Pseudo Badness?

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Hold on a "bastarding, shitty minute"?

Hahaha, I think you need to relax. 😛

'Twas an exaggeration.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Oh, get off your high horse. You act like you're the almighty king of discussion because you hang around a discussion forum on a movie website. Give me a break. You're the same way. The difference? You're in the GDF, and I'm here.

Pardon? I don't act like that, nor do I think it. If that's the way you perceive me, do you want me to tell you who's to blame? You.

Precisely. IF I was that way, I would at least have the added credibility of discussing worthwhile points, not debating drama in the OTF.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
I just wanted to HAVE a discussion. I don't think I'm the don of discussion because I simply wanted to talk about one issue in the OTF.

Oh, get off your high horse, you act like I was referring to you. Don't flatter yourself.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
All I wanted was a civil conversation and for people to express their opinions and act mature about this. What do I get? I get called stupid and my thread gets ridiculed, by some members who are ADULTS.

Adulthood does not guarantee intelligence or common sense.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
I find that amazing. Spectacular!

Perpetually.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
I can understand and I realize that not everyone wants to be a part of this discussion.

If you don't want to be a part of it, why post here? I asked for opinions and hoped for a slice of respect and I get called stupid and then I get insulted.

If you were Mr. Clean Cut and No Insulting then maybe you'd have a case, but you aren't.

-AC

'Twas an exaggeration.

Yes, I know.

I found it funny and I still think you need to relax.

Pardon? I don't act like that, nor do I think it. If that's the way you perceive me, do you want me to tell you who's to blame? You.

Precisely. IF I was that way, I would at least have the added credibility of discussing worthwhile points, not debating drama in the OTF.

Compared to debating drama in the GDF? Please. The same goes for you. If you perceive me as someone who's trying to be this master of discussion, so be it. Let me assure you I am not. If I don't like something, you're going to hear that I don't. If I do, you'll hear that I do. The concept is simple.

I don't know, it seems as if you're always bashing the OTF and how bad it is. You post here frequently, yet you whine about it so much. It's like driving a shitty car with half an engine and complaining about performance.

Oh, get off your high horse, you act like I was referring to you. Don't flatter yourself.

Well ...

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

One thing I think is hilarious (A.K.A: Idiotic.) above all else, is people who hang around the OTF and act like they're the dons of discussion. Seraphim was one of those.

I'm sorry, is there a Seraphim I don't know about?

😐

Adulthood does not guarantee intelligence or common sense.

It does grant leeway to experience, Alpha Centauri. Adults should know better. Honestly, that is the way it works. It SHOULD, but it does not in this case, which is what I said.

We essentially agree.

Perpetually.

Don't be jackin' my words. 😠

If you were Mr. Clean Cut and No Insulting then maybe you'd have a case, but you aren't.

No, but I only insult someone back. Sure, it makes me no better but I occasionally lose it with some people who press my patience. I don't go around randomly insulting threads and calling people who stupid who want an opinion.

Even If I am not, It doesn't give people the right to just do such idiotic things. Then again ...

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Yes, I know.

I found it funny and I still think you need to relax.

Not sure how everyone here has an ability to see through text and see the moods of people, but ok.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Compared to debating drama in the GDF? Please. The same goes for you. If you perceive me as someone who's trying to be this master of discussion, so be it. Let me assure you I am not. If I don't like something, you're going to hear that I don't. If I do, you'll hear that I do. The concept is simple.

Again, chill the ego, don't flatter yourself, I don't think that. I wasn't even referring to you.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
I don't know, it seems as if you're always bashing the OTF and how bad it is. You post here frequently, yet you whine about it so much. It's like driving a shitty car with half an engine and complaining about performance.

Incorrect.

I post here because I'm not against posting here. I'm not against this forum existing. It is what it is, though. Like it or loathe it, it is what it is. It's viewed as KMC's toilet and dump site by many. I didn't say I don't see any reason to post here, I just recognise what it is.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
I'm sorry, is there a Seraphim I don't know about?

😐

I originally had something else typed here, until I got further down your post.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
It does grant leeway to experience, Alpha Centauri. Adults should know better. Honestly, that is the way it works. It SHOULD, but it does not in this case, which is what I said.

And I said they don't always, so it works.

We essentially agree.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Don't be jackin' my words. 😠

Hahahahahahaha.

Welcome back, Seraph. I'm disappointed you couldn't keep up the facade for more than a few seconds.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
No, but I only insult someone back. Sure, it makes me no better but I occasionally lose it with some people who press my patience. I don't go around randomly insulting threads and calling people who stupid who want an opinion.

It still makes you as bad, and now it's all but confirmed that you are a bit of an obvious sock...well.

-AC

Not sure how everyone here has an ability to see through text and see the moods of people, but ok.

They don't. Moods can be apparent through text. It's funny how you don't think that people contain that ability.

