God (YHWH) has fans: Allah, Muhammed, Muslims

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Exactly. The dumbass doesnt understand that he's only arguing linguistics and has no point.

JIA, here's an example: "Caballo" is the Spanish word for horse. Does that mean that caballos and horses are two completely different animals?? No, they're just [B]two different words for the exact same thing. [/B]

For the umpteenth time plus one, I am not discussing semantics or linguistics. I--am--saying--that--the--God--of--the--Bible--and--Allah--cannot--possibly--be--the--same--person--BECAUSE (sorry if the caps comes off offensive, I did it solely for empahsis--God (YHWH)--states--in--His--Word--that--He--has--a--Son--but--Allah--in--the--Qu'ran--denies--having--a--son. For--THIS--reason (and this has nothing to do with Allah meaning god in Arabic, this is irrelevant because I am not talking about that)--the--God--of--the--Bible--and--Allah--cannot--be--the--same--person.

Did you get this?

They--cannot--be--the--same--because--one--has--a--Son (the God of the Bible)--and--the--other--denies--having--a--son (Allah denies having a son). This--is--a--major--contradiction--so--they--cannot--be--the--same--person.

Do you finally understand my point?

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Originally posted by Devil King
Well, way to fail at life. Loser.

Some of the most fundamentalist, aggresive Christians I've known have never even read their holy book all the way through. If JIA has actually taken the time to read his holy book, I at least give him more credit then I give them.

JIA, you won't deny that the Koran has Allah explicitly say that he is the God of Abraham?

JIA, the Old Testament does not mention Jesus Christ, it simply stated that there would be a savior to God's people.

That could be anyone, Jesus Christ was not present until the New Testament where he is then said to be savior.

If God is the Father, and he exists, then yes he has a son...all of us. God cannot be a Father to anyone, if Jesus is his one and only son...

According to your mythology, God created us all, and birthed us all...therefore we are all his sons and daughters, regardless of whether or not you agree so. IT can logically be no other way.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
IT can logically be no other way.

Sure it can. By calling yourselves sheep and then literally acting that way for 2000 years.

And before Feceman comes into the thread and says that the self-describing noun of "sheep" is old hat and easily dimissed, I give you JesusIsAlive as an example. And you could argue that there aren't "real" christians out there that act exactly as this sock persona acts, but you'd be wrong. (and it's these people with whom I'm arguing, not the sock himself)

I will always defer to a knowledgable christian, capable of sound critical thinking, as the best example of christians. But, and I direct this soley at JIA, your own bretheren call you an idiot. So, not only do you want to pretend you have the market cornered on truth, but you want to act like you have the market conered with your own brand of truth.

You have serious self confidence issues. (which should be evident in the fact that you are a sock blathering on about things the man behind the keyboard likely dismisses or takes so seriously he has to be three different people to get one point across) This is exactly what i have said of your brand of christian in the past. You want to be so secure in your version of lemming behavior that you want everyone else to act and believe in the same manner, simply to reassure yourself. No christian that truely believes in his or her heart that they're right would act as you do. You're just too affraid to be the first lemming off the cliff, because you're afraid none of the others will follow you after they witness your flailing body smash on the rocks below. Grow up, grow a pair and then start preaching. On top of that, you want to cite spreading the truth as your basis for operation, when clearly you don't realize you aren't changing any hearts, minds or lives by preaching on the internet. So, this sock fails at life. Try another, and try one that practices what he preaches.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
For the umpteenth time plus one, I am not discussing semantics or linguistics. I--am--saying--that--the--God--of--the--Bible--and--Allah--cannot--possibly--be--the--same--person--[b]BECAUSE (sorry if the caps comes off offensive, I did it solely for empahsis--God (YHWH)--states--in--His--Word--that--He--has--a--Son--but--Allah--in--the--Qu'ran--denies--having--a--son. For--THIS--reason (and this has nothing to do with Allah meaning god in Arabic, this is irrelevant because I am not talking about that)--the--God--of--the--Bible--and--Allah--cannot--be--the--same--person.

Did you get this?

