Merlyn vs Abraxus

Still no evidence i see? 😕

Just as expected. 🙂

Otherworld was built with the matrix power at a point where realities intersected, a point where all realities crossover. Think of it as being a crossroads of reality. How does highlighting this point over and over again tell me or anybody that the energy matrix established by Phoenix is still stabilised and accessible by Merlyn?

Where does it state anywhere on panel that the matrix has to be stabilised and accessible by Merlyn for Otherworld to exist?

Merlyn needed it stabilised and accessible so he could draw power from it to build Otherworld, but once that was done where exactly does it state a constant supply of matrix energy needed to be fed to Otherworld by Merlyn for it to exist?

Merlyn as i've shown says he could access the power no longer. He hasnt shown to be able to on panel ever since, therefore your argument that he still can based solely on the fact that things he created with the power are still around, is just assumption and really isnt good enough.

Show me scans stating that the Citadel or the C Nullifier require a constant feed of Matrix energy from Merlyn

Show me scans of Merlyn conclusively tapping into the matrix power and wielding it AFTER Excalibur #50

Otherwise youre presuming to be the top authority on Marvel comics cosmic law who dictates canon therefore you know for a fact that these Merlyn creations couldnt possibly be around if Merlyn couldnt wield the matrix energy and therefore Merlyn still wields it? 🤨

Is that really your argument? 😱 😂

So is this just a match of who can get in the last word, or what? 😕

For the onlookers, because it's hopeless for the agenda minded.

Again: (1998 and 2005)

The Starlight Citidel has been the Watch Tower for some time now:

"At the CENTER POINT of CREATION is the Starlight Citadel"

"from this venue,

the Guardian of Reality can view events on EVERY PLANE of the OMNIVERSE"

Excalibur NEVER truly destroyed the Matrix,

Merlyn allowed them and Roma to believe that.

swank

How the heck is the Tower still in effect,

if it was supposedly "destroyed?" hum

Originally posted by Mr Master
For the onlookers, because it's hopeless for the agenda minded.

Again: (1998 and 2005)

The Starlight Citidel has been the Watch Tower for some time now:

"At the CENTER POINT of CREATION is the Starlight Citadel"

"from this venue,

the Guardian of Reality can view events on EVERY PLANE of the OMNIVERSE"

Excalibur NEVER truly destroyed the Matrix,

Merlyn allowed them and Roma to believe that.

swank

How the heck is the Tower still in effect,

if it was supposedly "destroyed?" hum

Please dont try and delude onlookers by trying to make out that the Starlight Citadel, that is Romas watchtower is one and the same as Excaliburs lighthouse that Meggan destroyed. 😂

Come up with the goods as aforementioned or drop it 👇 😱

firefirefireph

Originally posted by Mr Master
firefirefireph

Smilies. 😄

Theyre all you have left 😬

I like to see that. 🙂

No replacement for a concrete argument backed by some scans unfortunately. 24 hours later im still waiting on you. Hurry up Emmie the suspense is toooo much!!! 😱

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Smilies.

Theyre all you have left

I like to see that.

No replacement for a concrete argument backed by some scans unfortunately. 24 hours later im still waiting on you. Hurry up Emmie the suspense is toooo much!!!

stfu2

Yes GS we know,

no one can do anything except for Phoenix.

You will always demean every other character in order to promote your Phoenix agenda.

You must be under the impression I'm the only one that notices this. 🙄

And im supposed to care about what you and your deluded harem think of me?

Why on earth would i do that when i can show you up like this?:

Originally posted by Mr Master
For the onlookers, because it's hopeless for the agenda minded.

Again: (1998 and 2005)

The Starlight Citidel has been the Watch Tower for some time now:

"At the CENTER POINT of CREATION is the Starlight Citadel"

"from this venue,

the Guardian of Reality can view events on EVERY PLANE of the OMNIVERSE"

Excalibur NEVER truly destroyed the Matrix,

Merlyn allowed them and Roma to believe that.

swank

How the heck is the Tower still in effect,

if it was supposedly "destroyed?" hum

Mr Master just tried to say the Starlight Citadel is the same thing as Excaliburs tower. He did so in an effort to win the argument, and he said this so he could say look here it shows the tower being destroyed but look a few years later the Starlight Citadel is still standing, so that means Merlyn was lying he still wields the matrix and im right. WRONG!! 😬

They are NOT the same thing.

For one the towers are on Earth 616 and alternate Earths, within the multiverse. The Citadel is in Otherworld at its intersection.

The towers were sent and established across the multiverse by the Phoenix thereby stabilising the matrix obviously BEFORE Merlyn could then use that stabilized power to establish Otherworld and the Citadel:

To top this off as i've shown previously the towers across the alternate Earths of the multiverse were destroyed by Excalibur and as you showed the Starlight Citadel, Romas omniversal watchtower still remains in OTHERWORLD to this day

And yet you would turn around and have us believe that they're the same thing? 🤨

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
And im supposed to care about what you and your deluded harem think of me?

