Wolverine versus Etrigan

Started by zopzop9 pages

Omg how can two people, even rabid fanboys, think Wolverine even has a chance vs Etrigan?

As to the infamous Ba'al vs Wolverine crapfest :
http://marvel.wikia.com/Ba%27al-Hadad_%28Earth-616%29

Wolverine and Jessica Drew arrived at the castle, and Wolverine had a third encounter with Ba'al. During their fight, Ba'al found himself suddenly scared of Wolverine, but could not understand why. He had no way of knowing that Wolverine was the reincarnation of the Hand of God -- the warrior who first slew him ages ago. Wolverine stabbed at the artifact with his Adamantium claws, shattering it once again. With Ba'al's powers quickly waning, Wolverine moved in for the kill. His claws pierced Ba'al through the chest, and the impact of the blow drove both warriors out of the castle window and onto the rocks below. Wolverine rose to his feet, but Ba'al was apparently dead.

LOL, some victory. Etrigan stomps horribly.

Originally posted by zopzop
Omg how can two people, even rabid fanboys, think Wolverine even has a chance vs Etrigan?

As to the infamous Ba'al vs Wolverine crapfest :
http://marvel.wikia.com/Ba%27al-Hadad_%28Earth-616%29

LOL, some victory. Etrigan stomps horribly.


dont think a single individul said wolverine wins.

why is that a crap vest? what was the point of posting that? also sweet dude you used wiki as if that proven fact or even correct.

perhaps.

Etrtigan 10/10

don't think adamantium can cut him hes on supes level for strength & durability

He can probaly cut him, but it doesn't change the outcome, Etrigan stomps here.

Wierd becuase I dont remember him being that powerful back in the day when I read batman regularly. Remember him being mere meta human but nothing closes to superman level. Am I simply mistaken or did he get massive boosts over the years? Like wonder woman?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Wierd becuase I dont remember him being that powerful back in the day when I read batman regularly. Remember him being mere meta human but nothing closes to superman level. Am I simply mistaken or did he get massive boosts over the years? Like wonder woman?
etrigan was inexplicably upgraded in physical strength from his initial appearance.

its just how the cooking crumb crumbles.

The cookie crumbles

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Wierd becuase I dont remember him being that powerful back in the day when I read batman regularly. Remember him being mere meta human but nothing closes to superman level. Am I simply mistaken or did he get massive boosts over the years? Like wonder woman?

Idk. When Cheetah appeared in a Batman comic Batman one-shot KOed her with a punch and then subsequently restrained her with handcuffs. Ordinary handcuffs.

For story purposes (and to make Batman look good) pretty much everyone is downgraded to Meta or less for Batbooks.

Etrigan has always (or at least back to the 1980s) been fairly powerful.

I wouldn't say Wonder Woman has gotten "massive boosts" over the years, she's just gotten a lot of small ones that build up over time.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Idk. When Cheetah appeared in a Batman comic Batman one-shot KOed her with a punch and then subsequently restrained her with handcuffs. Ordinary handcuffs.

For story purposes (and to make Batman look good) pretty much everyone is downgraded to Meta or less for Batbooks.

Etrigan has always (or at least back to the 1980s) been fairly powerful.

I wouldn't say Wonder Woman has gotten "massive boosts" over the years, she's just gotten a lot of small ones that build up over time.


depends on the time frame Cheetah was not that powerful when she original was developed.

this is true

k

When Wonder Woman first came on the scene, she wasent even bullet proof, her strength was nothing closes to superman level. She could not even fly. She gotten massively boosted over the years compared to her original self, as have many characters.

In KMC everyone is Superman level except Superman.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
depends on the time frame Cheetah was not that powerful when she original was developed.

You're referring to the human Cheetah: a woman wearing a costume. I'm referring to Barbara Minerva, the Cheetah with real superpowers. In no way should Batman's punch even hurt her, let alone KO her instantly (a Batkick is another story 😛), she also shouldn't be restrained by being handcuffed to a lightpost.


When Wonder Woman first came on the scene, she wasent even bullet proof, her strength was nothing closes to superman level. She could not even fly. She gotten massively boosted over the years compared to her original self, as have many characters.

When Wonder Woman first came onto the scene Superman could juggle planets. So it's no real shame that she wasn't as strong as him.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You're referring to the human Cheetah: a woman wearing a costume. I'm referring to Barbara Minerva, the Cheetah with real superpowers. In no way should Batman's punch even hurt her, let alone KO her instantly (a Batkick is another story 😛), she also shouldn't be restrained by being handcuffed to a lightpost.

When Wonder Woman first came onto the scene Superman could juggle planets. So it's no real shame that she wasn't as strong as him.


oh ok

No i mean she did not have strength anywere near closes, I not even sure she was even 100 tonner or even closes to it. also how about the fact she could not fly or was not even bullet proof ect. those are some pretty big upgrades.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
oh ok

No i mean she did not have strength anywere near closes, I not even sure she was even 100 tonner or even closes to it. also how about the fact she could not fly or was not even bullet proof ect. those are some pretty big upgrades.


I've not read any WW comics from before the 70s, but I'm pretty sure she was always at least a low Class 100. Marston intended her to be Superman's female equal but other writers were less charitable.

Pure mele I'm giving this to wolverine...if you include powers, etrigan stomps. Please don't use the "who he fought" argument because wolverine alone have withstood assaults and have good showings against some of the most powerful beings in MU. Mele...wolveine 7/10.

Originally posted by carver9
Pure mele I'm giving this to wolverine...if you include powers, etrigan stomps. Please don't use the "who he fought" argument because wolverine alone have withstood assaults and have good showings against some of the most powerful beings in MU. Mele...wolveine 7/10.

Pure Melee Wolverine gets punched to the Moon. 😐

in the mid 90's diana was still shown to be low end 100 tonner.

she struggled with a bridge feat..

the good old days.. how i miss them. 🙁

Originally posted by King Castle
in the mid 90's diana was still shown to be low end 100 tonner.

she struggled with a bridge feat..

the good old days.. how i miss them. 🙁


A low showing does not indicate the norm. I'm pretty sure the mid nineties was the same era in which she along with MM and Superman towed the Earth.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I've not read any WW comics from before the 70s, but I'm pretty sure she was always at least a low Class 100. Marston intended her to be Superman's female equal but other writers were less charitable.

I could be mistaken, but when she first came on the scene she was vastly weaker. Remember her strength not being closes to 100 tons.

but you are right her created ment for her to be like woman superman, but much of the writers at the time wrote her other wises.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Pure Melee Wolverine gets punched to the Moon. 😐

has he ever punched someone to the moon? honestly such tactics of debating are absurd, becuase based on the same logic Thing could beat Hulk the majority through BFR.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
A low showing does not indicate the norm. I'm pretty sure the mid nineties was the same era in which she along with MM and Superman towed the Earth.
it was b4 the new established strength boost. that earth team lift was like 2000 iirc.

mid nighties she had a definite strength limit and it wasnt a low showing it was her established comic lvl. that is why i said mid nineties.