They--cannot--be--the--same--because--one--has--a--Son (the God of the Bible)--and--the--other--denies--having--a--son (Allah denies having a son). This--is--a--major--contradiction--so--they--cannot--be--the--same--person.

Do you finally understand my point? [/B]

Yeah I understand your point, but youre wrong.

I know that God/Allah says in the Bible that Jesus is his son, and God/Allah says in the Koran that this isnt the case; Jesus was just a man, a great Prophet, but still human.

The Koran maintains that Jesus being God's son was a mistake or some kind of mistranslations of the Christians.

That one thing aside, the Koran states that God breathed life into Adam just like in the Bible. It says that he is the same God of Abraham, David, Moses and so on. But you dont know that, because you havent read the Koran.

You just dont like the fact that Christianity and Islam are related. You wanna seperate the two as much as possible (probably for some personal reason) and the base of your whole "argument" is over a word: Allah.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It is impossible for the God of the Bible (YHWH) and Allah to be the same person. It is revealed throughout the Bible (in a number of books) that God has a Son. But according to the Qu'ran Allah denies having a son. You know why? Because the God of the Bible and Allah are not the same person.

🤪 So you think God is a person?

Originally posted by Devil King
Then copy and paste the verse where it mentions the person of Jesus of Nazareth, not the prophecy he claims to have fulfilled. (which that verse does not address) "We", "Ours" and "Ours" isn't mentioning anybody by name, or even figuratively. It doesn't address it at all! Taken literally, God is talking about himself. The point with which you want to take exception is the dismissable truth that Jesus was god, or that god was talking about Jesus. If god is as all-knowing as you want to make him out to be, then surely he wouldn't have said something that wasn't so refutable and ambigious!

Being a sock and a troll are two different things. Hes a sock that's trolling.

God is Father, Son, Holy Spirit (this is Who God is); therefore, Jesus Christ is included.

LMAO, JIA i think ur familiar with jesus's last words on the cross

"ELLOIH ELLOIH LAMA SABAKTAGIN"

oh god oh god why hast thou forsaken me.

elloih{hebrew}= ALLAH{arabic}

fact is muslims believe that the god yahweh/jehovah is the same as allah. they believe that the christians changed his teachings to create a trinity and made christ one with him{tried to} and theres proof of that as christ himself never claimed to be god or the son o god. and seeing as hardly a MINIATURE fraction of the bible is the red letter bible{actual recollections of the teachings of christ} and almost all the wrest of the new testament is revelation on SAINTS, like john etc. and they introduced the idea of him being god.

{btw ur idea of god, father/son/holy spirit is very insulting to what should be an omnipotent being, mere concepts like sex, fatherhood, or having to sacrifice sumthing to save other things should not confine an omnipotent being}

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
JIA, the Old Testament does not mention Jesus Christ, it simply stated that there would be a savior to God's people.

That could be anyone, Jesus Christ was not present until the New Testament where he is then said to be savior.

If God is the Father, and he exists, then yes he has a son...all of us. God cannot be a Father to anyone, if Jesus is his one and only son...

According to your mythology, God created us all, and birthed us all...therefore we are all his sons and daughters, regardless of whether or not you agree so. IT can logically be no other way.

The Old Testament mentions Jesus Christ a number of times (but not as Jesus, but as He was before He became flesh. He was referred to as the Son, Word, YHWH, Elohim, I AM, Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace, Son of Man, etc.

John 8:43-44
Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do.

Jesus Christ called those Jews that He spoke to children of the devil. (This is one example of what I meant when I said that God is the one making the distinctions not me Goddess Kali). So, no we are not all God's children, but we are all God's creation (there is a difference).

John 1:12-13
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Based on this Scripture it is clear that being a child of God is a choice, not something that we are by default since we are God's creation. We are all God's creation, but we are not all God's children.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
🤪 So you think God is a person?

