The Thought Police (new hate crimes law)...

Started by Starhawk46 pages

I have not been proven wrong, you guys are simply not willing to wait for me to provide the scans you asked for I might add. I think it's because your scared of what they will say.

Read my last post on the previous page, it will be good for you, as it clearly shows you are wrong...

Again, but you will likely just ignore it.

Originally posted by Starhawk
I have not been proven wrong, you guys are simply not willing to wait for me to provide the scans you asked for I might add. I think it's because your scared of what they will say.

We are, why are you constanly replying without providing the evidence. If you would just reply when you have something to add we wouldn't have a problem, but so far you are only babbling. Show the evidence, then we can continue, so long there is no reason for you to talk here, is there?

Originally posted by Fishy
Read my last post on the previous page, it will be good for you, as it clearly shows you are wrong...

Again, but you will likely just ignore it.

It doesn't prove I'm wrong as I have proof from a source higher up then yours.

And Bardock I have every right to reply to you if I wish. You don't get to say who can and cannot post in a thread and you are keeping this going as much as I am so don't act like your any better.

Originally posted by Starhawk
It doesn't prove I'm wrong as I have proof from a source higher up then yours.

And Bardock I have every right to reply to you if I wish. You don't get to say who can and cannot post in a thread and you are keeping this going as much as I am so don't act like your any better.

Of course you do have a right. I am just saying you have no reasonable reason.

Now, why don't you go get your evidence already...

Seeing as you won't read it let me just quote myself.

The Justice department links to the FBI when you ask them for the statistics, they don't have their own. They use the FBI statistics. You are wrong, your sources are wrong. Or you are just making them up and continue trying to bullshit your way out of this...

Originally posted by Fishy
What part of this

The Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program was conceived in 1929 by the International Association of Chiefs of Police to meet a need for reliable, uniform crime statistics for the nation. In 1930, the FBI was tasked with collecting, publishing, and archiving those statistics. Today, several annual statistical publications, such as the comprehensive Crime in the United States, are produced from data provided by nearly 17,000 law enforcement agencies across the United States.

Don't you understand? The FBI collects this data

And funny thing when we look at the justice department site and search for hate crime statistics we find links to the site of the FBI.

http://searchjustice.usdoj.gov/search?q=hate+crime+statistics&sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=iso-8859-1&oe=UTF-8&client=default_frontend&proxystylesheet=default_frontend&site=default_collection&btnG.x=0&btnG.y=0&btnG=Search

They didn't conduct their own research they get their data from the FBI like I said for the last few hours. You are simply wrong, just admit it and move on.

How can they be wrong if they come from the department of justice?

And bardock if it bothers you so much then just ignore the thread. By keeping this going your acting like a hypocrite.

Originally posted by Starhawk
How can they be wrong if they come from the department of justice?

And bardock if it bothers you so much then just ignore the thread. By keeping this going your acting like a hypocrite.

Because as I have just showed you, the department of justice doesn't create these statistics they let the FBI do it. Their own website clearly says so. That should really say all you need to know.

Originally posted by Starhawk
How can they be wrong if they come from the department of justice?

And bardock if it bothers you so much then just ignore the thread. By keeping this going your acting like a hypocrite.

Maybe it just bothers me because you actually do behave so hypocritical.

Why are you still responding to the thread though you have nothing new to add? (straight question, got an answer?)

Originally posted by Bardock42
Maybe it just bothers me because you actually do behave so hypocritical.

Why are you still responding to the thread though you have nothing new to add? (straight question, got an answer?)

You asked and answered your own question in the same post.

Originally posted by Starhawk
It doesn't prove I'm wrong as I have proof from a source higher up then yours.

And Bardock I have every right to reply to you if I wish. You don't get to say who can and cannot post in a thread and you are keeping this going as much as I am so don't act like your any better.

Do you not understand that as far as your evidence is concerned if we can't see it it's not real? Your evidence is not falsifiable which makes it completely imaginary, until we can actually see it, which, I doubt we ever will. In a court room setting you would be buggered, it's like me saying 'the murder weapon was a hammer, but I'll go and get it tommorow'.

Originally posted by Fishy
Because as I have just showed you, the department of justice doesn't create these statistics they let the FBI do it. Their own website clearly says so. That should really say all you need to know.

No, the reports I will scan and post are all I need to know.

Originally posted by Starhawk
You asked and answered your own question in the same post.

Straight answer, please.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Do you not understand that as far as your evidence is concerned if we can't see it it's not real? Your evidence is not falsifiable which makes it completely imaginary, until we can actually see it, which, I doubt we ever will. In a court room setting you would be buggered, it's like me saying 'the murder weapon was a hammer, but I'll go and get it tommorow'.

And yet your not willing to wait and see it, you continue to argue instead of waiting to see it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Straight answer, please.

Maybe it just bothers me because you actually do behave so hypocritical.

Why are you still responding to the thread though you have nothing new to add? (straight question, got an answer?)

Originally posted by Starhawk
No, the reports I will scan and post are all I need to know.

All you need to know is everything that supports you and nothing that can prove you wrong. The justice site links to the FBI for the statistics, the FBI is the official authority for gathering these statistics, they are by law required to do so and have been doing so for over 70 years...

Yet for some reason you ignore all that, just claim you are right and fail to actually post any evidence for it, and that is logical because it's impossible. But let me just summarize for you so you can understand, I know it's really hard but please just try using your brain and reading for once, okay?

1.) FBI is by law required to collect this data and has done so for 70 years.

2.) Justice department links to the FBI data on their official website when you look for hate crime and or ordinary crime statistics.

Really is it that hard to understand this?

Originally posted by Starhawk
And yet your not willing to wait and see it, you continue to argue instead of waiting to see it.

Would a courtroom wait to see it? I think not. A debate and/or trial does not last weeks, you need to have your evidence ready, you do not. You are quoting something you may or may not have read either way we have no way of knowing its accuracy. I honestly can't believe you're a law student, well I've never actually believed you are. I think you just love to lie.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Maybe it just bothers me because you actually do behave so hypocritical.

Why are you still responding to the thread though you have nothing new to add? (straight question, got an answer?)

Because you are responding to the thread without the evidence we are so dearly waiting for.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Would a courtroom wait to see it? I think not. A debate and/or trial does not last weeks, you need to have your evidence ready, you do not. You are quoting something you may or may not have read either way we have no way of knowing its accuracy. I honestly can't believe you're a law student, well I've never actually believed you are. I think you just love to lie.

This isn't a courtroom, in a courtroom both sides are given ample time to gather there evidence before the trial starts. This is just you guys scared to wait until I have the scans and in the meantime needing to pad your egos.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Because you are responding to the thread without the evidence we are so dearly waiting for.

So? I still have the right to respond. You on the other hand have no reason to respond until the evidence is posted.

It's just the need to pad your ego and think your right.