Superman and Wonder Woman team gauntlet

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Thankyou for making it totally obvious that you have comprehension problems or choose to ignore things stated in the thread. My mentioning wonderwoman speed in bracket was simply me alluding to her lack of speed in direct physical combat with other beings. In this thread it was clearly stated neither of them could use superspeed, so i fail to understand why it seems to be your main argument. As i said without speed she is NOT putting the lasso on juggernaut easily and will thus get stomped. Supes will also meet his end against the hulk because of the same reason( no speed). Is that so hard to understand 😕

Without speed she simply uses the lasso for what it is, a lasso and tosses it around Juggernauts big slow ass. Even without super speed, both of them are still faster than the big lumbering brutes that are the Hulk and Juggernaut. Once the lasso TOUCHES Juggernaut, he's rendered inert. You have failed your exam. Go study DC characters more. The Hulk and Lobo Are quite interchangeable. Except Lobo is a far better fighter. Superman simply punches Hulk off world like he did Lobo. Next.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Without speed she simply uses the lasso for what it is, a lasso and tosses it around Juggernauts big slow ass. Even without super speed, both of them are still faster than the big lumbering brutes that are the Hulk and Juggernaut. Once the lasso TOUCHES Juggernaut, he's rendered inert. You have failed your exam. Go study DC characters more. The Hulk and Lobo Are quite interchangeable. Except Lobo is a far better fighter. Superman simply punches Hulk off world like he did Lobo. Next.

im actually not sure the lasso will work on juggs, can it control his mind if hes wearing the helmet?

Originally posted by jalek moye
im actually not sure the lasso will work on juggs, can it control his mind if hes wearing the helmet?

It's more than a mind control thing. It's a will power thing too. As soon as it touches you, your will is subject to wondy's. If you are in a mental trap, then it instantly brings you out. It is an amazing plot device.

Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
stopped at 2

btw, would team 1 actually make supes stronger?

Maybe. You sure got me thinking there.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Without speed she simply uses the lasso for what it is, a lasso and tosses it around Juggernauts big slow ass. Even without super speed, both of them are still faster than the big lumbering brutes that are the Hulk and Juggernaut. Once the lasso TOUCHES Juggernaut, he's rendered inert. You have failed your exam. Go study DC characters more. The Hulk and Lobo Are quite interchangeable. Except Lobo is a far 😂 😂 better fighter. Superman simply punches Hulk off world like he did Lobo. Next.

You are simply ridiculous and you have proven it time and time again and you have decided to make it clear YET AGAIN!!. How can you prove that wonderwomans lasso can stop the juggernaut?
Both are enchanted and juggeranuts enchantment staes that nothing can stop him. The only way for wonderwoman to stop him would be if her lassos enchantment supercedes that of Juggernaut. And now about the speed thing superman and wonderwoman will be WITHOUT there superspeed. Can u evn read? What proof do u have that superman is faster than the hulk without his superspeed? The hulk speed and refelxes are certainly superior to that of normal humans and can be labeled SUPERHUMAN in there own right. How can supermans speed be greater than the speed of the hulk if it is NO LONGER SUPERSPEED? 😂 The same goes for wonderwoman. As ive said b4 u hardly read what u write b4 u post. As for the hulk lobo thing, it is obvious there dat u are trying to b as ridiculous as possible. You say that hulk and lobo are interchangeable and superman and use that to justify ur reasons for superman being able to punch him to the moon or wherever. You make it sound like that is one of supermans powers: the ability to punch people into space. Yet u forget that he was able to do that simply because of his strength and Lobos relative weight. Though this in reality makes sense it is seriously flawed comic wise. If we are to use such logic evn the thing should be able to punch hulk into space. Heck in any fight between Class 100s the first person to punch will be the winner because they all have the strength to send each other into orbit. Unfortunately for you at least in Marvel this does not happen. You know why? Because Class 100 level characters are able to use their strength to stop themselves from being hit into orbit after evry punch. You say hulk and lobo are interchangeable( which they are not)? Well superman and just about evry other class 100 character are interchangeable in the sense that they all have the strength to send another Class 100 into orbit. But the hulk has bin punched REPEATEDLY by numerous class 100+ charcters WITHOUT being put into orbit. Superman punching him off world is stupid in this scenario evn for you 😆. Superman goes down to hulk as he will have to slug it out to take hulk out and that will be the end for him. Heck ive not evn considered Namor and Ms Marvel in this fight. Superman and wonderwoman stand little or no chance at all.

