Karate Kid (Pre - Crisis) vs. Champion

No power gem

Who wins?

Champion wins via his massive strength durability advantage.

Yes...because Strength and durability advantages worked so well against Karate Kid.....

They would matter when fighting someone who's arguably just as good as KK.

I think it would help when you consider Champion is also an Elder of the Universe who has spent eons studying virtually every martial art in the Galaxy.

But thats just me...

Despite no actual showing that indicates it.

Specially since he was basically one-shotted by drax and lost to She-hulk,evidently he is nowhere near KK...

Champions bio doesn't compare to KK's actual showings.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Despite no actual showing that indicates it.

Specially since he was basically one-shotted by drax and lost to She-hulk,evidently he is nowhere near KK...

She hulk was PIS!

But yeah, Champion is another character who is built up to be uber but then gets stomped rather too easily.

Way to go MARVEL!

Originally posted by Hercules
She hulk was PIS!

But yeah, Champion is another character who is built up to be uber but then gets stomped rather too easily.

Way to go MARVEL!

Champion is Physically the most perfect of Marvel's characters

Champion in a curbstomp

So do you think Champion could take on PC Superboy?

Originally posted by Juntai
Champions bio doesn't compare to KK's actual showings.

co-sign.

This guy took on PC Superboy....Champion can't even handle She-Hulk.
Besides KK's a walking plot device.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
So do you think Champion could take on PC Superboy?

And whip his ass, unlike KK who merely redirected his attacks.

PS: Champion jobs to She Hulk
Karate Kid (pre-crisis since he's soo much more uber) gets pawned by Major Disaster.

I CAN DO IT TOO

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
And whip his ass, unlike KK who merely redirected his attacks.

How so? Karate Kid was able to pawn him using his Karate Skills, why couldn't someone of caparable skill who's roughly 1,000,000x's stronger do it?

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
How so? Karate Kid was able to pawn him using his Karate Skills, why couldn't someone of caparable skill who's roughly 1,000,000x's stronger do it?

Champion's skills couldn't overcome She Hulk when he didn't have the power gem. Similar stipulations to the thread.

Strength isn't going to make the difference of putting Champion over Superboy because PC Superboy is still stronger than him by a definitive longshot without the powergem. They aren't even in a similar league in fact.

Originally posted by Juntai
Karate Kid's skills are better than Champions, that's why.

Champion's skills couldn't overcome She Hulk when he didn't have the power gem. Similar stipulations to the thread.

Strength isn't going to make the difference of putting Champion over Superboy because PC Superboy is still stronger than him by a definitive longshot without the powergem. They aren't even in a similar league in fact.

That's a low showing. Why not post the part where he ripped through every other one of Earth's champions?

If we go by low showings then

KK has been shown to struggle against multiple MA's in his book (precrisis with none having nearly as impressive feats and showings as him) and in fact barely scraped by in a particular showing thanks to being "good minded."

Besides Champion, unlike KK, fights like a brute. He just attempts to overpower his opponents through sheer strength, and not skill. That's the main difference between them. KK lacks the strength to tango with PC Supes Jr., but his skills allow him the oportunity to look for weak points in Superboy's bioaura.

When has Champion done something like this to backup his so called uber skills?

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
That's a low showing. Why not post the part where he ripped through every other one of Earth's champions?