King vs Adon

Originally posted by P-Geyser
In your opinion now tell me, since you seem to have such a problem with her being placed on par with Joe for example, what has Joe done? I like the guy as well..yeah he defeated Hwa Jai. I think King would also.

That's nice that you think King could beat her, but she hasn't so how can you use that in an argument? Joe was with Terry in his crusade through out south town, and that alone gives him more credibality than her in versus. Not to mention he's a Muay Thai Champion while she's not even supposed to be in that timeline.

Not to mention she's been placed above: Chun-li and Adon. . .

Originally posted by P-Geyser
That's really classic... oh man oh man(claps) such an authour you are. You spew just as much B.S. because you state how I accused you of saying that King was overrated due to the fact that you dont like her. When I said that you obiviosly dont like her so I assume that is the reason you said it.

Same difference, It's obvious that you were implying my claim was related to my opinion of king.

Now you still haven't cleard this up, the reason why your going so hard to defend her is because you do like her. So, it still comes down to favoritism, just not on my part.

Originally posted by P-Geyser

By the way how the hell did I call Remy out? you make it sound like I screamed "Hey Remy blah blah blah!" when I just stated that his post was meaningless so please.

Originally posted by P-Geyser

Also how am I having a titi attack as you so like to claim. You stated your opinion, I asked why is that, and here we are... I would assume you said that is because I use the dreaded CUSS words... could be wrong.

Nope, it's because you make fakse accusations and made Red herrings in your argument.

emp and PG. take it easy you guys, haven't seen that many f words lined up since Undisputed the movie.

So far: 2D-Master, Sado, You, Brainchild, people place her above: Blue mary, Adon, Chun-li, Joe Hagashi. . . I've never ever seen her in a versus where she loses.
All those people I named frequent this board, She's overrated

~Sado

Yeah, I just got really upset because I saw the "F" word. . .

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
That's nice that you think King could beat her, but she hasn't so how can you use that in an argument? Joe was with Terry in his crusade through out south town, and that alone gives him more credibality than her in versus. Not to mention he's a Muay Thai Champion while she's not even supposed to be in that timeline.

Not to mention she's been placed above: Chun-li and Adon. . .

It's like ring around the roseys with you. Joe is a Muay Thai champ as WE AGREED, but King would have been the Muay Thai champ as well had she not been kicked out of the Muay Thai tournament. King also helped Ryo in his crusade, and no one has really placed her above Chun-Li and Adon just because some of us state we think she would win and is on par with them, you seem to have a problem with that. By the way Hwa Jai is a dude.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Same difference, It's obvious that you were implying my claim was related to my opinion of king.

Now you still haven't cleard this up, the reason why your going so hard to defend her is because you do like her. So, it still comes down to favoritism, just not on my part.

Though it's not as if I came right out and accused you on hand of saying you think she is overrated, because you don't like her. I dig Chun -Li but I think King wins in my opinion and I as I told you, I like Joe and I have no problem with Adon so why is that so hard to understand?! so all of that favoritism jazz is here say.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
You wouldn't have said jack if he said something about say Tekken, but as long as it's someone you like that's being put on the spot you'll do whatever it takes to defend him. So, basically King is not overrated, because you like her.

I actually like Tekken characters, but I do not post in the Tekken vs threads and that whole statement is utter ridiculousness. So in other words if I defend a character I like, then it's obviously wrong. That last part is mind boggling, cause now if Emperar Ashtar says that King is overrated, then she must be.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Nope, it's because you make fakse accusations and made Red herrings in your argument.

Again total ridiculousness with your fake accusations, because I did not right out accuse YOU of stating she was overrated because you don't like her.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
It's like ring around the roseys with you. Joe is a Muay Thai champ as WE AGREED, but King would have been the Muay Thai champ as well had she not been kicked out of the Muay Thai tournament.

Lord, you can't say she would have become champion if she never fought the guy in the first place. That doesn't make any sense what so ever. Also, that event doesn't make any sense in the canon , unless that was an old king from AOF otherwise I'm not taking it.

Originally posted by P-Geyser

King also helped Ryo in his crusade, and no one has really placed her above Chun-Li and Adon just because some of us state we think she would win and is on par with them, you seem to have a problem with that. By the way Hwa Jai is a dude.

I just quoted four guys placing her as a victor over Chun li despite the fact she has no feats on par. King never fought Hwa Jai not to mention that it contradicts canon, So, why do you insist on bringing that up as an argument?

This is exactly why were going in circles. . .

Originally posted by P-Geyser

Though it's not as if I came right out and accused you on hand of saying you think she is overrated, because you don't like her.

Yeah, you did, you associated my opinion of kings fights to my opinion of her as a character right of the bat.

Originally posted by P-Geyser

I dig Chun -Li but I think King wins in my opinion and I as I told you, I like Joe and I have no problem with Adon so why is that so hard to understand?! so all of that favoritism jazz is here say.

I never claimed you hated them, enough with the red herrings.

This all started because You called me out, don't get it twisted now.

