is thier any one in dc as powerful as pretcon beyonder?

Originally posted by guy222
IMO, Spectre is above Beyonder

DC Brothers are also. Before it turns ulgy, anyone can pm if they disagree

Guy222

All have far greater on panel feats than Beyonder. I agree. 🙂

He was all talk no action. Sounds oddly familiar 😖hifty:

Anyways, thats enough for tonight. Comics to read and an early start to look forward to.

Nitte nite!! 😱

actually beyonder released power hundreds of millions of times greater then the combined power of the multiverse.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The argument is over whether it was 616 Death or an imaginary Multi-Death never acknowledged in written statement or conclusively through artistic depiction. Whether Beyonder got depowered through retcon or not is irrelevant when the focus is on Death. Deaths status never changed and as such as highlighted by the 616 bio and the fact that Beyonder within a 616 comic, within the 616 universe says hes going to oppose the universes abstracts, your argument really doesn’t hold up well. In fact it’s officially disregarded. Tough break.

Same old bull shit 😂

Everyone already saw the actual Scans from the actual Comic Book from 1985.

Not your Bio from 2006 that defines the events that apply to a RETCONNED Beyonder.

And I must say,

even for a RETCONNED Beyonder,

not bad,

Post-Retcon Beyonder in the 2006 Bio of Death,

is given credit for erasing Death from the 616 Universe,

like I said, not bad for a Cube Being.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Whenever you mention the LT incident which you weren’t a member for and which someone from around the time discounted

Keep on dreaming that King Kandy "vouched" for your calculated fallacy,

you consciously and purposely tried to fool the onlookers with carefully cropped scans.

You're the only one here with a history of Fabricating scans.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Heres a choice quote that sums it all up:

"I'm a Fraud?"

I told you when you step over the line,

I'll post the EVIDENCE of your attempt at Fooling KMC members.

This is definitely the biggest BETRAYAL of trust ever committed on KMC forums by Galactic Storm

Read his post so you can see his deliberate intention:

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I forgot to mention how Xmen Forever clearly depicts how one wielding the phoenix power becomes supreme over creation. With enough power to humble LT even:

He CUT OUT the STRANGER from the Scan

to make it appear as though they are bowing to JEAN.

The REAL Scan, without Fabrication:

Originally posted by Mider999
actually beyonder released power hundreds of millions of times greater then the combined power of the multiverse.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
So any comments regarding how Beyonder has been retconned are highly irrelevant as the retcon to Beyonder never saw a retcon to Death. She was universal back then, she’s universal now, hence the 616 bio referencing the instant.

If you think anyone is taking you serious, your seriously confusing yourself.

You're the only hater that has the nerve to say Beyonder erased 616 Death and nothing more.

That in itself,

makes you look like a biased, agenda minded individual full of intransigence because of an overwhelming fascination with being right when completely and utterly Wrong.

Pre-Retcon Beyonder erased the Totality of Death

(the Concept of Death in all the Multiverse)

Death is ERASED across The Entire Multiverse

You want to twist this to mean something else,

go right ahead.

Same ol, same ol,

we're all used to it. 🙄

Beyonder thought he didn't have enough power to re-create Death:

"The only way to do that (bring back Death) would be by Killing something, and that's even beyond my power now"

But Dave clears his mind by saying:

"I can't believe that, You STILL have more power than all of the mighty combined, there Must be a way"

Now Beyonder gains confidence and says:

"I suppose I could Try"

This is where one can misinterpret:

"Maybe if someone, some Sentient Creature were Willing"

Dave interrupts him and asks:

"Willing to Die?"

Beyonder responds:

"Worse ... to Become Death" (so it's NOT willing to die)

Beyonder goes on to say:

"In a manner of speaking (figuratively)

for from the first Death,

It's grim spectre would rise again"

So what does this tell you?

That something Sentient has to Die,

in order for the Concept of Death to be a part of Reality again.

But now it takes a power capable of killing, when there is No Concept of Death,

Molecule Man clearly said,

"ALL the Powers in the Multiverse TOGETHER CAN'T Kill something to get it started again"

Now Beyonder shines: (and Re-Creates the Multiversal Concept of Death Anew)

Trying to down play the Beyonder's feats is folly.

when did MM archieve omniscience???

"Worse ... to Become Death" (so it's NOT willing to die)

No but it is the willing to become death and to become death you must die, so basically it is the willing to make the ultimate sacrifice to die.

Won't say anything more will leave it to you two.

Originally posted by Utrigita
when did MM archieve omniscience???

MM was the most powerful being in the Multiverse next to the Beyonder,

he was more powerful than the rest of the Multiverse combined,

So if he couldn't kill that flower, no one could,

this is probably why he made that statement.

Originally posted by Utrigita
"Worse ... to Become Death" (so it's NOT willing to die)

No but it is the willing to become death and to become death you must die, so basically it is the willing to make the ultimate sacrifice to die.

I would agree with you had Beyonder not struggled for a moment,

if Dave's willingness would have played a part in Death's re-creation,

Beyonder would have Remade Death in an instant.

Instead it took him like 2 seconds.

But aside from that,

had Beyonder not been powerful enough to Kill Dave, (willing or not)

Death would have never been re-created.

ore perhaps Beyonder open up a bit for those powers that he actually had put restrictions on himself to use isn't that possible that he at that current state used a large portion of his own powers to erase death but to recreate would mean a possibly equal amount and those energy sources that he drew on he open them up a bit

(hoping that maked sense)

Ultimator would own him....

As would GEB.

Originally posted by Utrigita
ore perhaps Beyonder open up a bit for those powers that he actually had put restrictions on himself to use isn't that possible that he at that current state used a large portion of his own powers to erase death but to recreate would mean a possibly equal amount and those energy sources that he drew on he open them up a bit

(hoping that maked sense)

Actually this makes sense, and it's very possible.

I can accept that. 🙂

like i mentioned when he died he released power that equaled that of the multiverse but hundreds of millions of times.

Originally posted by Mider999
like i mentioned when he died he released power that equaled that of the multiverse but hundreds of millions of times.

Millions of times that of the Multiverse.

Still a heck of alot though. 🙂

GEB.

And no one below him.

Are Master and GS prenteding or do they really not like each other?

Who knows.

I'm sure it gets frustrating after a time, though. They argue over and over and over on the same crap.

If Spectre with the Logos equals the Voice, the Source then Beyonder would be above them, why? - Because Beyonder was above the Living Tribunal whom is their counter part.

The Great Darkness would be the closest to Beyonder's level.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
If Spectre with the Logos equals the Voice, the Source then Beyonder would be above them, why? - Because Beyonder was above the Living Tribunal whom is their counter part.

BUT

If you go by on panel statements, Beyonder is definitely above LT...

See how that works?

Originally posted by Galan007
Going by panel feats, Beyonder is not above LT [they never battled, nor did Beyonder do anything that I think LT would be incapable of doing].

[b]BUT

If you go by on panel statements, Beyonder is definitely above LT...

See how that works? [/B]

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