Yes, God is a Person. This is another contradiction between the God of the Bible and Allah. Based on the Bible Allah is not a person but a false god. There is only one, true God seated on the throne in Heaven, His Name is YHWH. But YHWH is the triune God Who is wonderfully comprised of Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

😄

Originally posted by leonheartmm
LMAO, JIA i think ur familiar with jesus's last words on the cross

"ELLOIH ELLOIH LAMA SABAKTAGIN"

oh god oh god why hast thou forsaken me.

elloih{hebrew}= ALLAH{arabic}

fact is muslims believe that the god yahweh/jehovah is the same as allah. they believe that the christians changed his teachings to create a trinity and made christ one with him{tried to} and theres proof of that as christ himself never claimed to be god or the son o god. and seeing as hardly a MINIATURE fraction of the bible is the red letter bible{actual recollections of the teachings of christ} and almost all the wrest of the new testament is revelation on SAINTS, like john etc. and they introduced the idea of him being god.

{btw ur idea of god, father/son/holy spirit is very insulting to what should be an omnipotent being, mere concepts like sex, fatherhood, or having to sacrifice sumthing to save other things should not confine an omnipotent being}

jesus:"the father is greater than i!" funny thing to say if ur an aspect of god

Based on the Bible Allah is a false god? The bible doesn't mention him.

Oh wait, it does. Everytime the word "God" springs up, it's "Allah" in Arabic.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Based on the Bible Allah is a false god? The bible doesn't mention him.

Oh wait, it does. Everytime the word "God" springs up, it's "Allah" in Arabic.

Someone else said it finally

Originally posted by King Kandy
Based on the Bible Allah is a false god? The bible doesn't mention him.

Oh wait, it does. Everytime the word "God" springs up, it's "Allah" in Arabic.

I am still waiting (probably until Hell freezes over) for you to explain how the God of the Bible (Who has a Son) could possibly be the same person mentioned in the Qu'ran as Allah (who flat out denies having a son). You have yet to reconcile this one glaring contradiction. Telling me that they are the same person because Allah means god in Arabic does not address the unmistakable discrepancy that God has a Son but Allah denies this fact. I honestly do not believe that you are capable of supporting your claim that YHWH and Allah are the same person. Perhaps this is why you persist in saying that since Allah means god in Arabic that it automatically must refer to the God of the Bible which cannot possibly be true based on my incontrovertible defense to that assertion.

Suppose I create a new username in another language that means or corresponds to "JesusIsAlive," but then I inform everyone on this forum that I am still JesusIsAlive, I just have a different name. But I affirm to you all that my new username means JesusIsAlive in this other language and that me and JesusIsAlive is one and the same person. Now here is the kicker: suppose I start posting things that contradict what you know about me. For example, what if I starting posting things like, "Jesus is dead", or that "God (YHWH) does not exist", or that "there are many ways to God", or that "Jesus never existed", or that "the Bible is not true," what would you began to think? You would start to think that either I am lying, joking, that I have changed my mind about what I previously believed, that I am schizo--or that I am not truly JesusIsAlive. Is Allah lying about not having a son, joking, has he changed his mind about what he previously believed, is he schizo--or is Allah not truly the God of the Bible? I believe that Allah is not truly the God of the Bible. Allah is supposedly god so I do not believe that he would lie about not having a son. Allah is never described as being a "joking" deity in the Qu'ran (far from having any emotion actually). Allah has no reason to change his mind about having a son, and there is no reason to believe that Allah is schizo. So that only leaves one alternative to explain why Allah denies having a son (if he and the God of the Bible are the same person): Allah is not truly the God of the Bible, he is--that's right, a false god. This is the most plausible explanation for the contradiction.

Please re-read this post before responding because I do not think that you understand what the issue under discussion is. You think that I am arguing semantics and linguistics and I am not. I am saying that if YHWH and Allah are the same person then they should both have a son but they do not. And since they do not this is a glaring contradiction, and this refutes the claim that they are the same person.

Can you see this King Kandy or are you going to write me another post that fails to address this conspicuous contradiction? The whole YHWH = Allah premise is not tenable because YHWH has a Son (is this registering with you?) YHWH has a Son, Allah does not so how can they be the same person?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The Old Testament mentions Jesus Christ a number of times (but not as Jesus, but as He was before He became flesh. He was referred to as the Son, Word, YHWH, Elohim, I AM, Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace, Son of Man, etc.

The Old Testament mentions God, JIA..God..not Jesus.

