Punisher.....is underrated on the boards

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Shut up woman, go mancrush on Punisher some more.

Name some martial arts he's studied. As a member of the United States Air Force I can guarantee that the only martial arts training you'll get in any branch of the military is on your own time. You learn how to fight, and in some jobs you learn fighting systems, but these are pretty much all just glorified brawling techniques with a few simple submissions mixed in. Because in reality, there isn't much more effective than a full on blow to the groin/face.

Actions speak louder than words.

This being said speacial ops h2h training is quite different. Your h2h training is much better. You actaully in many cases are trained by martial artist.

Yes the best h2h fighters are consider the marines and frank was speacial ops so yes he a train fighter. He likly knows a bunch of moves from different styles however that does not make him a highly trained MA. Frank may be a master of of two styles maybe. Though he a highly skilled fighter and resource full his MA prowess is limited.

Capt it up and Nataku....side by side?

The only team up more contrasting would be Red Hood and Nightwing!!

I'm quite surprised Molly's fist didn't go clean THROUGH Frank. Would of been awesome.

Punisher would be on the ground all 'shit..medic...medic ! ' and Molly would be crying her eyes out over it (even though Frank was going to kill them because...well..he's an *******) and in the background you'd have me in the classic MJJ suit laughing and pointing.

Then the whole city explodes, we back out and it all turns out be a paining done by Issac from Heroes.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
You lie, atleast Xavin isn't annoying.

I actually hate how annoying Molly is, she acts like she's about 5 when she's 12. Come on, that's a little pathetic, she's better under Whedon than she was under BKV though, not so annoying.

Chase still pwns the entire team at runaway-ness.

Victor and Xavin were the only Runaways I didn't want to see shoved into a meat grinder feet first.

Also agreed about the 5 year old molly thing. Though I've found the cutesy crap to actually have increased since whedon took over. I know it's an act but Jesus Christ it's annoying.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
Molly is the worst Runaway 😐

Seriously.

Chase FTW.

Pft, the worst is easily Xavin.

The "guy" can't decide whether he's a hot chick or a dude.

Oh course, the worst runaways always do have a knack for getting killed off 😖hifty:

EDIT: Plus, Molly is a great character

Originally posted by Nataku8188

Name some martial arts he's studied. As a member of the United States Air Force I can guarantee that the only martial arts training you'll get in any branch of the military is on your own time. You learn how to fight, and in some jobs you learn fighting systems, but these are pretty much all just glorified brawling techniques with a few simple submissions mixed in. Because in reality, there isn't much more effective than a full on blow to the groin/face.

Originally posted by grey fox
I'm quite surprised Molly's fist didn't go clean THROUGH Frank. Would of been awesome.

Punisher would be on the ground all 'shit..medic...medic ! ' and Molly would be crying her eyes out over it (even though Frank was going to kill them because...well..he's an *******) and in the background you'd have me in the classic MJJ suit laughing and pointing.

Then the whole city explodes, we back out and it all turns out be a paining done by Issac from Heroes.

I have to say I liked this writing on the Punisher better than how Millar wrote him in Civil War and how he's written in War Journal.

Seriously, Marvel needs to stop treating Punisher like some kind of hero. Plain and simple the guy really is an assh*le

That's the thing ! I want Marvel Zombies Frank, who just killed the remaining humans because they were scum , completely ignoring the fact that they might be necessary for the human races survival.

Frank is one MEAN sonovabitch and shouldn't be afraid to gun down little children.

Originally posted by Grimm22

Seriously, Marvel needs to stop treating Punisher like some kind of hero. Plain and simple the guy really is an assh*le

Well I dont entirely agree with all his views, but maybe you should wait till your whole family gets gunned down in front of you before you judge. 😉

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Shut up woman, go mancrush on Punisher some more.

Wow, thanks for that.

Originally posted by Nataku8188

Name some martial arts he's studied. As a member of the United States Air Force I can guarantee that the only martial arts training you'll get in any branch of the military is on your own time. You learn how to fight, and in some jobs you learn fighting systems, but these are pretty much all just glorified brawling techniques with a few simple submissions mixed in. Because in reality, there isn't much more effective than a full on blow to the groin/face.

Ok here goes

http://img475.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thepunisherarmory2page222zy.jpg
"When I was in the depths of my martial arts training."

Here Frank states that he has studied various martial arts but does not specify.

http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=martial20bb.jpg
Shorin Ryu

http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=martial35rl.jpg
Chin-Na

http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=martial50rr.jpg
Uses a technique used by Korean warriors 2000 years ago.

http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=martial62go.jpg
Ninjuitsu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punisher
His styles of choice being Nash Ryu Ju Jitsu (the four-style martial art founded by his Sensei Adam Nash and the Marine Corps LINE combat system).

So thats 5 styles he has studied and im sure he knows more.

Originally posted by Nataku8188

Actions speak louder than words.

Er mate you dont listen to what im saying. When you debate with somebody you should process the information first before coming to a conclusion. You dont do this, you dont read my posts or scans properly you just skim over it and assume I dont know what im talking about.

Your the one whos been saying that The Punishers isnt a martial artist. Ive just proved you wrong, maybe you should listen more and insult less.

Originally posted by Alfheim

Frank loses to DD 7/10, but a well written Frank does not get manhandled by DD.

Considering as well that ive said that Frank loses 7/10 to DD in H2H. I dont think that means I have mancrush. No doubt you will probably just skim through this and start calling me names.

uggg punisher taking the majorty from DD in h2h is a little much let a lone 7/10

Originally posted by capt it up
uggg punisher taking the majorty from DD in h2h is a little much let a lone 7/10

Uh isnt that what I said Frank loses 7/10 to DD........ 🙁

Originally posted by Alfheim
Uh isnt that what I said Frank loses 7/10 to DD........ 🙁

Alfheim, check out his aim at the top. Apparently he wasn't very good at martial arts 😂

Seriously though, I think it's completely believable that Molly caught him by surprise. Who'd expect the little 12 year old with a cute animal hat to have super strength.