Originally posted by P-Geyser

I actually like Tekken characters, but I do not post in the Tekken vs threads and that whole statement is utter ridiculousness. So in other words if I defend a character I like, then it's obviously wrong. That last part is mind boggling, cause now if Emperar Ashtar says that King is overrated, then she must be.

Yo, stop putting words in my mouth, I said from the start that it was my opinion. I never argued it as a fact, and Regardless of if you like Tekken or not, the point is you would not have came posting in defense of a Tekken character like you did with King.

Which proves my point, King isn't overrated because you favor her.

Originally posted by P-Geyser

Again total ridiculousness with your fake accusations, because I did not right out accuse YOU of stating she was overrated because you don't like her.

Yes, you did and I can quote you.

Originally posted by Sado22
[B]emp and PG. take it easy you guys, haven't seen that many f words lined up since Undisputed the movie.

I dont like when people tell me not to pull B.S. it pisses me off.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I dont like when people tell me not to pull B.S. it pisses me off.

Like when you pull red herrings, adn false accusations, right?

This was your first response after I claimed King was overrated:

Originally posted by P-Geyser
She is overrated because of that?!...it's obvious you don't like her so I assume thats why you state she is overrated.

Yeah, who's the bullshitter now?

So people, what puts King over Chun Li anyway?

Please people, lets try and keep this cool.

I dont necessarily agree shes over Chun- Li. King has that hard time she gave Ryo, but from what i know (little anyway) Chun-li probably gave a hard time against certifiable treats as well.

Hum, now that im talking about it...who did she gave a hard time?

No one, she fought well against Gen and Urien . . . That's good enugh for me.

No one really knows if she actually loss to Urein. I went to Kikoken.com and it says she won. I don't really believe it but ya never know.

She didn't beat him down, she just impressed him.

Then that means he had a good fight and Urien is almost as good as Gill.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Lord, you can't say she would have become champion if she never fought the guy in the first place. That doesn't make any sense what so ever. Also, that event doesn't make any sense in the canon , unless that was an old king from AOF otherwise I'm not taking it.

I could care less if you take it or not. Same character whether you approve or not. The point I was trying to make is, that Kings skills as a Muay Thai fighter could put her on par with Joe since you already stated Joe is already a Muay Thai champ and I was stating she could hang because she would have been a champ as well due to being kicked out of the Muay Thai tournament.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I just quoted four guys placing her as a victor over Chun li despite the fact she has no feats on par. King never fought Hwa Jai not to mention that it contradicts canon, So, why do you insist on bringing that up as an argument?

This is exactly why were going in circles. . .

I was using Hwa Jai as one of Joe's feats to becoming the Champ. Since we were talking about why King should be put on par with Joe and I believe I mentioned that one time.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Yeah, you did, you associated my opinion of kings fights to my opinion of her as a character right of the bat.

Though you never stated it was your opinion, you just came out and said she is overrated because some of the posters think she can deafeat Chun-Li, Adon and Joe. As I keep telling you time and time again, I did not call you out directly stating of her being overrated because of disliking her. I assumed thats why you said it not directly stating thats why you think that way.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I never claimed you hated them, enough with the red herrings.

This all started because You called me out, don't get it twisted now.

Dont get it twisted my A$$. I just asked how could she be overrated because YOU SAID SO. Though you claimed I choosed King over the other characters, because I play favortism and like her better which is utter nonsense.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Yo, stop putting words in my mouth, I said from the start that it was my opinion. I never argued it as a fact, and Regardless of if you like Tekken or not, the point is you would not have came posting in defense of a Tekken character like you did with King.

Which proves my point, King isn't overrated because you favor her.

Thats funny I have never seen you state, that it was YOUR OPINION. If you did please do show me, and all of this can cease. I stated that it was MY OPINION on King's vs matches. Though you somehow make it seem she is overrated as "actual fact". I dont think she is overrated, though I do not go on blasting she is not as you seem to say that she is. Even I said Iori is overrated by that's my opinion.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Yes, you did and I can quote you.

I will make it easy for you.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
She is overrated because of that?!...it's obvious you don't like her so I assume thats why you state she is overrated.

I could of said "She is overrated because of that?!...you dont like her so that's the reason why you state she is overrated. That would have been "calling you out directly"

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I could care less if you take it or not. Same character whether you approve or not.

Different timeline, therefore it isn't canon.

Originally posted by P-Geyser

The point I was trying to make is, that Kings skills as a Muay Thai fighter could put her on par with Joe since you already stated Joe is already a Muay Thai champ and I was stating she could hang because she would have been a champ as well due to being kicked out of the Muay Thai tournament.

How do you know she wouldn't lose if she never even fought the guy, who on God's green earth did you deduce that ?

Unless, your a psychic, I don't even see how you can draw a conclusion soley on conjecture. She never fought him, Yet, your using a hypothetical fight as evidence of King being on par with Joe Hagashi?!

Do you realise how non-sensicle that is?

