating "Force Lightning Storm" that could kill many opponents in a single blow.
- Darth Bane: Read POD Novel for more information.
- Darth Traya: She has demonstrated us some impressive abilities that are seldom seen in others. But those abilities are not enough to make her reach TOP 5 spots. Kyp Durron also is in this spot.
- Darth Malak: Malak was the 2nd best after Revan in KOTOR and also became a Dark Lord of the Sith. He demonstrated powerful "Force Lightening" like that of Sidious, and "Saber Throw" like that of Darth Vader. He knew "Force Drain" and many other force powers as well. So in-short words, he was a very fine force adept.
- Count Dooku has also demonstrated great mastery in force. He could rip heavy objects from their foundations and throw them on helpless victims to crush them. He was also good at "Force Lightning" and his "Force Grip" was strong as well.
- Darth Nihilus has reached TOP 10 spot here because of his immensly powerful Force Drain technique. But he was not that powerful in actual fight.
LeGend does say Malak is above Nihilus here at least.
I’m pretty sure this is what you’re referring to, Kadash. It was said by Sith’ari, not LeGend.
It made him powerful enough to rule above Sion and Nihilus in a society where the strongest rule, contend with Jedi Master Revan, and tool two powerful jedi knights like they were children...
Your reply and his reply is found here.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=8046583&highlight=Nihilus+Malak+userid%3A103561#post8046583
But he also said
Revan killed a Sith who was no less then Traya and Nihilus.
There’s no one in KOTOR 1 or 2 as strong as Nihilus.
Also, if this reason provided by ACStyles is why Revan is above Nihilus...it’s horribly weak.
Big whoop the Exile killed Nihlius with help from all sides, and ebat Kreia who's weaker then Revan. We can look at what future era's think of the KOTOR period, Revan is the ONLY name mentioned from the KOTOR era as powerful in POD, Revan is mentioned along with Exar Kun (the most powerful being in the TOTJ era) and Naga Sadow who feat wise also appears to be the most powerful. That alone is enough.
Originally posted by MasterAshenVorExactly, if Nihilus was so uber, then he would've just drained the Exile right then and there. So either he's stupid, or his draining takes a while.
Nihlius SUCKED HARD! seriously i played KOTOR and if he was that powerful he would have killed me when he first spoke.....Seriously i think SION was like 25% better since he was like invincible
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDTrying is the first step to failure, do or do not (yoda)
Keep trying...
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDThen it is settled
And I do agree that Nihilus > Malak but that does not means that he is superior to Malak in all aspects of the Force.
Originally posted by Kadesh
Trying is the first step to failure, do or do not (yoda)
I said ill post it when i find it which i cant because you said that um 3-4 months ago?
Then you're on the first step to failing, considering you're trying to search for it (regardless of if you take a hiatus or not).
And only Sith deal in absolutes.