The Rofl.

Again, chill the ego, don't flatter yourself, I don't think that. I wasn't even referring to you.

Oh, but of course not. 😐

Incorrect.

This is going to be entertaining.

I post here because I'm not against posting here. I'm not against this forum existing. It is what it is, though. Like it or loathe it, it is what it is. It's viewed as KMC's toilet and dump site by many. I didn't say I don't see any reason to post here, I just recognise what it is.

I didn't say you were against it; I said you were bashing it. You do. Almost all the time, you're complaining about the OTF and how superior the GDF is compared to it.

I could bring up a few posts if you'd like.

I originally had something else typed here, until I got further down your post.

Good to know.

And I said they don't always, so it works.

I never said you said it didn't work, which is why I said I essentially agree with you.

🙂

Hahahahahahaha.

Welcome back, Seraph. I'm disappointed you couldn't keep up the facade for more than a few seconds.

Whoa, someone really missed the boat. Holy smokes.

It still makes you as bad, and now it's all but confirmed that you are a bit of an obvious sock...well.

-AC

No, not really. I wouldn't go as far as attacking threads and personally insulting someone. You've done it. Hell, you've even brought up past debates to assist you in ... Essentially nothing, because it often has nothing to do with your point.

It's what I refer to as a "Disoriented front".

I wear socks, that's where it ends. 😉

Originally posted by Sorgo X
I wear socks, that's where it ends. 😉

No, you are a sock of Soren the Mage 🙂, aka the original Sorgo, which you admitted to myself, Vinny and God knows who else. 😊

Originally posted by Sorgo X
They don't. Moods can be apparent through text. It's funny how you don't think that people contain that ability.

The Rofl.

Then your ability to read moods is as good as your ability to discuss anything.

Shit, to be blunt.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Oh, but of course not. 😐

I actually wasn't, not at the time anyway, I had a specific person in mind.

Though NOW I think of it...you do like to toot your own debating horn, and considering it's never REALLY outside of here, it's a but unjustified.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
I didn't say you were against it; I said you were bashing it. You do. Almost all the time, you're complaining about the OTF and how superior the GDF is compared to it.

I could bring up a few posts if you'd like.

The GDF is superior, and I say the OTF is KMC's toilet. So? We all need to use the toilet sometime. Although you don't, cos you don't have an anus, clearly.

I say it is what it is. Nothing more or less.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Whoa, someone really missed the boat. Holy smokes.

You spend so much time telling me you're not Sorgo, so you change your name to Sorgo X.

This wasn't the best move in convincing everyone.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
No, not really. I wouldn't go as far as attacking threads and personally insulting someone. You've done it. Hell, you've even brought up past debates to assist you in ... Essentially nothing, because it often has nothing to do with your point.

I don't insult anyone personally, I know nobody personally, besides one person.

Nearly every single thread I go into, regardless of what I say, has relevance to the debate or to A debate.

I only ever bring up past debates if it's relevant.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
It's what I refer to as a "Disoriented front".

Better to put up a good front than make it obvious you talk out of your back.

Which I do neither of, but there you go.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
I wear socks, that's where it ends. 😉

Haha, I see. Yeah.

Cos I said you were a sock...so you...haha, nice.

-AC

Then your ability to read moods is as good as your ability to discuss anything.

Shit, to be blunt.

We haven't discussed much. Pointless debating, at the most. You think you know it all. A text pseudo intellectual. Seen it so many times. Type, act, think and work the way you do.

Ironically, you complain about those who try to "read" moods yet you take the cake when it comes to the next level.

By the way, I never said I could read moods. I can sometimes. Anyone can.

Though NOW I think of it...you do like to toot your own debating horn, and considering it's never REALLY outside of here, it's a but unjustified.

No, I don't. Although you have! You've actually gone as far as tooting your own intelligence horn.

Two birds, killed with one stone. Delightful.

The GDF is superior, and I say the OTF is KMC's toilet. So? We all need to use the toilet sometime. Although you don't, cos you don't have an anus, clearly.

Why is it superior? Because you bicker about other thinks besides your own problems? Want to see the difference?

GDF = Discussing others problems.
OTF = Discussing your problems.

People post problems about themselves here. Their illnesses, what's happening, what happened that day, and so on.

The GDF is DIFFERENT than the OTF, but it is not superior. Your mentality is biased.

I say it is what it is. Nothing more or less.

Yes, yes of course you do.

You spend so much time telling me you're not Sorgo, so you change your name to Sorgo X.

This wasn't the best move in convincing everyone.

He misses the boat a second time. I must say that I actually expected that. I shouldn't have, but I did nonetheless.

I'm not Sorgo; I'm Sorgo X, AC.

I don't insult anyone personally, I know nobody personally, besides one person.

Yes, but you've insulted people before during heated debates. I can't say much. I've done it too during debates.