Jesus is not mentioned, Christ is not mentioned, the Son is not mentioned until the New Testament.

The Jews initially rejected Christ, because he did not fit the discription of the Savior that God would originally send them. They expected a warrior who would free them from the oppression of Rome, not a humble, loving, lamb like Jesus.

Jesus Christ is not mentioned in the Old Testament...please give me one reference where JESUS CHRIST is actually mentioned, that name, that identity, and I will apologize and call you correct.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[[B]John 8:43-44
Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do.

That's a cop out. People are not either good or evil, innocent or guilty, Godly or Demonic. The Human Race, personality, mentality, and spirit is FAR more complicated than that.

You ignore the greys, and divide everything into black and white. Like I stated before, that is dangerous and ignorant thinking, and the worst part is that you know this.

You aren't sincerely ignorant, JIA, you are intentionally ignorant. Why ?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[Jesus Christ called those Jews that He spoke to [B]children of the devil. (This is one example of what I meant when I said that God is the one making the distinctions not me Goddess Kali). So, no we are not all God's children, but we are all God's creation (there is a difference). [/B]

Jesusisalive, you are making the distinction, not God. The Bible is not proven to be the word of God, you just beleive it to be so. You take pieces of the Bible you like, and ignore the rest.

Tell me JIA...do you feel women should be allowed to speak in the Church ? Because the Bible states Women should never speak in Church..i made a thread about this earlier.

Do you beleive that homosexuals should be killed, because they are gay ? The Bible clearly states that homosexuality between men is a sin punishable by death.

So should Gays be executed here, like they are in Iraq and other Islamic nations ?

Your Bible seems to have no problem with that....

Are you 100% loyal to the Bible, or do you nitpick and select like EVERY single Christian does ? 😬

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[[COLOR=darkblue]Based on this Scripture it is clear that being a child of God is a choice, not something that we are by default since we are God's creation. We are all God's [b]creation, but we are not all God's children. [/B]

I understand your point. God can disown one as his child, if the person chooses to disobey or disbeleive, as a Conservative Christian parent may disown a son or daughter for being Gay.

What a kind, loving, and understanding God you have 👇

What do you have to say to these JIA?

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/Allah/BibAllah.html

http://www.answering-christianity.com/allah.htm

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
The Old Testament mentions God, JIA..[b]God..not Jesus.

Jesus is not mentioned, Christ is not mentioned, the Son is not mentioned until the New Testament.

The Jews initially rejected Christ, because he did not fit the discription of the Savior that God would originally send them. They expected a warrior who would free them from the oppression of Rome, not a humble, loving, lamb like Jesus.

Jesus Christ is not mentioned in the Old Testament...please give me one reference where JESUS CHRIST is actually mentioned, that name, that identity, and I will apologize and call you correct.

That's a cop out. People are not either good or evil, innocent or guilty, Godly or Demonic. The Human Race, personality, mentality, and spirit is FAR more complicated than that.

You ignore the greys, and divide everything into black and white. Like I stated before, that is dangerous and ignorant thinking, and the worst part is that you know this.

You aren't sincerely ignorant, JIA, you are intentionally ignorant. Why ?

Jesusisalive, you are making the distinction, not God. The Bible is not proven to be the word of God, you just believe it to be so. You take pieces of the Bible you like, and ignore the rest.

Tell me JIA...do you feel women should be allowed to speak in the Church ? Because the Bible states Women should never speak in Church..i made a thread about this earlier.

Do you believe that homosexuals should be killed, because they are gay ? The Bible clearly states that homosexuality between men is a sin punishable by death.

So should Gays be executed here, like they are in Iraq and other Islamic nations ?

Your Bible seems to have no problem with that....

Are you 100% loyal to the Bible, or do you nitpick and select like EVERY single Christian does ? 😬

I understand your point. God can disown one as his child, if the person chooses to disobey or disbeleive, as a Conservative Christian parent may disown a son or daughter for being Gay.

What a kind, loving, and understanding God you have 👇 [/B]

The Old Testament mentions God, JIA..God..not Jesus.