Funny how u talk about exams but from your level of reasoning i wonder if uve past one in in ur entire LIFE. 😂

Originally posted by fangirl101
It's more than a mind control thing. It's a will power thing too. As soon as it touches you, your will is subject to wondy's. If you are in a mental trap, then it instantly brings you out. It is an amazing plot device.

Other people have been able to resist it and force fields have stopped it, it's not like it's the most powerful object in all of creation and instantly trumps every power of any other character, with with all dissenting opinion banned. There's nothing to say it would work at all on Juggernaut or even touch him given his force field and resistance to high level magic. Some things in these fights can be argued with a bit of logic involved but this one just comes down to one opinion against another.

But it doesn't say no BFR so with that the duo might make it to 5.

Can Supes hurt the Hulk with Heat Vision?

Originally posted by ultimatethor
You are simply ridiculous and you have proven it time and time again and you have decided to make it clear YET AGAIN!!. How can you prove that wonderwomans lasso can stop the juggernaut?
Both are enchanted and juggeranuts enchantment staes that nothing can stop him. The only way for wonderwoman to stop him would be if her lassos enchantment supercedes that of Juggernaut. And now about the speed thing superman and wonderwoman will be WITHOUT there superspeed. Can u evn read? What proof do u have that superman is faster than the hulk without his superspeed? The hulk speed and refelxes are certainly superior to that of normal humans and can be labeled SUPERHUMAN in there own right. How can supermans speed be greater than the speed of the hulk if it is NO LONGER SUPERSPEED? 😂 The same goes for wonderwoman. As ive said b4 u hardly read what u write b4 u post. As for the hulk lobo thing, it is obvious there dat u are trying to b as ridiculous as possible. You say that hulk and lobo are interchangeable and superman and use that to justify ur reasons for superman being able to punch him to the moon or wherever. You make it sound like that is one of supermans powers: the ability to punch people into space. Yet u forget that he was able to do that simply because of his strength and Lobos relative weight. Though this in reality makes sense it is seriously flawed comic wise. If we are to use such logic evn the thing should be able to punch hulk into space. Heck in any fight between Class 100s the first person to punch will be the winner because they all have the strength to send each other into orbit. Unfortunately for you at least in Marvel this does not happen. You know why? Because Class 100 level characters are able to use their strength to stop themselves from being hit into orbit after evry punch. You say hulk and lobo are interchangeable( which they are not)? Well superman and just about evry other class 100 character are interchangeable in the sense that they all have the strength to send another Class 100 into orbit. But the hulk has bin punched REPEATEDLY by numerous class 100+ charcters WITHOUT being put into orbit. Superman punching him off world is stupid in this scenario evn for you 😆. Superman goes down to hulk as he will have to slug it out to take hulk out and that will be the end for him. Heck ive not evn considered Namor and Ms Marvel in this fight. Superman and wonderwoman stand little or no chance at all.

Funny how u talk about exams but from your level of reasoning i wonder if uve past one in in ur entire LIFE. 😂

Originally posted by Placidity
Can Supes hurt the Hulk with Heat Vision?

No. Hulk's Durability and Regen counter any effects. It's even been been tried by Gladiator's whos HV is hotter than the core of our sun.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
No. Hulk's Durability and Regen counter any effects. It's even been been tried by Gladiator's whos HV is hotter than the core of our sun.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Superman's Heat vision has powered the engines of warworld. And One Shotted Despero. And Stalemated the Omega beams. I'd say his heat vision is>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gladiator's.

hulk is immune to heat damge. plus he has deadpool level regen so it really wouldnt matter anyway

Originally posted by jalek moye
hulk is immune to heat damge. plus he has deadpool level regen so it really wouldnt matter anyway

And I'm just sure he could just survive the Omega Beams too, because, you know, he's just ****ing unbeatable. 🙁

Originally posted by fangirl101
And I'm just sure he could just survive the Omega Beams too, because, you know, he's just ****ing unbeatable. 🙁

supermans heat vision doesnt work because its mostly heat

Originally posted by jalek moye
hulk is immune to heat damge. plus he has deadpool level regen so it really wouldnt matter anyway

Hulk can still be KOed, that's enough for the team to win.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Hulk can still be KOed, that's enough for the team to win.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Bias Much. Other Class 100 characters haven't punched anyone off world as Superman has as a battle tactic have they? And Yes Wonder Woman's Lasso Can Stop the Juggernaut. Unless you can prove that he's going to break it or over come it's enchantment. It has stopped Mightier beings than he.