The difference? You deny it. I do NOT. Sometimes, a debate gets hated and someone will insult me and I'll strike back. I prefer even ground.

Nearly every single thread I go into, regardless of what I say, has relevance to the debate or to A debate.

Prove it. You're just running your mouth. I can say that too. Watch, looky here:

"Nearly everywhere I go, girls wanna screw me."

When you wake up, brush your ego off and realize you're not perfect, you may be able to actually perceive that I was trying to have a civil discussion, regardless of the location.

It is not my problem that others cannot hold their shit together for a single thread. Remember this.

I only ever bring up past debates if it's relevant.

Crap. You want it to be irrelevant, but half the time it's not. It's all part of your persuasive spiel to try to take the debating train off of it's tracks. In a lot of the occasions where me and you have debated, you'll throw up a leg and bring up something else in means to insult me or you'll attempt to systematically list out what I'm doing or what I'm trying to like your the god of awareness and perception on personality.

But as you said, it's not easy reading moods through text.

Right, AC? Right?

Better to put up a good front than make it obvious you talk out of your back.

Which I do neither of, but there you go.

Of course you don't. You're AC! The intelligent, all knowing, debating mastermind from the UK!

You're hardly ever irrelevant in a debate, and you can pick up peoples intentions by reading through text with you spectacular mind boggling perception powers! Yeeeeeeeehaw!

I'm trying to see your point of view, AC, but my head doesn't go that far up my ass.

Haha, I see. Yeah.

Cos I said you were a sock...so you...haha, nice.

-AC

Yeah, I wear socks.

Don't you?

Originally posted by Sorgo X
We haven't discussed much. Pointless debating, at the most. You think you know it all. A text pseudo intellectual. Seen it so many times. Type, act, think and work the way you do.

Pseudo? That's quite funny. I don't think I know it all, everyone is essentially a learner in life, but what I do have experience and knowledge to talk about, I know A LOT about. That's not my opinion, that's a fact. I never claimed anything other than I know what I need to know.

Pseudo intellectual implies I'm not intellectual at all, which even for someone that dislikes me, is a stupid claim.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Ironically, you complain about those who try to "read" moods yet you take the cake when it comes to the next level.

By the way, I never said I could read moods. I can sometimes. Anyone can.

This is all a bit irrelevant, point being; You told me to relax, or that I need to, in actuality, I'm fine. So, less of the assumptions.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
No, I don't. Although you have! You've actually gone as far as tooting your own intelligence horn.

Why should I deny the fact that I am intelligent? I'd say the exact same thing to anybody on this site, if they had reason to.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Two birds, killed with one stone. Delightful.

Not sure where you pulled that conclusion from, though speaking of birds, maybe Mr. Stork came and dropped a little present in your lap.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Why is it superior? Because you bicker about other thinks besides your own problems? Want to see the difference?

GDF = Discussing others problems.
OTF = Discussing your problems.

People post problems about themselves here. Their illnesses, what's happening, what happened that day, and so on.

The GDF is DIFFERENT than the OTF, but it is not superior. Your mentality is biased.

Well, you DO have a point. It depends why you come here. If you come here to rant about nothing, chat and whatever, OTF. If you come here to discuss political, social or other issues, GDF is better. However, if it came down to credible debates, GDF would have it. Not this place.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Yes, yes of course you do.

The purpose of this reply was...?

Originally posted by Sorgo X
He misses the boat a second time. I must say that I actually expected that. I shouldn't have, but I did nonetheless.

He? Who are you talking to? Some imaginary audience?

Originally posted by Sorgo X
I'm not Sorgo; I'm Sorgo X, AC.

Did I not just say it wasn't the best move to convince us you're NOT him? Not that you are. Just that it's mounting up.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Yes, but you've insulted people before during heated debates. I can't say much. I've done it too during debates.

We have reasons for insulting. I will rarely go outside of "Idiot.", "Moron." or the like.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
The difference? You deny it. I do NOT. Sometimes, a debate gets hated and someone will insult me and I'll strike back. I prefer even ground.

I don't deny it, I just maintain the idea that there's a difference between intending an insult and the person being insulted.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Prove it. You're just running your mouth. I can say that too. Watch, looky here:

"Nearly everywhere I go, girls wanna screw me."

When you wake up, brush your ego off and realize you're not perfect, you may be able to actually perceive that I was trying to have a civil discussion, regardless of the location.

What do you mean "Prove it."? You've seen my debates. I know for a fact, as it's me saying it, that anything I say in a thread with a specified topic, has either relevance to the topic or the current wave of what's being discussed.

