Originally posted by DisappearActully you'd never reach infinity. And that's kind of the point. The only way to get to infinity is to start off with infinity.
you realize by counting to infinity, i'd be going through all known numbers en route, thus proving my point, yes?there are times that i truly love you, cresh. one might say i have a cresh crush.
wouldn't that simply mean every number is simply a 1/infinity percent of infinity? infinity divided by one is infinity; and infinity divided by infinity is [in principle] one. thus, infinity contains both one and infinity. infinity is also divisible by every other integer, though it's status as an abstract concept keeps the remainder from being anything but infinity.
you cannot count to infinity. that is true. you can [not as a biological entity, but in theory] count infinitely toward infinity, thus negating any numerical value potentially applied to the term and supplementing it with the definition of "ever increasing." and with no upper boundary to the strength the hulk could possess, he could continue to develop strength infinitely, making him an "infinity" of power.
Originally posted by SoljerWhen talking about the concept of infinity?
Limits, my friend, limits.
Originally posted by DisappearYou'd never reach infinity. Even if you had an eternity. that's the problem. The number would increase forever but it would never ever reach infinity.
wouldn't that simply mean every number is simply a 1/infinity percent of infinity? infinity divided by one is infinity; and infinity divided by infinity is [in principle] one. thus, infinity contains both one and infinity. infinity is also divisible by every other integer, though it's status as an abstract concept keeps the remainder from being anything but infinity.you cannot count to infinity. that is true. you can [not as a biological entity, but in theory] count infinitely toward infinity, thus negating any numerical value potentially applied to the term and supplementing it with the definition of "ever increasing." and with no upper boundary to the strength the hulk could possess, he could continue to develop strength infinitely, making him an "infinity" of power.
you keep trying to define infinity in numerical terms, despite that being impossible. it's just as impossible to "start at infinity" as it is to reach infinity, because infinity is continually increasing. the only applicable definition of infinity that can be used is that it increases without bound [the accepted definition in higher mathematics.] attempting to comprehend it as a numerical term is literally impossible.
Originally posted by Disappear
you keep trying to define infinity in numerical terms, despite that being impossible. it's just as impossible to "start at infinity" as it is to reach infinity, because infinity is continually increasing. the only applicable definition of infinity that can be used is that it increases without bound [the accepted definition in higher mathematics.] attempting to comprehend it as a numerical term is literally impossible.
False. Infinity is NOT continually increasing - if it were, it'd have a bound (an expanding bound, but a bound nonetheless). Infinity isn't increasing. It isn't expanding. It simply IS.
Originally posted by Soljer
False. Infinity is NOT continually increasing - if it were, it'd have a bound (an expanding bound, but a bound nonetheless). Infinity isn't increasing. It isn't expanding. It simply IS.
Not bad.... However infinity is often used incorrectly even by scientists. For instance when dealing with black holes the calculations go infinite (Hawking). No Mr. Hawking Black holes are finite. The numbers are just to big for us at the moment. Ambiguity abounds in the infinite........