Spider-Man 3...Lame?
I saw the movie last night and I'd have to say it had its funny parts, but other than that the movie was kinda dull...there weren't enough fight scene's and venom was only in the movie for a short period of time which was a shame because he looked freaking awesome. There were no clues towards the end weither or not there will be anymore to the spider-man series. The movie in my opinion was kind of a let down.
it certainly wasnt lame. i think it was great.........but venom...however awesome looking...was not.
i thought that the film would suck in spite of venom but imho it actually kicks ass in spite of venom. they did a great job on him, but just crapped out on character developement and...well...VENOM. they could have just left him out and still had a movie to go with. thats what really blows
i saw it on IMAX at 3 am....kept hearing bad reviews about it so walked in with low expectations. Came out feeling pretty good, actually. Yea the plotlines were jumbled and things were rushed, but I walked away with a smile. I'd definitley watch it again...if not on the bigscreen, then bootleg d/l..hahah.
Originally posted by Schecter
it certainly wasnt lame. i think it was great.........but venom...however awesome looking...was not.i thought that the film would suck in spite of venom but imho it actually kicks ass in spite of venom. they did a great job on him, but just crapped out on character developement and...well...VENOM. they could have just left him out and still had a movie to go with. thats what really blows
I think it would have been better, if they just focused the story around Venom as the central villain.It would have given the essential time to develop his character.Hopefully Venom will return in the 4rth and make up for his lack for screentime.And maybe they will do something about his god awful voice.I'm not downing the scenes with Venom, they were actually my favorite part of the movie.I think Venom was the coolest villain in the movie even though they could have done better with him.
Originally posted by SpyCspider
i saw it on IMAX at 3 am....kept hearing bad reviews about it so walked in with low expectations. Came out feeling pretty good, actually. Yea the plotlines were jumbled and things were rushed, but I walked away with a smile. I'd definitley watch it again...if not on the bigscreen, then bootleg d/l..hahah.
Oh yea it was definitely rushed, seem like the movie just flew by. I'll wait till its out on video to see it again though. The movie just wasn't how I thought it would be; I was so hyped up for the big fight scenes and they turned out to be bland
Don't blame us for Sandman's involvement, the only reason we got that is because Raimi and Maguire have a boner for him. He took away time that could've been spent building up Brock....as well as those stupid humor scenes. If they would've taken some of those comedic parts out with the dancing and crap, and replaced that with more Brock development, the movie would have benefited. Also, why did Venom sound like a squirrel? That was so gay, as was the whole "we need to give Sandman a huge set of morals, a family, and connect him to Uncle Ben's death for no reason". Also...is it just me, or did you guys think "wtf is the molecular machine doing in the middle of nowhere and for what purpose?" That kind of just seemed like lazy writing.
I can see where the elements that I didn't like were spawned from Spider-Man 2 (ie the idea of a retarded music section) and the elements I loved were reminiscent of Spider-Man 1 (ie the more "comic book" feel to it). Overall though, I'm pleased, especially when you compare it to other comic book films out there...like X3...
Spiderman 3…Huge potential, failed to live up to it
** SPOILERS ** I saw the 12am showing last night at Galaxy theaters and let me say this; in short, it was better then Spiderman 2, but worse then Spiderman 1.
There was just too much going on in this movie for it to live up to everything. Let me start.
All the individual stories were good (in of themselves), Harry as the new Goblin was handled expertly, the Sandman was a good character and was cool, even Brock/ Venom was good despite his short screen time (and looked very cool) the problem was that telling the story with all this going on was a bad idea. Couple these villain arcs with Peter and the black suit (which was handled absolutely awfully IMO) and Peters relationship with MJ taking a downward spiral and you’ve got so much going on that there is no way short of a 3.5 hour movie that you could pull it all off.
All the villain story arcs showed enough potential to warrant they’re own movie, but IMO they should have saved Venom for another movie. The only way to actually fit this into 3 movies would have been to either disregard the Sandman arc or to have had it in Spiderman 2 along with Doc Ock. If movie 2 (at the end) had Peter finding and using the black suit then 3 could have been amazing. It could have started with the Harry part as 3 did and it could have been exactly the same as it was. Peter should have been forced to use the black suit (that say he ‘gave up on’ in 2 realizing what it does to him) to beat Harry, but when he does he starts to get pretty bad (and torments Brock like he does in 3) and then finally gets to the famous bell tower scene with Brock when he becomes Venom. The rest of the movie could be devoted to the Venom story arc and it should have had Peter losing horribly to Venom and then asking Harry for help like he does in 3 to beat him realizing that he can’t take Venom alone. This would have left it open for much better character development and explanation of which there was none in 3.
My next MAJOR issue with the movie is the horrendous handling of black suit Peter and the black suit in general. First, the mere fact that it was a ‘Suit’ was stupid enough; it should always have been on him like it is on Venom (shape shifting to different clothes etc.) Peter should have not been able to take it off like a t-shirt like he does in 3. Second, I HATED the look of black Spiderman, it was literally the Spiderman suit…but black. It should have looked like it did on Venom and closer to the Comic version of Black Spiderman, complete with the black webbing (which I did like actually). More awful then this was ‘Emo-Peter’ as I’ve chosen to call him. Peter looked and acted like a doofus with the black suit, it was actually embarrassing to watch. The movie didn’t take itself seriously enough and Dark-Peter (Emo-Peter… WTF was with the emo hair??) was like a joke when it should have been VERY dark. A good example of this is in the jazz club when the guy grabs his arm and he goes nuts, had the whole Dark-Peter part been like this, it would have been awesome. Sadly though it was handled more in line of a joke rather then something serious, this is unfortunate because it almost ruined the movie for me. This leads to my next point, the movie was way too lighthearted and filled with cheese moments.
WTF was up with the Dark-Peter jazz moment dance off thing? WHAT THE HELL??? This was the most useless and worse scene in a movie since the Matrix Reloaded Zion Cave Rave scene, it was embarrassing and it was completely ridiculous. What were they thinking when they made this?? The twist moment in Harry’s apartment, and in general the huge amount of completely stupid and useless scenes that served no purpose and took away from the film. Horrible and completely dumb.
In saying all that though the Special effects were amazing, both Sandman and Venom were outstanding looking and the fight scenes were very well done but it cant take away from the films other (many) shortcomings.
Given the timeframe they had to do the movie in they did quite a good job on shoving it all in there but it was just too much and it took away from characters that, given the right time, could have been spectacular. Now however they seem more like an afterthought which is too bad because there was so much gleaming potential that sometimes sparkled through the convoluted story, character development and outright useless and embarrassing ‘humor’ scenes that was Spiderman 3. Had they taken the film seriously, got rid of the Sandman arc (or put it in 2) and made Dark-Peter not seem like a complete cheese ball joke fest then the movie would have shined bright rather then only have small sparkle moments.
they tried to over-contrast good Peter from bad Peter. It was too black and white. Apparently, a cool smooth confident dancing Peter is "Bad" when it's actually just normal for a lot of guys. God forbid Peter actually starts resembling less of a nerd (played out by the 2nd movie) and let's loose once in a while.
At the time however, I was cracking up along with the rest of the theater at 3 am. Maybe people were drunk or too wired to care, but it seemed like the audience was just enjoying it for the comedy.
I just realized....did they forget to state "with great power comes great responsibility?" Gasp!