Why on earth would i do that when i can show you up like this?:

Mr Master just tried to say the Starlight Citadel is the same thing as Excaliburs tower. He did so in an effort to win the argument, and he said this so he could say look here it shows the tower being destroyed but look a few years later the Starlight Citadel is still standing, so that means Merlyn was lying he still wields the matrix and im right. [B]WRONG!!

They are NOT the same thing.

For one the towers are on Earth 616 and alternate Earths, within the multiverse. The Citadel is in Otherworld at its intersection.

The towers were sent and established across the multiverse by the Phoenix thereby stabilising the matrix obviously BEFORE Merlyn could then use that stabilized power to establish Otherworld and the Citadel:

To top this off as i've shown previously the towers across the alternate Earths of the multiverse were destroyed by Excalibur and as you showed the Starlight Citadel, Romas omniversal watchtower still remains in OTHERWORLD to this day

And yet you would turn around and have us believe that they're the same thing? [/B]

firefirefireph

This isn't going anywhere.

I made my point, I don't care what you force yourself to believe.

I'm done.

In Brian's and Meggan's wedding, (0ver 70 issues AFTER Excalibur #50)

Merlyn makes an appearance in disguised:

"You, Father, are like a Force of Nature"

The ONLY Event that Merlyn did not manipulate, was Excalibur's break up,

everything up to that point, has been Merlyn's doing.

And Roma thought even that was Manipulated, as their entire History has been:

"Though the Swrod we two so Craftly Forged (Excalibur Group)

hath been Sheathed for now,

it may yet be drawn anew when the Time is right ... Someday"

(excerpt from the Official Handbook bio - Merlyn)

The destruction of the Tower,

"Perhaps as Merlyn Intended"

"Perhaps"

Because it was never established On Panel how the Interface Alignment remained,

after the Tower was destroyed.

Obviously because Merlyn Manipulated the whole thing, he always has.

This is literally almost 7 Years (late 1998) after Excalubur #50

(when the Tower was destroyed in 1992)

This is 2005

"From here, you can Access any point in Creation"

Sounds like the same thing the old Excalibur Tower was capable of. hm

How can that be the Tower was destroyed, wasn't it? 😆

Handled previously, you've brought nothing new to the table.

I've just shot down your last ditch equalise the Citadel to the Lighthouse idea to flames.

You have yet to show us a scan showing that Merlyns creations require a constant supply of matrix energy from him to exist.

As such you cannot say that Merlyn must still wield the matrix power based solely on the fact that his creations are still around.

Please show us an on panel reference stating that that actually is the case. Help us to separate reality from deluded fantasy. 🙂

Enough for now.

Admirable attempt. 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Handled previously, you've brought nothing new to the table.

I've just shot down your last ditch equalise the Citadel to the Lighthouse idea to flames.

You have yet to show us a scan showing that Merlyns creations require a constant supply of matrix energy from him to exist.

As such you cannot say that Merlyn must still wield the matrix power based solely on the fact that his creations are still around.

greennuts 🤣 😆

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Please show us an on panel reference stating that that actually is the case. Help us to separate reality from deluded fantasy.

As deluded as the thought that Phoenix is the life force of Reality?

Not quite.

Points still stand im afraid. Diversion will get you nowhere. 🙁

Needs to questions answeared by the way.

1. When has Merlyn ever erased a concept from anything
2. Is the matrix mystical in nature

Originally posted by Mr Master

Excalibur NEVER truly destroyed the Matrix,

Merlyn allowed them and Roma to believe that.

swank

How the heck is the Tower still in effect,

if it was supposedly "destroyed?" hum

The matrix fading on panel before our eyes and Otherworld remaining intact as that happens. As i said, theres no evidence that Otherworld requires a constant source of Matrix energy from Merlyn to exist. In fact it doesnt need the matrix to be in existence at all.

"The Matrix is no more"

Cool 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The matrix fading on panel before our eyes and Otherworld remaining intact as that happens. As i said, theres no evidence that Otherworld requires a constant source of Matrix energy from Merlyn to exist. In fact it doesnt need the matrix to be in existence at all.

"The Matrix is no more"

Cool 🙂

Good scans

🙂

Merlyn FTW

You know just for fun and just because I want to. Why does everyone all say Merlin is so powerful when he was killed by a group of Fing Fang Foom's Dragon Kind

😛

Originally posted by golem370
Merlyn- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlyn_(Marvel_Comics)

Bro your link doesnt work, it leads to the Arthurian Merlin and not the one from marvel comics...for some reason.

🙂