Originally posted by lord xyz
No. Your statement is that the God isn't Allah. What you meant was, the God of the Bible and the God of the Quran are not the same. This however, is also wrong because they are both the God of Abraham. They might have different opinions on God, but it is still the same God.
No, my statement is that God is not Allah BECAUSE God has a Son but Allah denies having a son.
(sorry for the caps, it was for emphasis only).
Originally posted by Quiero MotaYeah I know. Pretty good in my opinion. But lately, he's been making it more obvious with his more ridiculous claims. As for his knowledge on the Bible, I think he has one with him to read, or an online Bible with a search button.
To everyone else: Captian, Urizen, Shaky, lord xyz.If this guy really is a sock, then he's damn good at his little character-persona. He sure as hell knows a lot about the Bible (which is good for his sake) because most socks dont adhere to their front. He's a Jesus Freak sock whos actually knowledgable on the subject he bases his chracter on.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I never said that I converted anyone.I have reached many people in terms of sowing God's Word into their heart. For example, you may not agree with what I say but you cannot deny that you were exposed to the Truth of God's Word. So it is the exposure to the Word that I have succeeded at (telling thousands of people about God's love for them) this is what Jesus commands His church to do. Just tell them, then let that Word work on their heart. There are many people who have heard the Word for years before converting.
Using god's word as a tool for your delusions of grandure is another example of your blantant trolling and socking. The converse of your claim is that you, too, have been exposed to the disingenuous nature of the bible and your religion. So, how successful is your quest in that respect? That's a lot of talking for not a single mind to have been changed.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
To everyone else: Captian, Urizen, Shaky, lord xyz.If this guy really is a sock, then he's damn good at his little character-persona. He sure as hell knows a lot about the Bible (which is good for his sake) because most socks dont adhere to their front. He's a Jesus Freak sock whos actually knowledgable on the subject he bases his chracter on.
Well, then I shall refer to him as a professional sock from now on.
Originally posted by lord xyz
Show me wher Allah denies having a son. And stop using Allah to describe the Muslim God.
According to Muslims the angel Gabriel communicated the Qur'an verbatim to Mohammed directly from Allah. So since the Qu'ran is the word of Allah then whatever it states is Allah speaking.
Surah 4:171 O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.
Surah 6:101 The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child, when there is for Him no consort, when He created all things and is Aware of all things ?
Surah 18:4,5 And to warn those who say: Allah hath chosen a son, (A thing) whereof they have no knowledge, nor (had) their fathers, Dreadful is the word that cometh out of their mouths. They speak naught but a lie.
Surah 23:91 Allah hath not chosen any son, nor is there any god along with Him; else would each god have assuredly championed that which he created, and some of them would assuredly have overcome others. Glorified be Allah above all that they allege.
Originally posted by Devil King
Using god's word as a tool for your delusions of grandure is another example of your blantant trolling and socking. The converse of your claim is that you, too, have been exposed to the disingenuous nature of the bible and your religion. So, how successful is your quest in that respect? That's a lot of talking for not a single mind to have been changed.
No, I believe that I have been exposed to the Truth. A quest is a search, I am not searching for anything. Success is measure in more ways than one.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveBut Allah is the God of Arabia, and by saying the Christian God isn't Allah,you are wrong. I would prefer you not reffer him as Allah. The reason is Allah is the God of Abraham, the God of Muslims doesn't mean Allah.
According to Muslims the angel Gabriel communicated the Qur'an verbatim to Mohammed directly from Allah. So since the Qu'ran is the word of Allah then whatever it states is Allah speaking.
Analogy: Christian God is an apple, Muslim God is a pear, Allah is a fruit. By saying an apple isn't fruit is wrong. But an apple isn't a pear is right. Both apples and pears are fruit, but they are not exactly the same.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveThese are the words of Muhammed, not Islamic God because Islamic God is being reffered to in the third person.
[b]Surah 4:171 O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.Surah 6:101 The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child, when there is for Him no consort, when He created all things and is Aware of all things ?
Surah 18:4,5 And to warn those who say: Allah hath chosen a son, (A thing) whereof they have no knowledge, nor (had) their fathers, Dreadful is the word that cometh out of their mouths. They speak naught but a lie.
Surah 23:91 Allah hath not chosen any son, nor is there any god along with Him; else would each god have assuredly championed that which he created, and some of them would assuredly have overcome others. Glorified be Allah above all that they allege. [/B]
Referring to the Muslim god as Allah is proper as that is the name he is given. Why hasn't it occured to anyone that they might have been the same at one time (ie. Ishmael worshipped the God of Abraham), but somewhere along the line, Allah replaced this worship. In fact, this seems to be what happened, which is why they are different. They are not similar enough. The evidence does not support them being the same.
Originally posted by lord xyz
But Allah is the God of Arabia, and by saying the Christian God isn't Allah,you are wrong. I would prefer you not reffer him as Allah. The reason is Allah is the God of Abraham, the God of Muslims doesn't mean Allah.Analogy: Christian God is an apple, Muslim God is a pear, Allah is a fruit. By saying an apple isn't fruit is wrong. But an apple isn't a pear is right. Both apples and pears are fruit, but they are not exactly the same.
These are the words of Muhammed, not Islamic God because Islamic God is being reffered to in the third person.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
According to Muslims the angel Gabriel communicated the Qur'an verbatim to Mohammed directly from Allah. So since the Qu'ran is the word of Allah then whatever it states is Allah speaking.