Originally posted by Starhawk
You haven't even seen mine yet, so you can't say that. That is my point, but you are so immature and childish that you can't wait and you need to froth at the mouth for a fight and bash someone else.This is about ego for you and thats all.
Yes, very simple logic can deduct that they must be wrong.
Originally posted by Starhawk
You haven't even seen mine yet, so you can't say that. That is my point, but you are so immature and childish that you can't wait and you need to froth at the mouth for a fight and bash someone else.This is about ego for you and thats all.
We don't need to see yours to know it's wrong, because we have official sources that say otherwise. That means very simply that your sources are wrong... How can you not see that?
Originally posted by Starhawk
Wow, thats 'Bush' caliber logic. You have yet to see the reports and you automatically denounce them? "Open-minded' doesn't have meaning for you.
And that is exactly what you do in the thread about Canada and Kyoto... Funny really, and your prove makes no difference because it can't be true, as official US sources say otherwise, and they are the only one that could really know.
Originally posted by Fishy
We don't need to see yours to know it's wrong, because we have official sources that say otherwise. That means very simply that your sources are wrong... How can you not see that?
My sources are also official, they are reports put out by the federal governments of those 3 countries.
You would never last in a courtroom setting or a debate. Both sides get to present their proof whether either side likes it or not.
Originally posted by Starhawk
My sources are also official, they are reports put out by the federal governments of those 3 countries.You would never last in a courtroom setting or a debate. Both sides get to present their proof whether either side likes it or not.
Of course they all get to show their evidence, but if my evidence shows yours wrong long before you post it that just means you are wrong no matter what.
Your source is a book, my source is the FBI that is charged with collecting all statistics on the matter. Your book could only get their numbers from one source and that is the FBI they obviously didn't because the numbers are different meaning your sources are neither official nor right. They are wrong, it's as simple as that. I would still love to see you post the prove though, because that would mean you are just stupid instead of a liar.
They are not books as I have said before. They are federal reports.
You really think only the FBI gets the info? The US department of justice can look over the info themselves whether or not the FBI likes it seeing as how the FBI works for THEM.
You have a very poor debating style if all you do is throw your points out there and then pout and say no one else can present anything because you think you must be right. Sorry in the real world thats not how it works.
As I said I have agreed to get you scans of this material, now be patient.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Wow, thats 'Bush' caliber logic. You have yet to see the reports and you automatically denounce them? "Open-minded' doesn't have meaning for you.
N-no.
I denounce them because the official statistics put out by the US government can not possibly be the ones you said they are.
Originally posted by Starhawk
[b]They are not books as I have said before. They are federal reports.You really think only the FBI gets the info? The US department of justice can look over the info themselves whether or not the FBI likes it seeing as how the FBI works for THEM.
You have a very poor debating style if all you do is throw your points out there and then pout and say no one else can present anything because you think you must be right. Sorry in the real world thats not how it works.
As I said I have agreed to get you scans of this material, now be patient. [/B]
And once again, the FBI is in charge of collecting the data, they are the one's that make the reports get the statistics. They are the one's that present the numbers, ergo the numbers they present are right. Any other number is wrong by default. It's just the way the world works.
And I might have a poor debating style, but at least I'm not a hypocrite who says that answering yes or no questions is easy, yet still hasn't answered 3 very easy yes or no questions posted pages ago.
I haven't said somebody insulted me but when asked for prove of that failed to show any, and I'm not the one ignoring actual prove of something... But you are right, my debating style really is poor. Now just post your so called prove, and then read the FBI site that clearly says they are responsible for collecting all US data on crimes, and thus clearly shows your data is wrong as it contradicts theirs...
Originally posted by Bardock42
N-no.I denounce them because the official statistics put out by the US government can not possibly be the ones you said they are.
And yet if I provide scans of these reports then it is obviously possible they are.
And the US department of justice can also look over the stats and have their own study done.
And as I said be patient, your all frothing at the mouth for a fight but you need to clam down and be patient.
Originally posted by Starhawk
And yet if I provide scans of these reports then it is obviously possible they are.And the US department of justice can also look over the stats and have their own study done.
And as I said be patient, your all frothing at the mouth for a fight but you need to clam down and be patient.
Have you read my post or are you just ignoring it? And the US justice department might do their own research, but the FBI still has the official numbers. They are the one's that check the entire US for crime rates. They are the official US source on the matter. The highest source you can find related to this. Therefor they are right, your sources are wrong.
Originally posted by Starhawk
And yet if I provide scans of these reports then it is obviously possible they are.And the US department of justice can also look over the stats and have their own study done.
And as I said be patient, your all frothing at the mouth for a fight but you need to clam down and be patient.
God, Eclipso, I didn't think it would be possible you could piss me off more.
Here's a deal, if you do not reply to this thread (from now on) until you got your evidence then I won't...confirm by not replying.
Originally posted by Fishy
Have you read my post or are you just ignoring it? And the US justice department might do their own research, but the FBI still has the official numbers. They are the one's that check the entire US for crime rates. They are the official US source on the matter. The highest source you can find related to this. Therefor they are right, your sources are wrong.
No, the US Department of Justice also has the official numbers. And since they are the highest judicial source in America, THEY are the highest source. And no my sources are not wrong simply because you say they are, it seems your scared to wait and see them because you think they might prove your wrong.
And bardock, your petty need to have the last word means nothing to me.
Originally posted by Starhawk
No, the US Department of Justice also has the official numbers. And since they are the highest judicial source in America, THEY are the highest source. And no my sources are not wrong simply because you say they are, it seems your scared to wait and see them because you think they might prove your wrong.And bardock, your petty need to have the last word means nothing to me.
Your need to reply without any facts does though, doesn't it.
You have been shown to be wrong. Why continue? Do it like the other trolls, vanish from this thread and appear sometime later claiming something even more stupid.
Originally posted by Starhawk
No, the US Department of Justice also has the official numbers. And since they are the highest judicial source in America, THEY are the highest source. And no my sources are not wrong simply because you say they are, it seems your scared to wait and see them because you think they might prove your wrong.And bardock, your petty need to have the last word means nothing to me.
What part of this
The Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program was conceived in 1929 by the International Association of Chiefs of Police to meet a need for reliable, uniform crime statistics for the nation. In 1930, the FBI was tasked with collecting, publishing, and archiving those statistics. Today, several annual statistical publications, such as the comprehensive Crime in the United States, are produced from data provided by nearly 17,000 law enforcement agencies across the United States.
Don't you understand? The FBI collects this data
And funny thing when we look at the justice department site and search for hate crime statistics we find links to the site of the FBI.
They didn't conduct their own research they get their data from the FBI like I said for the last few hours. You are simply wrong, just admit it and move on.