Originally posted by Fishy
The FBI deals with hate crimes, it's their job. They also have the responsibility to categorize crimes and create these statistics. They are accurate.Also
http://www.justice.gc.ca/en/ps/rs/rep/1995/wd95-11a.pdf
There you go, exact same report this time from the Canadian justice website. Happy now?
Admit it, you were making them up.
Not every hate crime is handled by the FBI. And no I am not making anything up.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Not every hate crime is handled by the FBI. And no I am not making anything up.
So at least you agree that Canada's hate crime rate (assuming you weren't lying) could easily be 10 times higher then the one you gave..
Now as for your claim in this post 🙂
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2005/jurisdiction.htm
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/ucr.htm
The FBI does collect and handle all data on all crimes committed in the US that includes Hate Crimes. Meaning that the figures and numbers I gave you were actually real and I have sources to prove it. Where as your numbers don't even come close to the one's I gave and you have no prove.
Ergo mister law student we must conclude that you are lying.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Fine I will get them scanned and show them on here and then you guys can admit I'm right.
Go ahead and do that, but I am willing to bet you never will... The very agency in charge of collecting this data shows your statistics are wrong just admit it, you were lying. It would be more honest of you.
Originally posted by Starhawk
No it does not and I am not lying and when I scan them you will see, but I assume until then your just going to post childish insults one after the other.
So you're saying that the statistics from the FBI, the bureau in charge of collecting this data, are wrong then?
For the record, if the figures in your book didn't come from the FBI then they aren't the official figures... So really how can they be any different unless they are wrong and thus lying? I would still of course like to know whether you are lying, or if the book is just wrong. But your figures are wrong all the same.
Originally posted by Starhawk
As I said the FBI does not handle every hate crime in the US. And you need to re-read the post you quoted because your doing exactly what I said you would.
What childish insult would that be then? Care to point it out for me, and as I already proved with two links the FBI is in charge of handling all statistics about crimes in the entire country. This includes hate crimes. But just for you here they are again, since you seem to have missed them in the other post..
Originally posted by Fishy
What childish insult would that be then? Care to point it out for me, and as I already proved with two links the FBI is in charge of handling all statistics about crimes in the entire country. This includes hate crimes. But just for you here they are again, since you seem to have missed them in the other post..
I said I would scan the reports for you, but much like a two year old, you can't wait and have to keep insulting. Which proves that this is less a search for truth and more an excuse to have a fight.
Originally posted by Starhawk
I said I would scan the reports for you, but much like a two year old, you can't wait and have to keep insulting. Which proves that this is less a search for truth and more an excuse to have a fight.
Once again, please show me where I insulted you since the last time you said I would.
But we could just as easily forget about that, if you can't show me.
What is far more important however is another question, do you accept that your statistics have to be wrong? Either because the book is wrong or because you made them up because they don't match the FBI statistics, or do you continue to deny that?
Originally posted by Starhawk
See? Like a kid, you can't wait for me to get the info scanned, you have to keep trying to have a fight. The FBI does not handle every hate crime in the US.
Again read the links I provided, which clearly state they do.
Or are you refusing to read those for some crazy reason?
The FBI handles all statistics on the matter, not all hate crimes but all statistics on it. Meaning they know exactly what crimes were committed were and when. Making it very clear that if their numbers are different from yours, yours are wrong. Now I would love to see the scan to see if your book is just wrong, or to see if you are lying. But you are wrong, no matter what. It's as simple as that.
But just for you here are the links again, try not to miss them this time okay?
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2005/jurisdiction.htm
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/ucr.htm
And could you please show me were I insulted you recently? I woud so love to see that...
Originally posted by Starhawk
And still you go on, not willing to be patient enough for me to get the info for you scanned.
I'm just asking you three very simple yes or no questions.
1.) Have you read the links I provided?
2.) If so, then you must surely admit that your figures are wrong, right?
3.) Where did I insult you recently?
Please just answer those questions and I'll shut up.
Originally posted by Starhawk
And still you won't allow anyone else the time to scan and prove their facts. Your simply trying to pick a fight.
This is so funny, especially after you just made the politicians can't answer simple yes or no questions thread...
I love you man 🙂
But again, what do your figures matter? The FBI the primary and only trusted US source on the matter disagrees with them, that is all that matters. I just don't see how you can ignore that... Really...