I know I'm not perfect, stop perceiving me as such and then getting mad at yourself for doing it. Never will I say I'm perfect. In fact, more people here have said I think I am, than I ever have, seeing as I never make those claims.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Crap. You want it to be irrelevant, but half the time it's not. It's all part of your persuasive spiel to try to take the debating train off of it's tracks. In a lot of the occasions where me and you have debated, you'll throw up a leg and bring up something else in means to insult me or you'll attempt to systematically list out what I'm doing or what I'm trying to like your the god of awareness and perception on personality.

I want it to be irrelevant? No I don't. Stop telling me what I do and do not want, I get to decide that, you do not. My word over ME is fact, remember? I say I do what I do, you don't get to say anything about MY personal intent.

I don't NEED to take debating trains off their tracks, I'm secure enough in myself to debate whatever is being discussed. I didn't get respect for my debates, from people who dislike me also, by being shit at them, Soggy. It's not an accolade I cherish, but it's one I've been afforded.

I don't think I'm a god of anything, there you go again. When I told you I thought you were trying too hard, you said "If it seems that way, sorry, but I'm not.", and I had to take your word, because it's mine against yours, ABOUT you.

Here's something I will hazard a guess at, and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I think YOU hold me in such high regard that YOU will struggle to have a debate with me wherever possible, like now.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
But as you said, it's not easy reading moods through text.

Right, AC? Right?

Of course.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Of course you don't. You're AC! The intelligent, all knowing, debating mastermind from the UK!

Funny how everyone has this opinion of me EXCEPT me, because in my almost three years here, I've said nothing of the kind.

"But you think you are!", no I don't. Half the time I honestly do not understand the praise I receive. I'm good at debates, so what? Everyone should be. Everyone should know what they're on about before they say it.

That doesn't mean I can't take pride in the fact that I am intelligent, I'd say the same for you or anybody on that note. You need to believe in yourself, because then if nobody else does, it matters nothing.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
You're hardly ever irrelevant in a debate, and you can pick up peoples intentions by reading through text with you spectacular mind boggling perception powers! Yeeeeeeeehaw!

Do you honestly just want my company? Cos I'm here.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
I'm trying to see your point of view, AC, but my head doesn't go that far up my ass.

I believe you would know how far your head would go into your ass, because it is there a lot.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Yeah, I wear socks.

Don't you?

Nah, but I own a few.

You, Whirly etc. You get the point. Post your reply, because now this has gone into the realms of "Let me make AC the focus of my debate then tell him he's self-centered." as most people eventually do, and I'll PM you a reply.

-AC

Pseudo? That's quite funny. I don't think I know it all, everyone is essentially a learner in life, but what I do have experience and knowledge to talk about, I know A LOT about. That's not my opinion, that's a fact. I never claimed anything other than I know what I need to know.

What the f*ck? Are you serious? Stop saying you know a lot. You're so egotistical.

You knowing a lot is a fact?

You need to slow down. You're in no position to call anyone else out on their egotism or arrogance EVER. You have so much to learn, AC. Then again, admittedly, we all do.

Pseudo intellectual implies I'm not intellectual at all, which even for someone that dislikes me, is a stupid claim.

No, no, no. It does not imply that you aren't smart. It implies you try too hard at looking like you're smart, regardless of how smart you actually may be. You're always trying to figure out people in debates and how they'll react or what they do. You fail (Especially with me) all the time, and it's so apparent you do it.

You leave too many footprints in the dirt, AC.

This is all a bit irrelevant, point being; You told me to relax, or that I need to, in actuality, I'm fine. So, less of the assumptions.

No, you NEEDED to relax. It wasn't an assumption. You were going off about "Bastarding shit".

It was my opinion that you needed to relax. The assumption is inexistent.

Why should I deny the fact that I am intelligent? I'd say the exact same thing to anybody on this site, if they had reason to.

You cannot measure you own intelligence, AC. A retard could repeat that they're intelligent a hundred times in a day and it just wouldn't make a difference. Not to mention, Intelligence is extremely subjective, AC.

You're proving you don't know that by calling yourself intelligent.

Not sure where you pulled that conclusion from, though speaking of birds, maybe Mr. Stork came and dropped a little present in your lap.

Conclusion? It was a metaphor.

You're missing the boat once again, friend.

Well, you DO have a point. It depends why you come here. If you come here to rant about nothing, chat and whatever, OTF. If you come here to discuss political, social or other issues, GDF is better. However, if it came down to credible debates, GDF would have it. Not this place.

I have seen debating in there that isn't credible. I've seen bickering and such in that forum. The difference? They're bickering about politicians and homosexuality or another issue instead of debating about each other or a mistake in syntax and such.

Saying you can find a credible debater in a certain forum is prejudice, AC. That's it. That's like me saying you cannot find a credible debater in the Star Wars versus because they argue about Star Wars.

Honestly.

The purpose of this reply was...?

Sarcasm, to point out the obvious.

He? Who are you talking to? Some imaginary audience?

Figurative speech? Maybe.

