Originally posted by General G
You keep saying that, but yet still no substantial proof backing it up, he went to the dark side to try to protect the galaxy and the republic, not for domination or personal gain...he may have given him the idea, but that doesn't make him a true Sith.
What the hell do you define as a true sith? A candidate for the sith'ari is not a true sith now?
Originally posted by General G
Why is he a candidate? What did he do? He did not destroy the Sith and make it stronger, and was a Jedi first and even went back to the light even after knowing what he did on the dark, he knew the light was better, you would think a sith'ari would think the opposite.
Revan DID destroy the sith and thereby making them stronger as a result of Malachor V. Where do you think Nihilus, Traya, and Sion came from?
Re: Darth Nihilus: True Sith Lord?
Originally posted by NikkolasHe USES the Sith and the "Darth" identity to advance his own goals in seeking Jedi and eating them... i.e.
Is he truly a Sith or a Sith only in name?Evidence Against Him Being A True Sith Lord:
Kreia: “And he cares nothing for the Sith or its teachings... or the Jedi. And when the Jedi are dead, he will feed on the galaxy, the Republic, and eventually, consume the Sith as well. There is no future in the empty galaxy he sees. And that is why he must be stopped; the breach must sealed, before his power grows beyond what even we can hope to stop. One cannot have power of that magnitude that her master possesses and still think and perceive the universe as we do, as most of us do.”Kreia: "{Chiding} Power? Do you think so? {Shakes head} You would be wrong. There is no strength in the hunger he possesses... and the will behind his power is a primal thing. And it devours him as he devours others - his mere presence kills all around him, slowly, feeding him. He is already dead; it is simply a question of how many he kills before he falls.”
Evidence For Him Being A True Sith Lord:
He possesses a Sith holocron.He is alongside other Sith like Lord Bane and Andeddu.
He is named [b]Darth
Nihilus (though NO ONE calls him by this in the game) [/B]
He doesn't really give a f*ck ABOUT them though.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Revan DID destroy the sith and thereby making them stronger as a result of Malachor V. Where do you think Nihilus, Traya, and Sion came from?
At Malachor V, they weren't fighting the Sith, they were fighting the Mandalorians, so no, he did not destroy the Sith at Malachor V.
Originally posted by General G
At Malachor V, they weren't fighting the Sith, they were fighting the Mandalorians, so no, he did not destroy the Sith at Malachor V.
You miss interpret what he said.Revan destroyed the sith by killing Malak. but he made them stronger by clearing the way for Traya, Sion and Nihilus.
Originally posted by NikkolasIt did say THE ravager, I will ask now, do we know if he lifted all the starships at once? Because he could have lifted them up one by one
Um...what? It doesn't contradict it. Does the screen say "he pulled ONLY the Ravager from Malachor"? If it doesn't, then it's not a contradiction.Contradict-
to contradict is to state that something is the opposite of what has been said;
Except Nihilus isn't a DLOTS, none of those new KOTOR sith are DLOTS.
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"Darth Nihilus, the Lord of Hunger, was a Dark Lord of the Sith[1]"
If it establishes him as a DLOTS in Evil Never Dies, then he is. There' no arguing it. It's canon.
It did say THE ravager, I will ask now, do we know if he lifted all the starships at once? Because he could have lifted them up one by one
Indeed he could have.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
...."Darth Nihilus, the Lord of Hunger, was a Dark Lord of the Sith[1]"
If it establishes him as a DLOTS in Evil Never Dies, then he is. There' no arguing it. It's canon.
Indeed he could have.
Find me that quote in Evil Never Dies, not in wookiepedia, because as far as I remember, Revan was the last DLOTS until Darth Ruin.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Find me that quote in Evil Never Dies, not in wookiepedia, because as far as I remember, Revan was the last DLOTS until Darth Ruin.
1. Darth Malak was a Dark Lord of the Sith, if you recall.
2. I'll quote this passage Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties:
"Many times the title of "the last Dark Lord" has been erroneously applied. First the Dark Lord Naga Sadow, vanquished by the Galactic Republic in the Great Hyperspace War 5,000 years before the Battle of Yavin, was thought to be the last. Then a thousand years later, the fallen Jedi Exar Kun was considered the last of these dark siders' twisted kind. Then Darth Nihilus . . . then Lord Kaan . . . then Darth Vader."
And from my copy of the New Essential Chronology, page 24:
"A host of Sith Lords rose up to fill the void. Darth Sion, Darth Traya, and Darth Nihilus were among the many to take advantage of the Republic's inability to safeguard its holdings after the Second Sith War."
If Darth Nihilus wasn't an actual Sith Lord, he wouldn't be noted to be such by various sources. Dark Lords of the Sith tend to not take kindly to "pretenders", as evident by Exar Kun, and the Sith Lords Bane and Andeddu, who proclaimed Darth Krayt as one. Kreia even states that "He is one of the Dark Lords that follows you"; although, you can take that for what you will, but it is supported by other materials, which are canon.
"Many times the title of "the last Dark Lord" has been erroneously applied. First the Dark Lord Naga Sadow, vanquished by the Galactic Republic in the Great Hyperspace War 5,000 years before the Battle of Yavin, was thought to be the last. Then a thousand years later, the fallen Jedi Exar Kun was considered the last of these dark siders' twisted kind. Then Darth Nihilus . . . then Lord Kaan . . . then Darth Vader."
🙂 Thanks Advent.
Question, though. Is there a lot about Nihiilus in there? If there is and you ever have the time to write some of it out for me, I'd appreciate it a lot.
So is nihilus a DARK lord of the sith as in the strongest for that era? I think so
Yes, I'd also agree Nihilus is the strongest of the KOTOR Era. If the DLOTS is the strongest, that be him. Of course, people will bring up how Revan was the head of the Sith Empire...which is supposedly governed by the mightiest, correct? Still, we dunno where Nihilus was during the time Revan ruled. He might not even ahve been a Sith yet.
Originally posted by NikkolasYup, people like s_w_legend like to rant crap that malak > nihilus cuz he ruled the sith empire
Yes, I'd also agree Nihilus is the strongest of the KOTOR Era. If the DLOTS is the strongest, that be him. Of course, people will bring up how Revan was the head of the Sith Empire...which is supposedly governed by the mightiest, correct? Still, we dunno where Nihilus was during the time Revan ruled. He might not even ahve been a Sith yet.