Originally posted by llagrok
Alfheim, check out his aim at the top. Apparently he wasn't very good at martial arts 😂

Originally posted by Alfheim
http://img475.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thepunisherarmory2page222zy.jpg
"When I was in the depths of my martial arts training."

Here Frank states that he has studied various martial arts but does not specify.

http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=martial20bb.jpg
Shorin Ryu

http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=martial35rl.jpg
Chin-Na

http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=martial50rr.jpg
Uses a technique used by Korean warriors 2000 years ago.

http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=martial62go.jpg
Ninjuitsu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punisher
His styles of choice being Nash Ryu Ju Jitsu (the four-style martial art founded by his Sensei Adam Nash and the Marine Corps LINE combat system).

So thats 5 styles he has studied and im sure he knows more.

Er mate you dont listen to what im saying. When you debate with somebody you should process the information first before coming to a conclusion. You dont do this, you dont read my posts or scans properly you just skim over it and assume I dont know what im talking about.

Your the one whos been saying that The Punishers isnt a martial artist. Ive just proved you wrong, maybe you should listen more and insult less.

Considering as well that ive said that Frank loses 7/10 to DD in H2H. I dont think that means I have mancrush. No doubt you will probably just skim through this and start calling me names.

I see what you're saying, I see what you post, but that doesn't make him a martial artist.

Shit, Deadpool has showings that put him on Cap's level easy, but does he regularly fight like that? Does he rely on martial arts? No. The same thing goes for Punisher.

Maybe if you had a better comprehension of what we were saying in the first place you would stop throwing shit we already know in our faces.

No shit he's studied martial arts, I asked what kind simply to see if they ever stated such. You pull out the Wiki on punisher, and then you talk about Marine fighting styles. The Marine fighting style is exactly what I said it was. It's a lot of simple strikes and submissions.

Just because you can admit someone's going to lose to someone who is obviously their superior doesn't mean you don't have a mancrush on them.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
I see what you're saying, I see what you post, but that doesn't make him a martial artist.

Yeah of course not. Hes said that hes studied martial arts in depth and uses it on a regular basis therefore that makes him NOT a martial artist. Thats makes sense. 😕

Originally posted by Nataku8188

Shit, Deadpool has showings that put him on Cap's level easy, but does he regularly fight like that? Does he rely on martial arts? No. The same thing goes for Punisher.

Right ok and Deadpool is classified as a second tier fighter despite the fact he doesnt rely on it all the time. Well done.

Originally posted by Nataku8188

Maybe if you had a better comprehension of what we were saying in the first place you would stop throwing shit we already know in our faces. No shit he's studied martial arts,

Firstly I dont listen because you dont know what you're talking about. You gave the example of Deadpool who is a second tier fighter and if you look at what you said.....

Originally posted by Nataku8188

Name some martial arts he's studied. As a member of the United States Air Force I can guarantee that the only martial arts training you'll get in any branch of the military is on your own time. You learn how to fight, and in some jobs you learn fighting systems,[B] but these are pretty much all just glorified brawling techniques with a few simple submissions mixed in. Because in reality, there isn't much more effective than a full on blow to the groin/face.
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You implied the only training he has had was in the army and he only learnt glorified brawling techniques

Originally posted by Nataku8188

I asked what kind simply to see if they ever stated such.

No you were not. Stop backpedaling, you asked because you only thought that he had only learnt basic fighting styles in the army.

Originally posted by Nataku8188

You learn how to fight, and in some jobs you learn fighting systems, but these are pretty much all just glorified brawling techniques

Originally posted by Nataku8188

You pull out the Wiki on punisher, and then you talk about Marine fighting styles. The Marine fighting style is exactly what I said it was. It's a lot of simple strikes and submissions.

This is exactly what im talking about I mentioned four other martial arts you focused on the that suits you. Hell did you even bother to read my scans? Did you see the scan where the guys says "My family have been studying Chinna for 300 years." , then Frank uses Chinna against him and kills him? Frank even says that he has studied martial arts..he says it in black and white but despite this you draw the conclusion that hes not a martial artist.

"When I was in the depths of my martial arts training." = Not a martial artist 🤨

Originally posted by Nataku8188

Just because you can admit someone's going to lose to someone who is obviously their superior doesn't mean you don't have a mancrush on them.

Dont make excuses now. Mancrush was meant in the context of fanboy. iF you paid attention instead of jumping down my thraot you would have got it.

Originally posted by Grimm22
I have to say I liked this writing on the Punisher better than how Millar wrote him in Civil War and how he's written in War Journal.

Seriously, Marvel needs to stop treating Punisher like some kind of hero. Plain and simple the guy really is an assh*le

yeah..I'll take Max punisher compared to recent crap 616 version.

Never understood how anyone could even read a title with 616 frank in it after reading max. Sure he's a dick in the max version too but Ennis balances it out by making the guys he kills even bigger assholes then he could ever be. No bank robbers who probably never killed anyone in their meta carriers no little kids who are just breaking and entering I mean real life monsters.

Originally posted by Black Adam
no little kids who are just breaking and entering I mean real life monsters.

He did what? 🙁

Punisher doesn't rely on MA, therefore he isn't primarily a martial artist.

I can study chemistry for 20 years, but work in Mcdonalds. That doesn't make my occupation a chemist, I'm still a lowly Mcdonald worker.

I hope that analogy makes sense 😬.