Did I not just say it wasn't the best move to convince us you're NOT him? Not that you are. Just that it's mounting up.

Do I have some obligation to listen to the sewage that spills from your finger, or ... ?

We have reasons for insulting. I will rarely go outside of "Idiot.", "Moron." or the like.

I'm more methodical when I insult someone. Although the forward approach can be well off sometimes.

I don't deny it, I just maintain the idea that there's a difference between intending an insult and the person being insulted.

You denied it in your last post, AC. You said you didn't insult anyone. You have many times when you've gotten a tad frustrated.

What do you mean "Prove it."? You've seen my debates. I know for a fact, as it's me saying it, that anything I say in a thread with a specified topic, has either relevance to the topic or the current wave of what's being discussed.

Bullshit. I've seen you do it before, AC. You cannot win every debate and you haven't. If you have not noticed, winning isn't getting the last post or talking. Most of the time, when you're on your last legs, you'll throw out some simple rhetoric or jab at the opposition to maintain a standpoint.

I know I'm not perfect, stop perceiving me as such and then getting mad at yourself for doing it. Never will I say I'm perfect. In fact, more people here have said I think I am, than I ever have, seeing as I never make those claims.

No, but you try to pass it off by keeping clean at the edges and making sure you don't f*ck up.

"It's a fact I'm intelligent and it's a fact what topic I discuss, It's always relevant."

Do you actually read the bullshit you type? You're an ego MONSTER, brother!

You think you're the greatest, and if someone throws it in your face, you shift responsibility and go off saying:

"Well, it's just everyone else who THINKS I'm the greatest, not myself."

Not only is that showing your flaming egotistical ways again, It's showing how wrong you are because in this post and the last, you explained how good, how smart and how talented you were.

I want it to be irrelevant? No I don't. Stop telling me what I do and do not want, I get to decide that, you do not. My word over ME is fact, remember? I say I do what I do, you don't get to say anything about MY personal intent.

No, don't try to make it look like I'm forcing something on you. I'll shoot your sideways rhetoric down faster than the speed of light. Almost all the time in the past, the debate has turned into you insulting the opposition to cover loss. Simple. You just use persuasive wording and a good strategy to cloak it over.

It explains why almost *ALL* of our past debates, It's turned into us clashing instead of properly debating. This one, admittedly, was me calling you out but this is only because I'm an inch fed up with you trying to pull this.

I don't NEED to take debating trains off their tracks, I'm secure enough in myself to debate whatever is being discussed. I didn't get respect for my debates, from people who dislike me also, by being shit at them, Soggy. It's not an accolade I cherish, but it's one I've been afforded.

Now you're tooting your debating horn after complaining about me doing it? You're a hypocrite too? Oh boy, the plot THICKENS!

You got respect because you worked the floor, AC. It's not hard. Anyone who has an ounce of brain matter can see through your shit.

Yeah, you're a decent debater but the problem starts when you begin insulting the opposition. Then, the opposition gets caught up with that. Then, you work on it and slowly break the opposition down by hitting them at home. It's simple. It's a popular tactic used in debating, actually.

In a few of our debates, I've had to ask you several times to stop insulting me and actually stay ON topic. Do you not even consciously realize what you're pulling? Have you done it so much, it's converted into protocol? Seriously.

I don't think I'm a god of anything, there you go again. When I told you I thought you were trying too hard, you said "If it seems that way, sorry, but I'm not.", and I had to take your word, because it's mine against yours, ABOUT you.

The difference was, that was an assumption. (Bringing up past debates again, I see. I *DID* call you out on this, you know. Rofl) You assumed that I was using a word to look intelligent. That scenario is so unparalleled to this one. In this scenario, it is CLEAR what you've been trying to pull. Like I said, I've told you before to stop and stick to the debate.

Here's something I will hazard a guess at, and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I think YOU hold me in such high regard that YOU will struggle to have a debate with me wherever possible, like now.

Yes, AC. Everyone loves you and holds you in such high regard. That's why they challenge you. Even though you've done most of the challenging.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Waiiiiiiiiiit!

Holding a bastarding, shitty minute here. Just hold on.

One thing I think is hilarious (A.K.A: Idiotic.) above all else, is people who hang around the OTF and act like they're the dons of discussion. Seraphim was one of those. Has anyone even seen him lately? Oh, sup Sorgo X. What? Nothing. Oh shit, I just realised that was in full view for everyone to see.

Though to be honest, people don't always want serious discussion, they want to be "part" of one to feel smart. It's pitiful.

-AC

^ Look at that. It's a f*cking beckoning call.

Your logic makes me giggle.

Of course.

Pretty much what I thought.

Funny how everyone has this opinion of me EXCEPT me, because in my almost three years here, I've said nothing of the kind.

You did in THIS post. You self proclaimed your own intelligence.

What the hell is wrong with you?