Frankly your inability to reason baffles me. You calling me biased is just laughable. SS has punched beings across continents. Onslaught has also done the same. Yet hulk has taken punches from both WITHOUT travelling across the world. Why do you think that is? IT IS BECAUSE THE HULK AND OTHER CLASS 100 CHARCTERS ARE ABLE TO USE THERE IMMENSE STRENGTH TO STOP THEMSELVES FROM FLYING SO FAR!!! As I said going by normal logic ANY class hundred Charcter can use this battle tactic of punching people into orbit or across the world. Have you ever noticed the difference between when hulk punches Luke cage and when hulk punches Juggernaut? When he punches jugs even with jugs relative weight, jugs is not sent flying miles away but when hulk punches luke cage he gets launched. Why do you think this is? Considering both of their relative weights BOTH of them should be sent miles away. THE REASON is because of their strength level. Jugs who is near hulks strength level does NOT get launched because he has the strength to prevent it. Luke cage on the other hand does not have the strength to do so. GET IT?????????? Superman might have punched Lobo off world but he has fought many other Class 100s of similar weight and size, hitting them with similar punches without them without them going off world. Now unless you can somehow prove that superman has a sort of special skill which enables him to punch people off the planet( I wud not put it past u to actually try) then u should drop the issue. He did it in that instance bcuz it was required of the story, nothing more.

Next for WW to stop juggernaut would mean that her lassos enchantment
supercedes that of juggernaut. Can u prove that? If not there is no basis for saying she can stop him. Which of the mightier beings than jugs that her lasso has stopped have a magical enchantment that makes them unstoppable? She is NOT hurting/stopping him at all.

Originally posted by fangirl101
And I'm just sure he could just survive the Omega Beams too, because, you know, he's just ****ing unbeatable. 🙁

For heavens sake stop overrating supes heat vision, it is not evn comparbale to the Omega beams and evn u know that. Supes is not taking down WWH with heatvision.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Frankly your inability to reason baffles me. You calling me biased is just laughable. SS has punched beings across continents. Onslaught has also done the same. Yet hulk has taken punches from both WITHOUT travelling across the world. Why do you think that is? IT IS BECAUSE THE HULK AND OTHER CLASS 100 CHARCTERS ARE ABLE TO USE THERE IMMENSE STRENGTH TO STOP THEMSELVES FROM FLYING SO FAR!!! As I said going by normal logic ANY class hundred Charcter can use this battle tactic of punching people into orbit or across the world. Have you ever noticed the difference between when hulk punches Luke cage and when hulk punches Juggernaut? When he punches jugs even with jugs relative weight, jugs is not sent flying miles away but when hulk punches luke cage he gets launched. Why do you think this is? Considering both of their relative weights BOTH of them should be sent miles away. THE REASON is because of their strength level. Jugs who is near hulks strength level does NOT get launched because he has the strength to prevent it. Luke cage on the other hand does not have the strength to do so. GET IT?????????? Superman might have punched Lobo off world but he has fought many other Class 100s of similar weight and size, hitting them with similar punches without them without them going off world. Now unless you can somehow prove that superman has a sort of special skill which enables him to punch people off the planet( I wud not put it past u to actually try) then u should drop the issue. He did it in that instance bcuz it was required of the story, nothing more.

Next for WW to stop juggernaut would mean that her lassos enchantment
supercedes that of juggernaut. Can u prove that? If not there is no basis for saying she can stop him. Which of the mightier beings than jugs that her lasso has stopped have a magical enchantment that makes them unstoppable? She is NOT hurting/stopping him at all.

You obviously don't read Wondy Much. Her lasso has pwned Hectate who had a measure of ultimate power. It has pwned the grand master. It has also immobilized Amazo. All of whom are greater than Juggy.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Juggernaut is rendered immobile with the lasso. Wondy takes out Namor and ms. marvel. Superman kils hulk.

WW wont get a chance to hit juggy with the lasso they will be excpecting that. And namor is alot stronger then you give him credit. nah the 4 on 2 is to much without superspeed it aint happening.

Originally posted by zeel
WW wont get a chance to hit juggy with the lasso they will be excpecting that. And namor is alot stronger then you give him credit. nah the 4 on 2 is to much without superspeed it aint happening.

Wonder Woman is more skilled than everyone on Team 2. She alone has taken on an entire island of soldiers all with her level of strength and durability. I didn't see her using superspeed, but rather agility, and skill. A well placed Blow to namor would take him out quickly. Superman would have to bfr the hulk and juggs. maybe t-vo one of them.