Originally posted by jinzinHulk gets his mass from pocket dimensions,not his power.
At this point I'd just like to comment that in leading back to what started this discussion, people are trying to make sense of Hulk's power set as if it's more viable than Wolverine's....Hulk gets his power from pocket demensions.. it's no way in hell more plausible.
actually Apocalypse implied otherwise when he turned Hulk into war.
I'd also like to add...
SABRETOOTH'S A SKRULL!!!!
He's gotta be!
That's the only way they could kill him off so definitively as they did in Wolverine 55.
It also explains what the **** happened to his adamantium skeleton that dissapeared for no apparent reason, cause he didn't have it, cause he was a skrull....
Also why he didn't tell Wolverine anything about Romulus, not because he didn't want to tell Logan, but because he didn't, know, he was a skrull!
And I mean c'mon! "quad sum eras"? since when has Sabretooth had the mental capacity or the attention span to learn latin? He doesn't, but a skrull does!
Same with how he knew how to operate the blackbird.
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Originally posted by jinzin
actually Apocalypse implied otherwise when he turned Hulk into war.I'd also like to add...
SABRETOOTH'S A SKRULL!!!!
He's gotta be!
That's the only way they could kill him off so definitively as they did in Wolverine 55.
It also explains what the **** happened to his adamantium skeleton that dissapeared for no apparent reason, cause he didn't have it, cause he was a skrull....
Also why he didn't tell Wolverine anything about Romulus, not because he didn't want to tell Logan, but because he didn't, know, he was a skrull!
And I mean c'mon! "quad sum eras"? since when has Sabretooth had the mental capacity or the attention span to learn latin? He doesn't, but a skrull does!
Same with how he knew how to operate the blackbird.😏
I thought it was revealed after he deserted the reformed Weapon X a few years back that Sabretooth was only playing the role of stupid henchman; that he was actually quite smart and cunning, only it suited his purposes to make others think he wasn't. He also has an extensive military and blackopts black ground, I'd say he knows at least as many languages as Logan.
The biggest question in my mind is whether Romulus is "Wolverine" or "Sabretooth"? In all the flash backs the two that rise above the rest of the pack (one blonde and one black) always look like both Sabretooth and Wolverine (which also eliminates Kyle from playing any important role in my mind). So is Romulus the 'Sabretooth' of his time, or is he the 'Wolverine?' If he is 'Sabretooth' then killing of Victor makes sense because you don't need two Sabretooths... but if he is the 'Wolverine' of his time then that leads way to more interesting stories.
... and Sabretooth's body didn't change into a Skrull after his head was lopped off, so I think its safe to assume that he isn't a Skrull. I know sometimes in the past dead bodies haven't always reverted back into Skrulls after death but I imagine the editorial staff would be keeping things tight knit on a big event like this.
well, my last post was more of a joke than an actual theory..
I mean common srank give me a lil more credit than THAT, I know how intelligent Sabretooth is, hacking into the Logan files and all that.
I just thought it was a funny, sabes denial post.
meh, if it was a skrull hypothetically: the Wolverine skrull didn't revert ro skrull form when it died.. so...
to imply that infinity simply IS also implies it's definable, which is also contradictory to its nature. to use a vonnegut-ian reference, numbers exist as points, whereas infinity exists more as an indefinable wave. to count to infinity equates to continuously increasing throughout the realm of known and unknown numbers without ending.
as it relates to comics. infinity is synonymous with the terms unlimited, limitless, etcetera. "no peak," "no ceiling," and so on, when applied to potential for anything. it's a commonly used term, and reference, in the comic community. omega level mutants, magic people, and apparently hulk.
and if the objection to hulk gaining mass from another dimension has any grounds, so should the idea of wolverine healing [with no explanation beyond the simple mechanics of human/animal cellular replication] from a skeleton.