You're doing the same thing again. I'm guessing you're saying this because other people pick up on how obsessively arrogant you are, or ...?

"But you think you are!", no I don't. Half the time I honestly do not understand the praise I receive. I'm good at debates, so what? Everyone should be. Everyone should know what they're on about before they say it.

Oh, stop it. I don't feel like throwing up on my rug.

That doesn't mean I can't take pride in the fact that I am intelligent, I'd say the same for you or anybody on that note. You need to believe in yourself, because then if nobody else does, it matters nothing.

There's no problem in believing in yourself, AC, but you take it to a whole new level.

"I'M INTELLIGENT! THAT'S FACT! I ALWAYS STAY RELEVANT! THAT'S FACT!"

Come on, pal.

Do you honestly just want my company? Cos I'm here.

That's what I thought, AC.

I believe you would know how far your head would go into your ass, because it is there a lot.

No, not quite.

Don't you?

I do, being why I said I wear socks. Badabing?

You, Whirly etc. You get the point. Post your reply, because now this has gone into the realms of "Let me make AC the focus of my debate then tell him he's self-centered." as most people eventually do, and I'll PM you a reply.

-AC

Does it ever occur to you why you hear this a lot? Or does AC just bwock out the bad tings?! Awwwww.

In fact, this IS the OTF. So I'll just indulge your thread and reply here;

Originally posted by Sorgo X
What the f*ck? Are you serious? Stop saying you know a lot. You're so egotistical.

You knowing a lot is a fact?

You need to slow down. You're in no position to call anyone else out on their egotism or arrogance EVER. You have so much to learn, AC. Then again, admittedly, we all do.

Wait, hold on. Why is it being denied that I know a lot about certain things? What is it you're trying to debate? That I don't know a lot about anything? What's the deal here?

If you proved yourself to be as well versed on say, movies, as I am on...music for example, I would never begrudge you the right to admit that to yourself. Why would I? It'd be true. Not sure what exactly you are trying to prove. Self-belief is something everyone needs, mine is justified, I know this for a fact. Whether you agree is not of concern to me.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
No, no, no. It does not imply that you aren't smart. It implies you try too hard at looking like you're smart, regardless of how smart you actually may be. You're always trying to figure out people in debates and how they'll react or what they do. You fail (Especially with me) all the time, and it's so apparent you do it.

Oh the hypocrite arrives. I tell you that your post suggest you try too hard to look smart, and you say "Regardless what you read, I don't mean it that way.", and I can't disagree. Yet when it's me, you get to say that exact same thing with some kind of added fact? No, Soggy, you don't. I don't care about figuring "people" out. I try to figure out debates and reply accordingly. I don't fail, as much as you try hard to believe I do.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
You leave too many footprints in the dirt, AC.

I don't, really. Nothing to hide or be ashamed of. You making things up and having wishful thinking isn't my problem.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
No, you NEEDED to relax. It wasn't an assumption. You were going off about "Bastarding shit".

Yes, because it's the kind of thing both a friend and I say, in a homage to certain TV shows in Britain, certain people here are aware of the fact that me typing in an over the top way does not mean it reflects my mood.

Assumption. YOU do not get to decide my mood.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
It was my opinion that you needed to relax. The assumption is inexistent.

Non-existent, and yes, it was there. You assumed I needed to relax. I don't.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
You cannot measure you own intelligence, AC. A retard could repeat that they're intelligent a hundred times in a day and it just wouldn't make a difference. Not to mention, Intelligence is extremely subjective, AC.

A) You're right, a retard saying it doesn't make it true. Me saying it isn't what makes it true, it being true is what makes it true.

B) Precisely, and in the opinions of many people more credible than you, I am intelligent. I believe I am, I prove I am. This is not arrogance, there are millions more intelligent than I am, millions and millions, it's called self-belief. There are also people I am smarter than. I'm not gonna call myself equal to people lesser intellectually inclined than I, simply because I wish to be "polite".

Originally posted by Sorgo X
You're proving you don't know that by calling yourself intelligent.

Not really, I'm not gonna lose sleep if you disagree. Your opinion isn't something I value. I don't consider you intelligent, I think you're an idiot. Round world and all that.

Though if there's any topics you wish to intellectually discuss. Music forum, GDF, Philosophy forum. Pick your topic and let's get going. Yeah, that IS a challenge.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Conclusion? It was a metaphor.

You're missing the boat once again, friend.

Saying it many times a day won't make it true. Someone once said that.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
I have seen debating in there that isn't credible. I've seen bickering and such in that forum. The difference? They're bickering about politicians and homosexuality or another issue instead of debating about each other or a mistake in syntax and such.

Precisely. You believe it's better to debate about shit like each other and mistakes in syntax? That doesn't make you smart. It makes you anal.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Saying you can find a credible debater in a certain forum is prejudice, AC. That's it. That's like me saying you cannot find a credible debater in the Star Wars versus because they argue about Star Wars.