You do not truly understand. Jesus is God, has always been God, and will always be God. God is not one Person, God is triune, has always been triune, and will always be triune.

Main Entry: triune
Function: adjective
: three in one : a : of or relating to the Trinity [the triune God] b : consisting of three parts, members, or aspects

God is Father, Son, Holy Spirit. This is Who God is.

Jesus is not mentioned, Christ is not mentioned, the Son is not mentioned until the New Testament.

Christ is mentioned all throughout the Old Testament in His pre-incarnate form. Jesus is one with the Father, but when He became flesh He was given an earthly Name and physical body separate and distinct from the Father. But Jesus has always existed (even before the Old Testament was written).

The Jews initially rejected Christ, because he did not fit the discription of the Savior that God would originally send them. They expected a warrior who would free them from the oppression of Rome, not a humble, loving, lamb like Jesus.

True, but what does this have to do with our discussion brother? 😄

Jesus Christ is not mentioned in the Old Testament...please give me one reference where JESUS CHRIST is actually mentioned, that name, that identity, and I will apologize and call you correct.

You are expecting me to show you the Name Jesus Christ and that Name was not Jesus Name until He became flesh. Jesus Christ or Jesus the Christ (Christ means Anointed One) is Jesus' earthly Name it is not His pre-incarnate Name. Jesus' Pre-incarnate Name was synonymous with the Father's Name (i.e. YHWH).

That's a cop out. People are not either good or evil, innocent or guilty, Godly or Demonic. The Human Race, personality, mentality, and spirit is FAR more complicated than that.

That is your opinion. I believe that from a "classification" standpoint people are either "righteous," or "unrighteous," "saved," or "unsaved." This is what the Bible teaches.

You ignore the greys, and divide everything into black and white. Like I stated before, that is dangerous and ignorant thinking, and the worst part is that you know this.

But as I have previously stated I am not the one doing the dividing, God is, (Although I am the one that keeps getting blamed for it).

You aren't sincerely ignorant, JIA, you are intentionally ignorant. Why ?

That is your opinion. I do not personally believe that I am ignorant (sincerely or intentionally).

Jesusisalive, you are making the distinction, not God. The Bible is not proven to be the word of God, you just believe it to be so. You take pieces of the Bible you like, and ignore the rest.

Let me show you an example of God making the distinction but first I will show you an example of Moses making this distinction in the Old Testament. It is not a "saved,' or "unsaved" distinction but it is apropos to this discussion and illustrates that it is a Biblical thing.

Exodus 32:26
then Moses stood in the entrance of the camp, and [B]said, “Whoever is on the LORD’s side—come to me!” And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together to him.[/B]

Now, I will show you another example of God (i.e. Jesus Christ) making the distinction in the New Testament.

Matthew 25:31-46
31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’
41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
44 “Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

See, Goddess Kali? I am not the one making the distinction God is.

Tell me JIA...do you feel women should be allowed to speak in the Church ? Because the Bible states Women should never speak in Church..i made a thread about this earlier.

What does this have to do with our discussion? Are you trying to find something to convict me of? Well, anyhoo, I will respond to this off base question out in left field.

I believe that the Bible does not forbid women from speaking in church. At the time that Paul wrote those verses there were clear cultural guidelines for why things were that way then. But that is not the case now. But this is my opinion. I have not studied those verses sufficiently in depth to make a truly academic response.

Do you believe that homosexuals should be killed, because they are gay ? The Bible clearly states that homosexuality between men is a sin punishable by death.

Yes, homosexuality was punishable by death under the Law of Moses. But we do not live under that Law anymore. We live under the Law of Love introduced by Jesus Christ. The Law of Moses preceded the age or dispensation of grace ushered in through Jesus Christ.

So should Gays be executed here, like they are in Iraq and other Islamic nations ?

No, homosexuals and lesbians should not be executed because they would go to Hell. Second, homosexuals and lesbians should not be executed because God loves them and wants to deliver them from their sinful condition. God does not call the homosexual lifestyle/practice an innate thing, He calls it an abomination. So, no God loves the homosexual but hates their sin.

Your Bible seems to have no problem with that....

Absolutely, because God is righteous, holy, and sinless, of course He hates sin and all manner of evil.