Originally posted by P-Geyser

Though you never stated it was your opinion, you just came out and said she is overrated because some of the posters think she can deafeat Chun-Li, Adon and Joe. As I keep telling you time and time again, I did not call you out directly stating of her being overrated because of disliking her. I assumed thats why you said it not directly stating thats why you think that way.

And, I keep repeating that you did. The implications are the same regardless of how you word it. Wether you say: "King is only overrated because I dislike her" or " King is overrated, I'm assuming you dislike her"

The implications are the same I.E.:My opinion of king as a chracter is tied to my opinion to her rank in versus. That claim is BS, and I'm calling you on it.

Originally posted by P-Geyser

Dont get it twisted my A$$. I just asked how could she be overrated because YOU SAID SO. Though you claimed I choosed King over the other characters, because I play favortism and like her better which is utter nonsense.

Nonsense my asss , it's the cold blooded truth. Youn would have not posted shit if I said Chun-li was overrated, not to mention that accusation you made about me not liking King and her ranking. Plus all those "Red Herrings" you pull. . .

Originally posted by P-Geyser

Thats funny I have never seen you state, that it was YOUR OPINION. If you did please do show me, and all of this can cease. I stated that it was MY OPINION on King's vs matches. Though you somehow make it seem she is overrated as "actual fact". I dont think she is overrated, though I do not go on blasting she is not as you seem to say that she is. Even I said Iori is overrated by that's my opinion.

ORLY?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
She's overrated because she hasn't lost one match, my feelings of her are irrelevant to my opinion on matches.

If that's not implying an opinion than your worst than I thought.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Like when you pull red herrings, adn false accusations, right?

Yeah, who's the bullshitter now?

Look I dont give a f**k with what you say. You keep claiming I called you OUT when I asked why is she overrated! I used the f -word first, but then you start with your dont pull B.S. garbage on me and making accusations of your own stating I choose King and favor her over other characters thats why I come to defense garbage when that is not the f**king case!

Originally posted by P-Geyser

I could of said "She is overrated because of that?!...you dont like her so that's the reason why you state she is overrated. That would have been "calling you out directly"

Regrdless, the implications are the same no matter how it's worded. Growm some balls if your going to call me out. Because it's obvious what you were getting at when you posted that.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Look I dont give a f**k with what you say.

If you didn't give a shit, you would not respond.

Originally posted by P-Geyser

You keep claiming I called you OUT when I asked why is she overrated!

You did, but it seems you lack the gonads to admitt it.

Originally posted by P-Geyser

I used the f -word first, but then you start with your dont pull B.S. garbage on me and making accusations of your own stating I choose King and favor her over other characters thats why I come to defense garbage when that is not the f**king case!

B.S., like the Red Herrings you pulled or the fact your trying to make it seem that you didn't call me out.

The implications behind that post is obvious, you just keep ignoring it though.

I dont necessarily agree shes over Chun- Li. King has that hard time she gave Ryo, but from what i know (little anyway) Chun-li probably gave a hard time against certifiable treats as well.
Hum, now that im talking about it...who did she gave a hard time?

Urien and Chunli wasn't a fight to the finish. Urien was not even fighting her seriously. he was just testing her. much like how Akuma was testing Ryu. if he were serious, he would have wiped the floor with her. not saying its not impressive though. Though I would say that King, under similar circumstances, would do the same.

King and Chunli is a DRAW as far as I go.

~Sado

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Regrdless, the implications are the same no matter how it's worded. Growm some balls if your going to call me out. Because it's obvious what you were getting at when you posted that.

You mean Grown not Growm so I called YOU OUT because I asked you why is she overrated? so now everyone beware when asking Emperor Ashatar something or assume he said something, because you are calling him out.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
If you didn't give a shit, you would not respond.

I give you that one UNFORTUNATELY.

[i]Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
You did, but it seems you lack the gonads to admitt it.

Lack Gonads ....yeah pretty clever one there Ashtar puts you right at the top.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
B.S., like the Red Herrings you pulled or the fact your trying to make it seem that you didn't call me out.

The implications behind that post is obvious, you just keep ignoring it though.

Ignoring what?! I should just come out and say "ok Emperar Ashtar you said King is Overrated....now I am calling you out"

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
If that's not implying an opinion than your worst than I thought.

You mean worse. Okay Ashtar I give you that just skimmed past it. Though when you first stated about King being overrated, you never mentioned it was your opinion till I asked you.

Originally posted by Sado22
King and Chunli is probably the best shemale..err...female fight in the videogame world. both are known for their kicks, both have fought on par with some of the toughest guys of their series. it really would be a good fight.

Urien and Chunli wasn't a fight to the finish. Urien was not even fighting her seriously. he was just testing her. much like how Akuma was testing Ryu. if he were serious, he would have wiped the floor with her. not saying its not impressive though. Though I would say that King, under similar circumstances, would do the same.

King and Chunli is a DRAW as far as I go.

~Sado

You say it's a draw sado. Though special powers aside and it came down to just martial arts do you still think it will be a draw?