Originally posted by DisappearActually you got it backwards. The hulk's attribute was brought up to point out a lack of sense within comic books to counter someone saying that Wolverine's feats didn't makes sense. Going back to the start would just craeate a circular reasoning.
to imply that infinity simply IS also implies it's definable, which is also contradictory to its nature. to use a vonnegut-ian reference, numbers exist as points, whereas infinity exists more as an indefinable wave. to count to infinity equates to continuously increasing throughout the realm of known and unknown numbers without ending.as it relates to comics. infinity is synonymous with the terms unlimited, limitless, etcetera. "no peak," "no ceiling," and so on, when applied to potential for anything. it's a commonly used term, and reference, in the comic community. omega level mutants, magic people, and apparently hulk.
and if the objection to hulk gaining mass from another dimension has any grounds, so should the idea of wolverine healing [with no explanation beyond the simple mechanics of human/animal cellular replication] from a skeleton.
Originally posted by DisappearHis comment on the irrationality of hulk is in retort to Jack's comment on the irrationality of Wolverine, as was mine.
i was referring to jinzin's comment about the irrationality of hulk's increased mass/powers from a pocket dimension, not replying to your complaint about hulk's strength.
If one is irrational, then virtually everything in comics is. The only truly irrational thing is the double standard of accepting one and not the other.
Originally posted by DisappearNo, I tried to show how ridiculous the premise of Hulk's power was. Since it was mentioned that Wolverine's power didn't make sense in context of the Hulk.
you tried to establish the "double standard" by disproving the premise of hulk's power, but didn't. that wasn't the point?
I accept it for what it is. It's called the suspension of disbelief. Hulk's power is ridiculous, and so is wolverine's power. But to discard one and accept the other shows a double standard and anybody's ridiculous power can be argued against.
Originally posted by Jack Harkness
It is Hulks power, it isn't Wolverines, his is a healing factor that shouldn't help with punches like that.
Originally posted by Disappear
and if the objection to hulk gaining mass from another dimension has any grounds, so should the idea of wolverine healing [with no explanation beyond the simple mechanics of human/animal cellular replication] from a skeleton.
Well it should have grounds if Wolverine is going to be subjected to this double standard that many try to subject him to.
No one's super powers really make a whole heck of scientific sense, but Wolverine is the only one who constantly gets picked on for it. I don't personally have a problem with my suspension of disbelief, Hulk can draw his power from eating bean burritos for all I care. I was just pointing out how this current debate aside, in comparison with what Wolverine can do that maybe he shouldn't be able to do based on "logic"
Hulks powerset doesn't really make sense either.
Originally posted by Creshosk
His comment on the irrationality of hulk is in retort to Jack's comment on the irrationality of Wolverine, as was mine.If one is irrational, then virtually everything in comics is. The only truly irrational thing is the double standard of accepting one and not the other.
Originally posted by DisappearThen you are missing the point, the complaint about Hulk didn't come first, the one for Wolverine did, the complaint (well it's not so much a complaint as much as a perception) about the character came from a RESPONSE to a similar complaint for Wolverine that you just stated.
which is what i pointed out by countering the comment about hulk's power with a similar complaint which could be applied to wolverine. double standards cut both ways.
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
1. Arguing the differences between two irrational things is comics, based on their irrationality, is pretty f*cking pointless.2. What does the name "Romulus" refer to. I know that it's something Wolfy, 'cause Lupin used it as a code name in HP #7. durverine
3. Spamalot rocks.
1.) The point is why is it that Wolvie's irrationality is not accepted when other's irrationality are/is?
2.) Actually it was a play off of his first name Remus. Romulus and Remus are the two brothers fabled to have founded Rome.
Originally posted by Creshosk1. Becuase people are naturally irrational.
1.) The point is why is it that Wolvie's irrationality is not accepted when other's irrationality are/is?2.) Actually it was a play off of his first name Remus. Romulus and Remus are the two brothers fabled to have founded Rome.
2. Gah! I should have realized that. Dur me.
Also, that makes me as lost as everyone else. Ho hum.