Trickster I didnt want you to vote on this because youre the one who said it. I want to know everyone else opinion. By the way a speed blitz aint going to take vision, hercules, wonderman, sersi, hulk out of the fight, he would need a couple of speed blitz and he aint going to have time for that since ion wonderman was stated to have super speed of his own, along with vision, and sersi.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
It will all come down to Sersi.
It will all come down to the team beating the hell out of him. Its a couple of people on this team that is just about as strong as he is and almost as durable. Hulk is almost everything doomsday is and can almost take as much punishment as doomsday. I know that superman could beat hulk but hulk alone could give superman a fight.
With that said the rest is just over doing it. This is a fight that superman will lose everytime.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
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You do see that I put ALMOST everything doomsday is. Hulk is just as strong (could be stronger) than doomsday. Hulk is just as durable but the thing that doomsday have over him is speed. Damn in his 1st appearance, maxima beat the hell out of him until the explosion that knocked her out.
Hulk can last against superman but alone he will fall. The thing about this is that he have numerous of other power houses backing him up that have a good amount of speed themselves and that have faced opponents as fast or just as fast as superman.
Vision stalemated silver surfer. Hulk, I dont even have to bring up who he fight or ion wonderman. Theyre all power houses that could take what superman dish out and come back for more and also land powerful blows of there own. The thing that really change this fight is sersi but to me I dont even think that they need her.
don't use crossovers. Superman beat Hulk and Thor in crossovers. It's really up to Sersi. Not only is Superman stronger than the Hulk, but one punch at superman's speed before he's enrafed will knock him out, likewise to all his other oppenents. Sersi, is the one and only exeption. It's likely big blue wins
Originally posted by Redatom65
don't use crossovers. Superman beat Hulk and Thor in crossovers. It's really up to Sersi. Not only is Superman stronger than the Hulk, but one punch at superman's speed before he's enrafed will knock him out, likewise to all his other oppenents. Sersi, is the one and only exeption. It's likely big blue wins
I agree with you that superman is strong than a calm hulk but an enraged hulk>>superman strength. Do you know what durability means, Superman aint one punching no hulk. Why didnt he one punch despero when despero was owning the jla and jsa by himself. Why didnt he one punch solomon grundy when solomon grundy was taking out the entire jla. Why didnt he one punch wonderwoman when she broke his ribs. Why didnt he one punch doomsday. Why dont he ever one punch darkseid because they have durability of there own. Answer this for me, if superman was to just stand still and let thor (not with his hammer but just strength) punch him in the face as hard as he can move at light speed is superman going to get koed, I dont think so, what about you.
80% of the people on that list is nigh invulnerable. 50% of the people on that list have super speed of there own. They can just let hulk fight superman while vision and wonderman speed blitz superman in the back of the head, do you think that superman would be koed. Vision and wonderman are in the 100 ton range along with herc, do you think that they would one punch superman. How would superman get past visions intagibility unless he have a new power that I dont know about.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree with you that superman is strong than a calm hulk but an enraged hulk>>superman strength. Do you know what durability means, Superman aint one punching no hulk. Why didnt he one punch despero when despero was owning the jla and jsa by himself. Why didnt he one punch solomon grundy when solomon grundy was taking out the entire jla. Why didnt he one punch wonderwoman when she broke his ribs. Why didnt he one punch doomsday. Why dont he ever one punch darkseid because they have durability of there own. Answer this for me, if superman was to just stand still and let thor (not with his hammer but just strength) punch him in the face as hard as he can move at light speed is superman going to get koed, I dont think so, what about you.80% of the people on that list is nigh invulnerable. 50% of the people on that list have super speed of there own. They can just let hulk fight superman while vision and wonderman speed blitz superman in the back of the head, do you think that superman would be koed. Vision and wonderman are in the 100 ton range along with herc, do you think that they would one punch superman. How would superman get past visions intagibility unless he have a new power that I dont know about.
how strong do you think an enraged Hulk is? how many tons can he lift?
Originally posted by carver9
I agree with you that superman is strong than a calm hulk but an enraged hulk>>superman strength. Do you know what durability means, Superman aint one punching no hulk. Why didnt he one punch despero when despero was owning the jla and jsa by himself. Why didnt he one punch solomon grundy when solomon grundy was taking out the entire jla. Why didnt he one punch wonderwoman when she broke his ribs. Why didnt he one punch doomsday. Why dont he ever one punch darkseid because they have durability of there own. Answer this for me, if superman was to just stand still and let thor (not with his hammer but just strength) punch him in the face as hard as he can move at light speed is superman going to get koed, I dont think so, what about you.80% of the people on that list is nigh invulnerable. 50% of the people on that list have super speed of there own. They can just let hulk fight superman while vision and wonderman speed blitz superman in the back of the head, do you think that superman would be koed. Vision and wonderman are in the 100 ton range along with herc, do you think that they would one punch superman. How would superman get past visions intagibility unless he have a new power that I dont know about.
First off, almost anyone who can fight Supes and do decently, can probably beat the hulk.
2nd, Grundy's abilities vary in each incarnation. 3rd, DD could solo the field as well.
DARKSEID!?! shocklaugh You could make an Avengers/JLA combo with Sentry, Supes, Sersi, Thor and all the other heavy hitters, and they still wouldn't beat Darkseid.
Thor cannot one punch Supes without the hammer. Supes is not a class 100, nor a class 1000, or even a class 10000. He's at least a class 1M. Vision has been hurt by attacks before, and intangibility does not equal invulnerable. Nobody on your avengers squad can counter Superman's speed advantage. even Sersi can't affect him due to his bio-field.
FTL speed + >class1M strength + all of his other powers +insanely fast thought processes and reaction speed= Superman solos the field.
Originally posted by masterbruce
how strong do you think an enraged Hulk is? how many tons can he lift?
Its hard to say how strong he is. Isnt his strength unlimited depending on his rage? If so, its possible he could actually double, triple, or even quadriple Supermans strength.
Anyways, the team wins everytime. Superman isnt one shotting any of those guys except for maybe Sersi.