Originally posted by jinzinIt's one of his powers and I'm just following KMC rules. Electro-shock stun then a one punch ftw.
that's nice.... unfortunately, with a career that spans over 6 decades and 70 pages of respect thread, this has happened so few times and far-between, that it doesn't seem like Namor's pulling that one out for a majority of the time. 😬
Originally posted by jinzin
that's nice.... unfortunately, with a career that spans over 6 decades and 70 pages of respect thread, this has happened so few times and far-between, that it doesn't seem like Namor's pulling that one out for a majority of the time. 😬
Originally posted by Estacado
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Who the hell cares??
It's a forum battle and he is allowed to use all of his powers.
Going by the rules that means namor likly hood of using it are slimm to none. Not to mention namor character will most certainly go into melee combat.
Originally posted by Estacado
"That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed."
Namor simply does not use it becuase of arogrance. He likes to prove he the best by going h2h. He chooses not to use the abilties. Not to mention he some tiems has the powers and sometimes does not.
Flash suffers from PIS like no other. He simply does not use the abilties ebcause if he did his comics would last one pannel.
Namor however is not the same thing.
CIS means Namor will go h2h and not use the abiltiy which he only used I think 4 times..........
Originally posted by Estacado
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Who the hell cares??
It's a forum battle and he is allowed to use all of his powers.
Ahhh I see....
Well then, Wolverine has the ability to shrug off Namor's best shots like NOTHING... Namor's best punches won't even effect him.
Wolverine has the ability to shrug off lightning like nothing, Storm's blasted him, so has swordsmen and he got up and or ignored it... Not to mention taking two blasts from Firelord and remaining concious.
Wolverine has the ability to regrow from a single drop of blood.
To feel the heat of the incoming lighting with his enhances senses and dodge.
He has a sixth sense which alerts him to danger without prescence of sound, sight, touch or smell.
To turn outright invisible 5 feet infront of Namor in broad daylight.
To see lightning coming at him like slow motion capture.
Originally posted by Estacado
"That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed."
Yes, and it's also assumed that he's fighting in character so it probably means that won't happen...
It's like Wolverine's berserker rage... Berserker Rage increases all of Wolverine's physical stats, and attributes a few times over yet no one automatically defaults to true berserker Wolverine in every thread because as often as he gets angry the times that he actually flies off into a real berserker rage are so few and far between that it isn't rational to assume he'll do it for every fight.
Being at one's best doesn't equate to being completely out of character.
And again, from as many years and comics as Namor has behind him, there should be a lot more of an ability to do this. But there isn't... Hell, we don't even know if there are outside circumstances which actually allow Namor the ability to pull that feat off. 😬
Originally posted by jinzin
Ahhh I see....Well then, Wolverine has the ability to shrug off Namor's best shots like NOTHING... Namor's best punches won't even effect him.
Wow.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/385547_1-wolverine-takes-class-100-shots-like-nothing
Originally posted by Alfheim
Wow.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/385547_1-wolverine-takes-class-100-shots-like-nothing
touché
Originally posted by jinzinIt's also like saying Superman speed blitzes people all day. It rarely happens in comics but still well within his powers. So, per KMC rules Namor wins this.
It's not one of his powers THAT OFTEN.. it's like arguing that spiderman has the power to literally radar himself to a badguy just because he's done it once or twice.. 😬
Originally posted by Badabing
It's also like saying Superman speed blitzes people all day. It rarely happens in comics but still well within his powers. So, per KMC rules Namor wins this.
Thats true actually. I had a quick look at the rules. I was wondering if it came under standard equipment.....yeah yeah I know its says "equipment" but I kinda expected the characters to use the powers that they normally use....that would make more sense.
Yeah the rules state that its a viable option.
Originally posted by AlfheimThat's the reason there is so much arguing on KMC sometimes. Honestly, I think the rules take a lot of PIS and CIS out of the battles but the rules also sometimes contradict the comics. Speed blitz is the best known example. We also have Flash with the infinite mass punch, Sue Storm with the force field bubble, Magneto with the blood rip and so on.
Thats true actually. I had a quick look at the rules. I was wondering if it came under standard equipment.....yeah yeah I know its says "equipment" but I kinda expected the characters to use the powers that they normally use....that would make more sense.Yeah the rules state that its a viable option.
