Wolverine versus Etrigan

Started by King Castle9 pages

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
has he ever punched someone to the moon? honestly such tactics of debating are absurd, becuase based on the same logic Thing could beat Hulk the majority through BFR.
susperman, he sucked double fist uppercut supes to the moon.

anways... etrigan isnt pulling it off with his speed logan would see it coming and hitting superman doesnt grant FTL reflex or speed.

anyone remember when Etrigan fought Blue devil?

Blue devil = Superman

Fact 🙄

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Pure Melee Wolverine gets punched to the Moon. 😐

I agree 3 times out of 10 this will happen... overall wolverine is much faster than him if you compare feats. If you use the "he tagged superman" argument well wolverine has tagged gladiator, quicksilver, north star, mimic, sentry, and the list goes on.

Etrigan strength isn't something new to him... hell his fight against savage hulk is >>>anything etrigan can dish out.

Wolverine have been punched out of orbit, punched into another country "twice" and bounced up like nothing happened.

Mele etrigan gets stomped.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
has he ever punched someone to the moon? honestly such tactics of debating are absurd, becuase based on the same logic Thing could beat Hulk the majority through BFR.

Yeah, Superman.

Except Thing is not thousands of times stronger than Hulk like Etrigan is to Wolverine, nor has he ever punched someone to the moon.

I'm not saying Etrigan is going to do that every time he fights Wolverine, just that it's possible and that should he do it Wolverine will be phucked.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yeah, Superman.

Except Thing is not thousands of times stronger than Hulk like Etrigan is to Wolverine, nor has he ever punched someone to the moon.

I'm not saying Etrigan is going to do that every time he fights Wolverine, just that it's possible and that should he do it Wolverine will be phucked.


interesting when?

strength has no baring on ability to stop bfr. So wolverine being that much weaker means nothing, because even if he had comparable strength that does not change how much he weights. Which is why such tactics of using BFR in debates is not only cop out but simply silly. Because base don such logic any heavy hitter who lands the first assault would win.

I think BFR are cop outs to be honest. Though that not to say that guy even needs it to win.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yeah, Superman.

Except Thing is not thousands of times stronger than Hulk like Etrigan is to Wolverine, nor has he ever punched someone to the moon.

I'm not saying Etrigan is going to do that every time he fights Wolverine, just that it's possible and that should he do it Wolverine will be phucked.

Let's compare speed feats from etrigan and wolverine.

Hulk is at least 3 times stronger than etrigan and wolverine does just fine against punches from him. Etrigan is getting decapitataed this match.

Etrigan.

Originally posted by carver9
north star

ORLY?

he killed him. but, he got better. so yes.

Originally posted by King Castle
he killed him. but, he got better. so yes.

and how did he do that? he was trying to tag Shadowcat, but she phased and went right through her and hit Northstar during a sneak attack. Not the best example.

It seems like anybody who is not the Juggernaut or Hulk will lose to Wolverine in melee. 🙁

I'm not joking, it isn't funny at this point. It needs to stop. I actually don't hate Wolverine and this is only hurting him...

Originally posted by -K-M-
and how did he do that? he was trying to tag Shadowcat, but she phased and went right through her and hit Northstar during a sneak attack. Not the best example.
that was not the point. his point was the faulty logic of hitting ppl with the potential and power of superspeed does not transfer the ability to the other.

Originally posted by King Castle
that was not the point. his point was the faulty logic of hitting ppl with the potential and power of superspeed does not transfer the ability to the other.

Yeah...during a sneak attack. So that's rather large context that was ignored.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
interesting when?

strength has no baring on ability to stop bfr. So wolverine being that much weaker means nothing, because even if he had comparable strength that does not change how much he weights. Which is why such tactics of using BFR in debates is not only cop out but simply silly. Because base don such logic any heavy hitter who lands the first assault would win.

I think BFR are cop outs to be honest. Though that not to say that guy even needs it to win.


Not sure.

I was addressing the gap in logic with your Thing-Hulk comparison. Which you haven't redressed. If Etrigan can bfr Superman then he can damn well bfr Wolverine.

You probably think that because that's how Wolverine loses every time to Heralds in forum battles.

Originally posted by -K-M-
and how did he do that? he was trying to tag Shadowcat, but she phased and went right through her and hit Northstar during a sneak attack. Not the best example.

How do you do that km... show up when people from alpha flight are mentioned?

Didn't they face each other numerous of times in the past?

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yeah...during a sneak attack. So that's rather large context that was ignored.
it was similar to supes getting hit by etrigan not expecting it when he went to check on etrigan who suckered punched supes..

Originally posted by King Castle
it was similar to supes getting hit by etrigan not expecting it when he went to check on etrigan who suckered punched supes..

Once again adding context, Wolverine wasn't even trying to hit Northstar his target was Shadowcat. So that's a completly different scenario.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Once again adding context, Wolverine wasn't even trying to hit Northstar his target was Shadowcat. So that's a completly different scenario.
Damn it K-M. you are giving me an aneurysm!!g_twitch

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Not sure.

I was addressing the gap in logic with your Thing-Hulk comparison. Which you haven't redressed. If Etrigan can bfr Superman then he can damn well bfr Wolverine.

You probably think that because that's how Wolverine loses every time to Heralds in forum battles.

why should I? BFR is based on wieght, being super strong does not change how much you way. Whole idea behind bfr is stupid, any heavy hitter who hits the other first auto wins. Hulk bfr supermanto the moon before, but never done so with wolverine. BFR just faulty logic and cop out. Etrigan can bfr wolverine, but also any heavy hitter shoudl also be able to bfr him. If you want to play the BFR card you als much exknolwedge BFR in every fight.

Herald don't need to bfr him to win. I think this because there cop outs in debates. Also makes debating pointless if every heavy hitter simply BFR everyone. Also think there double standards were people bring BFR only when it fits there arguement, but ignore then in all other debates.

Etrigan punching Logan to the moon? Yeah, that will work.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
why should I? BFR is based on wieght, being super strong does not change how much you way. Whole idea behind bfr is stupid, any heavy hitter who hits the other first auto wins. Hulk bfr supermanto the moon before, but never done so with wolverine. BFR just faulty logic and cop out. Etrigan can bfr wolverine, but also any heavy hitter shoudl also be able to bfr him. If you want to play the BFR card you als much exknolwedge BFR in every fight.

Herald don't need to bfr him to win. I think this because there cop outs in debates. Also makes debating pointless if every heavy hitter simply BFR everyone. Also think there double standards were people bring BFR only when it fits there arguement, but ignore then in all other debates.


In comics the extent to which an enemy gets moved by an attack is based less on weight and more on relative power levels.

It's incredibly unscientific but then we're talking about comics here. Even though Spider-Man should logically be able to punch Thor ten stories into the air it isn't going to happen because of Thor's "Super-Inertia" (what I call this phenomena). If Hulk were to punch him however...