Are you 100% loyal to the Bible, or do you nitpick and select like EVERY single Christian does ? 😬

Honestly, I think that I nitpick.

🙁

I understand your point. God can disown one as his child, if the person chooses to disobey or disbeleive, as a Conservative Christian parent may disown a son or daughter for being Gay.

God is not disowning anyone. If you are not saved then you were never His child to begin with.

What a kind, loving, and understanding God you have 👇

God is very understanding it is other people who lack understanding. God has gone out of His way to show His love for you and the rest of the world. Do you think that God giving up His Son to die and be tortured by sinful men, and be treated with absolute contempt was easy for Him to do? Would you give your son (hypothetically speaking) up to be tortured by and to die for a bunch of wicked, sinful, ungrateful, unappreciative, dishonoring, disrespectful, abominable, unthankful, people? Would you let your worst enemies have an unrestrained field day with your daughter? You think that God just sat back and enjoyed what His Son went through? HE PERMITTED HIS SON TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT FOR YOU (and the rest of the world)[sorry for the caps, there for emphasis] , and yes it hurt God to subject His Son to all of that. But He loved you so much that He wouldn't even spare His own Son to save you from Hell.

🙁

Originally posted by lord xyz
What do you have to say to these JIA?

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/Allah/BibAllah.html

http://www.answering-christianity.com/allah.htm

My response to you is the same as my response to King Kandy. Are you read lord xyz? Prepare yourself like a man (just kidding) 😄

Originally posted by King Kandy
Based on the Bible Allah is a false god? The bible doesn't mention him.

Oh wait, it does. Everytime the word "God" springs up, it's "Allah" in Arabic.

I am still waiting (probably until Hell freezes over) for you to explain how the God of the Bible (Who has a Son) could possibly be the same person mentioned in the Qu'ran as Allah (who flat out denies having a son). You have yet to reconcile this one glaring contradiction. Telling me that they are the same person because Allah means god in Arabic does not address the unmistakable discrepancy that God has a Son but Allah denies this fact. I honestly do not believe that you are capable of supporting your claim that YHWH and Allah are the same person. Perhaps this is why you persist in saying that since Allah means god in Arabic that it automatically must refer to the God of the Bible which cannot possibly be true based on my incontrovertible defense to that assertion.

Suppose I create a new username in another language that means or corresponds to "JesusIsAlive," but then I inform everyone on this forum that I am still JesusIsAlive, I just have a different name. But I affirm to you all that my new username means JesusIsAlive in this other language and that me and JesusIsAlive is one and the same person. Now here is the kicker: suppose I start posting things that contradict what you know about me. For example, what if I starting posting things like, "Jesus is dead", or that "God (YHWH) does not exist", or that "there are many ways to God", or that "Jesus never existed", or that "the Bible is not true," what would you began to think? You would start to think that either I am lying, joking, that I have changed my mind about what I previously believed, that I am schizo--or that I am not truly JesusIsAlive. Is Allah lying about not having a son, joking, has he changed his mind about what he previously believed, is he schizo--or is Allah not truly the God of the Bible? I believe that Allah is not truly the God of the Bible. Allah is supposedly god so I do not believe that he would lie about not having a son. Allah is never described as being a "joking" deity in the Qu'ran (far from having any emotion actually). Allah has no reason to change his mind about having a son, and there is no reason to believe that Allah is schizo. So that only leaves one alternative to explain why Allah denies having a son (if he and the God of the Bible are the same person): Allah is not truly the God of the Bible, he is--that's right, a false god. This is the most plausible explanation for the contradiction.

Please re-read this post before responding because I do not think that you understand what the issue under discussion is. You think that I am arguing semantics and linguistics and I am not. I am saying that if YHWH and Allah are the same person then they should both have a son but they do not. And since they do not this is a glaring contradiction, and this refutes the claim that they are the same person.

Can you see this King Kandy or are you going to write me another post that fails to address this conspicuous contradiction? The whole YHWH = Allah premise is not tenable because YHWH has a Son (is this registering with you?) YHWH has a Son, Allah does not so how can they be the same person?