Not at all. If someone can formulate a decent debate on any subject, good. Doing it on more credible subjects than Star Wars is what gives them more credit in my eyes. Debating and knowing your stuff regarding world issues is much more intellectually worthwhile.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Do I have some obligation to listen to the sewage that spills from your finger, or ... ?

No, but you are here, so you must want to. Additional evidence suggesting you just need to reply to me.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
I'm more methodical when I insult someone. Although the forward approach can be well off sometimes.

I don't have insulting down to an art, I do it or I don't. I don't have the time to craft my insulting techniques, I concentrate on debating.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
You denied it in your last post, AC. You said you didn't insult anyone. You have many times when you've gotten a tad frustrated.

Denied? I said I don't insult anybody PERSONALLY. As in, personal insults. If I call someone an idiot, it's because they are acting like one in this case.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Bullshit. I've seen you do it before, AC. You cannot win every debate and you haven't. If you have not noticed, winning isn't getting the last post or talking. Most of the time, when you're on your last legs, you'll throw out some simple rhetoric or jab at the opposition to maintain a standpoint.

No, you factually haven't. I don't know what you THINK you've seen me do, but I am telling you for a fact that I do not do that. My word over me, as yours was over you.

I am one person who will agree that last post does not give the edge or the win, it's something people here don't understand. "Most of the time."? I don't get to that point, you're acting as if everyone I debate against ends up crushing me, and that's laughable. As I said, I didn't get the respect I have by being bad at debating. The only thing I'm guilty of is giving idiots too much of my time, as I'm doing now.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
No, but you try to pass it off by keeping clean at the edges and making sure you don't f*ck up.

Or maybe I just don't do it, and you try to pass it off as something you'd like it to be (That's what it is.).

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Do you actually read the bullshit you type? You're an ego MONSTER, brother!

I didn't make this debate about me, you did. I don't have nearly as much interest as discussing me or my mannerisms as you appear to. Flattering, but kinda needless.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
You think you're the greatest, and if someone throws it in your face, you shift responsibility and go off saying:

Not only is that showing your flaming egotistical ways again, It's showing how wrong you are because in this post and the last, you explained how good, how smart and how talented you were.

Huh? Me saying I'm smart does not equate to me thinking I am the "greatest" anything, and regardless of how OFTEN I am telling people I do not have these opinions of myself that people love to say I have, they ignore it. Rather than you saying "Well, fair enough.", you are insisting I believe things about myself. It's tragic.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
No, don't try to make it look like I'm forcing something on you. I'll shoot your sideways rhetoric down faster than the speed of light. Almost all the time in the past, the debate has turned into you insulting the opposition to cover loss. Simple. You just use persuasive wording and a good strategy to cloak it over.

Oh give it a rest. You are pinning opinions on me that I do not have of myself, fact. You are saying "YOU THINK...", and follow it with something I do not think at all. Or you claim I am something I do not believe I am. It's desperation, man. It's desperation.

I don't do anything to cover loss. If someone proves me wrong, I admit it. It rarely ever happens. Besides, if you think you're so good at doing it, where are you in the other forums debating me? OH, nowhere.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
It explains why almost *ALL* of our past debates, It's turned into us clashing instead of properly debating. This one, admittedly, was me calling you out but this is only because I'm an inch fed up with you trying to pull this.

Oh, so because you can't control your emotions, because you dislike me, you wish to point out how you don't like me...and why...and furthermore, throw opinions onto me that I do not even have of myself?

Fed up of me? Tough shit, stop reading my posts then.

-AC

Originally posted by Röland
Who the **** is Barker ?

Why the **** is Barker not banned yet for being so badass ?

31

You guys are writing to much.

Say what you need to say without posting 4 screens worth of text for god's sake. I don't want to scroll down for 15 minutes to read your entire post.

Losers. I hate your face, AC. Love your mouth, though.

Originally posted by Barker
13srug

Barker comes in from left field to make the diving catch! 13

Originally posted by Röland
Barker comes in from left field to make the diving catch! 13

Originally posted by Barker
Then sprints to home plate and hits 6 grand slams and runs for a touchdown. 31

You forgot to pole vault into the concession stand. 31

That comes after my come from behind 3 pointer at the buzzer. 31

😂

sly

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Now you're tooting your debating horn after complaining about me doing it? You're a hypocrite too? Oh boy, the plot THICKENS!

You got respect because you worked the floor, AC. It's not hard. Anyone who has an ounce of brain matter can see through your shit.

I'm not so much as tooting it as saying "Yes, I can do it well.". At least I have backing for that. You do it based on what? Anal, repetitive, retentive arguments that occur over wording, in the OTF.