Originally posted by Badabing
That's the reason there is so much arguing on KMC sometimes. Honestly, I think the rules take a lot of PIS and CIS out of the battles but the rules also sometimes contradict the comics. Speed blitz is the best known example. We also have Flash with the infinite mass punch, Sue Storm with the force field bubble, Magneto with the blood rip and so on.
I think they need some updating mind you. I want to discuss it in detail with some of the mods at some stage.
Originally posted by Badabing
We could always make threads with stipulations to counter the rules a bit so the battles are more like a comic scenario.
Meh. I think its better to make it official. Certain people will decide not to go to certain threads, if its official they dont have a choice. 😄
Anyway this is my beef. The rules say PIS isnt contigent with consistency but SvFl states that if a character does something enough times then its allowed. My prob is where do you draw the line? For me personally consistency is the best argument.
Wolverine on the other hand does my ****ing head in. There should be a rule to deal with inconsistent showings. 😒:
Originally posted by Alfheim
Wow.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/385547_1-wolverine-takes-class-100-shots-like-nothing
Almost every example that darkcrawler brought from that thread was skewed and I showed why. 😐
The point still remains; Wolverine's showed the ability to shrugg off class 100+ blows LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED, and since he's fighting at the best of his abilities he can do so in this thread.
I'm using the SAME EXACT reasoning that the counter argument is in trying to tell me that Namor can and will use his electric eel powers for a majority of the fight... Okay if that's the case then Wolverine turns invisible, makes his way to Namor shrugging off or dodging every lightning bolt that comes his way and then runs namor through; IF Namor manages to land a blow Wolverine won't be affected.. Why? you ask?
Because:
Originally posted by Estacado
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Who the hell cares??
It's a forum battle and he is allowed to use all of his powers.
And this is without regards to just how those powers work...
It's a simple mirror image of the reasoning the opposition is trying to use but when I use it all of the sudden I'M the fanboy?
😕
Originally posted by llagrok
touché
Not really, since we're talking about Namor here, and the only punch that namor's ever made Logan feel was a cheap shot after Wolverine had been through the ringer and already dropped Rex twice.
Originally posted by Badabing
It's also like saying Superman speed blitzes people all day. It rarely happens in comics but still well within his powers. So, per KMC rules Namor wins this.
No he doesn't... Wolverine turns invisable and stealths around the arena until Namor exhausts his energy supply. Then moves in for the kill.
Originally posted by Badabing
We could always make threads with stipulations to counter the rules a bit so the battles are more like a comic scenario.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Meh. I think its better to make it official. Certain people will decide not to go to certain threads, if its official they dont have a choice. 😄Anyway this is my beef. The rules say PIS isnt contigent with consistency but SvFl states that if a character does something enough times then its allowed. My prob is where do you draw the line? For me personally consistency is the best argument.
Wolverine on the other hand does my ****ing head in. There should be a rule to deal with inconsistent showings. 😒:
To this... I agree... Which is why I challenge the idea of Namor using his electric eel powers... It's just something that's happened so NOT OFTEN that I can't really allow myself to sit here and read about how NAMORE DEFINITELY WILL USE IT... Hell.. ESPECIALLY in this thread... where it had to be stipulated that Wolverine was in a berserker rage which only goes farther to further my point. Again, Berserker rages (real ones) happen so few and far between that it's never assumed that Wolverine does it for every battle.. If it was, then a LOT of these arguments would be different. And the Superman example; well see the thing is, Supes has at least shown the ability to use his speed blitze tactic on a couple dozen occasions now... it's hardly the same scenario....
Again, it'd be like Spiderman given the ability to "radar" his way to a badguy from a city away.. Yeah he's done it once or twice but not enough times to say he'd do it in a forum fight....
Or perhaps, it's more like Venom and his stealth mode... sure, Venom can go stealth, but the fact of the matter is that his CIS is going to prohibit him from doing that a majority of the time. He COULD do it for every fight, but CIS included; he simply WON'T. And here we are with Namor, a man who prides himself a warrior king, a man who believes in honor and would never allow himself to stoop to cowardice, apparently flying up to the ceiling rafters and letting loose with lighting bolts like thor... Sorry but it just doesn't fly for me... Namor's not a coward and he's got a hot temper, he far more likely to simply go fisticuffs with Logan... Sure the eel thing may or may not be a viable option, but either way it's not likely to happen; which is the point here.