Genius

Originally posted by Drusilla
Interesting thread. I've always wanted to know the accurate definition of a genius, because I am almost one. My IQ is 137, and genius starts at 140.

What Intelligence Scale were you assessed with? Different scales sometimes classify levels of intelligence differently. Also, did you get a breakdown as to what specific measures of intelligence you were best in (eg, verbal comprehension, abstract visual reasoning, etc)?

Is it genetic?

I dont think I.Q tests are valid well ive only done online ones, never paid to do one. My i.q has ranged from 173 to 157 to 104 and im possitive I once got a below 100 i.q before... They don't seem very reliable.

Originally posted by Magee
I dont think I.Q tests are valid well ive only done online ones, never paid to do one. My i.q has ranged from 173 to 157 to 104 and im possitive I once got a below 100 i.q before... They don't seem very reliable.

Was just saying online I.Q tests seem unreliable and Its quite easy to come across intellectual on the intornetz, if you care.

Originally posted by Drusilla

Is it genetic?

No, it's not genetic, intelligence is maybe determined that way, but genius, which is same with spirit, is individual, not heritable...

My IQ was measured when I first went to my psychiatrist. Yeah, I remember my linguistic and logical was perfect, the weakest for me was visual. Which kind of helped me 'cause I could choose what I wanted to learn. I wanted to be an interior designer, but since the visual is not my strength, I'd be lousy in it.

I think this is out of topic...if you want to discuss about intelligence which is not qualifier for genius start another tread...I would be happy to share my IQ score with you, and talk about difficulties being accepted by friends and surroundings as highly intelligent person...my IQ score is 153, and I'm far far away from being genius, let me repeat once again, FAR FAR AWAY...
so let's not implement intelligence in our discussion again, please...

Originally posted by Mindship
Genius: very high intelligence, "intelligence" not being limited to logical reasoning but also encompassing insight/creativity.

Talent: an innate ability to do something very well. This could include intelligence (though usually, then, we say "gifted" or "genius"😉, but could also mean in a physical ability, like running, or playing soccer (in terms of tactics, a soccer player may be a "genius." But "genius" is not really the right word to use for someone who is, simply, a fast/agile runner/kicker. Then we would say talented, gifted or even "blessed"😉.

Skill: this usually implies some level of training to hone one's talent/gift. "Genius" is not a skill, though if one is, say, a musical genius, a certain level of training could help that person improve their methods/techniques/behaviors in expressing their genius.

Finally someone with the sense of subtlety...

I have read this thread and have found many of the points made to be very interesting. I thought Storms definition was the best but then Hydrono brought up the point of speed and capacity such as a processor.
Yet others point out that speed alone does not equate genius . An example being an autistic savante. I wondered then if Mindships question of intelligence would steer the discussion to a more articulated path. Hairs seem to become split as you question intelligence and then the discussion lost its way. I wonder if genius has constant or can it be a momentary occurance. For example the Aha or Eureka phenomena.
Genius then would indeed occur in different "flavors" as noted by Mindship. Plus it would be explain that genius is not defined by the end but by the cummulation and individual. (not quite sure if I am wording my thoughts coherently here.)
I am not quite sure where my point is going here. Just trying to see if I am grasping the process correctly.
My personal thought was to perhaps think of what genius is not along the lines of what is not intelligence. Perhaps looking at the negative as in Argesilen's Sig would help with the positive.
Just my two cents.

I.Q dose not really define intelligence.