Funny, because I'm respected by some of the most respected people here, liked or not liked. You or a few others not liking me is of no concern to me. Hell, being RESPECTED doesn't matter to me, but seeing as we're discussing it, I bring it up.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Yeah, you're a decent debater but the problem starts when you begin insulting the opposition. Then, the opposition gets caught up with that. Then, you work on it and slowly break the opposition down by hitting them at home. It's simple. It's a popular tactic used in debating, actually.

Here's how it goes; I'm usually pretty on point with my debates, and then when I say someone is being an idiot, the opposition, on the back foot, choose to turn the focus of the debate away from their failing argument, and onto the fact that I called them an idiot. It's the opposition's fault and lifering, to focus on me calling them that. Not mine, nobody else's but their own.

It's not my problem.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
In a few of our debates, I've had to ask you several times to stop insulting me and actually stay ON topic. Do you not even consciously realize what you're pulling? Have you done it so much, it's converted into protocol? Seriously.

You get insulted easily. You're a very sensitive person. I've said the exact same to other GDFers and it's been shrugged of, as people realise that EVERYONE does it now and then. It's not meant with any venom.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
The difference was, that was an assumption. (Bringing up past debates again, I see. I *DID* call you out on this, you know. Rofl) You assumed that I was using a word to look intelligent. That scenario is so unparalleled to this one. In this scenario, it is CLEAR what you've been trying to pull. Like I said, I've told you before to stop and stick to the debate.

CLEAR to who? You? So what? It was CLEAR to me that you were trying to look smart, I was wrong. It's CLEAR to you that I do what I do, but you are also wrong. Accept this, move on.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Your ego is sickening! Most of our debates are kicked off by you, AC. You come in and hold as opposition and of course I debate you. If you disagree with me, I'm not going to stand by and not have my say.

Indeed, have your say, you are entitled, but don't act like I am forcing you to. I am not in control of your actions.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Yes, AC. Everyone loves you and holds you in such high regard. That's why they challenge you. Even though you've done most of the challenging.

No, not everyone loves me, not everyone holds ME in high regard. There have been people here who say they think I have a deplorable attitude, but won't deny my intelligence or what have you. It's called respect.

There were times that I'm sure Schecter and I could have said less than favourable things about each other, but there was never a time when, on topic, I would deny that he debates well, and I'm sure the same can be said for him. We both had our off topic spats, as does everyone, but I admit that's a flaw. You seem to think this is a basis of all my debates, and it isn't.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
^ Look at that. It's a f*cking beckoning call.

Your logic makes me giggle.

I made a "beckoning call", you admittedly came running, and somehow I'm in the wrong?

Why am I blamed because you can't stop responding to anything I say?

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Pretty much what I thought.

Sarcasm, to the point of obvious.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
You did in THIS post. You self proclaimed your own intelligence.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Hahaha, this is what I DO get laughter out of. When people get so pissed that they end up trying to make me see the error of my ways, or figure me out, or change the way I am.

It's REALLY funny.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
You're doing the same thing again. I'm guessing you're saying this because other people pick up on how obsessively arrogant you are, or ...?

So let's get this out; What are you trying to achieve with this gigantic tirade of "Let me list everything I dislike about AC, or think he does."? Honestly I want to know. CIVIL question, because others have done it.

If you and others dislike me, or anything about me, accepted. I dislike your way of posting, but that's your right. What do you hope to achieve?

Here's the ultimate solution: If people stopped having greater opinion, or proposed perception, of me than I have of myself, then there would not be such a backlash. If you realised I don't think I'm half as great as you and others believe that I believe I am, we would not be in this discussion.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Oh, stop it. I don't feel like throwing up on my rug.

Oh, this is getting dumb now.

You say I'm way too arrogant, to the point of saying I have opinions of myself that I don't have. Then when I give you the truth, you act like it's too self-righteous.

You're just here for my company, aren't you? We can have chats in PM. It doesn't need to be this. What do you like? Music? Movies? Ice cream?

Originally posted by Sorgo X
There's no problem in believing in yourself, AC, but you take it to a whole new level.

"I'M INTELLIGENT! THAT'S FACT! I ALWAYS STAY RELEVANT! THAT'S FACT!"

Come on, pal.

What's the problem? You don't like the level of self-belief I have, so you over-exaggerate your examples and then claim them as fact? That doesn't work. Deal with it, put me on ignore if I bother you that much. You won't, though, cos you feel compelled. Therefore, you have no right to complain about me.

Originally posted by Sorgo X
Does it ever occur to you why you hear this a lot? Or does AC just bwock out the bad tings?! Awwwww.

I hear it a lot because people dislike my way of posting, but the way they justify it is ALWAYS the same. Over-exaggerated examples of things I've either said with different intent, or NEVER said, and then acting like that is what I actually do.

Newsflash: I do not care about anybody's opinion of me. Good or bad, and if this burns you, then I'm not sorry. Deal.

You are not special to me.

-AC