Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You are right, [B]the difference between symbolic cannibalism and actual Cannibalism is significant.What is disgusting about something that is symbolic and representative of spiritual Truth? [/B]
Cannibalism is disgusting to civilized humans in any form. Most people do not realize the "Ukerist" is symbolic cannibalism. If they gave it any thought, they would be sick.
Dionysus is never supposed to have returned from the dead. There is one, single inscription that that claim is based on and it describes Dionysus as "a god who renews himself and returns every year rejuvenated". If you people know anything about fertility and agriculture gods you know that this means that he doesn't even die.
Second, the myth about cannibalism is this:
Dionysus as an infant was set upon Zeus' throne to play at being Master of the Universe. As he sat there, some of the Titans -- bad boys of Greek mythology -- snuck up with some toys and distracted him. While Dioysus was thus distracted, the Titans picked him up, tore him to pieces, and boiled and roasted everything but his heart and ate it. When Zeus got wind of this, he became ticked as he often did, and blew the Titans to smithereens. As the story goes in a later version, from the ashes of the Titans came forth the race of men; D himself was "eventually restored to a new life" from the heart that was left over.
Sadly for this argument this myth is "a myth of unknown origin and contested antiquity". On top of that, it is no where near the same as Eucharist in meaning or practice.
Third, Dionysus was not born of a virgin, that is simply a forgery by Freke and Gandy in The Jesus Mysteries. On top of that, they don't even claim that Dionysus is of virgin birth, only a "miraculous birth".
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonI know, I'm not ignorant. I posted that more along the lines of a joke, because I think its funny that the Bible says that, yet the Church doesn't condemn any of the long haired pictures.
The paintings of Jesus are taken from images in the very early church. However, those images are not of Jesus, but of Zeus. Jesus had short hair and was was a Jew. The paintings of Jesus today are of a long haired Greek man.
Originally posted by Nellinator
Dionysus is never supposed to have returned from the dead. There is one, single inscription that that claim is based on and it describes Dionysus as "a god who renews himself and returns every year rejuvenated". If you people know anything about fertility and agriculture gods you know that this means that he doesn't even die.Second, the myth about cannibalism is this:
Dionysus as an infant was set upon Zeus' throne to play at being Master of the Universe. As he sat there, some of the Titans -- bad boys of Greek mythology -- snuck up with some toys and distracted him. While Dioysus was thus distracted, the Titans picked him up, tore him to pieces, and boiled and roasted everything but his heart and ate it. When Zeus got wind of this, he became ticked as he often did, and blew the Titans to smithereens. As the story goes in a later version, from the ashes of the Titans came forth the race of men; D himself was "eventually restored to a new life" from the heart that was left over.Sadly for this argument this myth is "a myth of unknown origin and contested antiquity". On top of that, it is no where near the same as Eucharist in meaning or practice.
Third, Dionysus was not born of a virgin, that is simply a forgery by Freke and Gandy in The Jesus Mysteries. On top of that, they don't even claim that Dionysus is of virgin birth, only a "miraculous birth".
The claims Dionysus was born of a virgin mainly comes from the merging of his name with that of Osiris, who was born of a virgin.Freke and Gandy get their comparison of Dionysus' and Jesus' birth from the older work of Joseph Campbell.Many ancient gods had stories that revolved around the growth of the next seasons crops.Because they are reborn doesn't mean anything got taken away from their death.If that was the case one could claim Jesus' death ment nothing because he was ressurected.
The ones reborn along with the crops aren't really dying, they are cycling, it's rather different than being slain. Meaning wasn't attached to their deaths. Jesus's death involved certain things that give it significance.
Also, Osiris is the son of Geb, the Earth god and Nut, the sky goddess. I haven't seen anything that really suggests otherwise.
Originally posted by Nellinator
The ones reborn along with the crops aren't really dying, they are cycling, it's rather different than being slain. Meaning wasn't attached to their deaths. Jesus's death involved certain things that give it significance.Also, Osiris is the son of Geb, the Earth god and Nut, the sky goddess. I haven't seen anything that really suggests otherwise.
The meaning in their deaths was that the crops could continue,allowing life to continue.It did run in circles but that was a metaphor for life.Die only to be resurrected.
You are right about Osiris,I got him confused with Mithra.
Originally posted by siriuswriter
I'm sorry, someone's probably already said this, but it's too perfect to not say again.Both. The bible has contradictions *therefore it is inerrant*, and you are uniformed.
Siriuswriter, do you even know what the word "inerrant" means? Just in case you don't, it means free from error. So you just confirmed what I said.
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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Siriuswriter, do you even know what the word "inerrant" means? Just in case you don't, it means [B]free from error. So you just confirmed what I said.😄 [/B]
Only someone who believes in inerrancies in the face of contradictions could believe that statement is correct.
Thats just silly, just like your interpretation of the bible.