Berserk Wolverine VS Namor

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
What about the fact that he was wearing his black suit in his last fight with Wolverine?
Also, he wasn't in the ocean when he almost one-shotted Beta Ray Bill, who has amazing duribility.

In my opinion, Namor could score a one-punch, and of course Wolverine can too though...

What relivance does the black suit represent that I'm unaware of?

And I'm not denying that he does indeed have high showings. but he doesn't have enough consistency with them nr does he have ANY against wolverine.

Originally posted by jinzin
yup.. one way, nonstop.

Originally posted by jinzin
What relivance does the black suit represent that I'm unaware of?

Originally posted by jinzin
What relivance does the black suit represent that I'm unaware of?

And I'm not denying that he does indeed have high showings. but he doesn't have enough consistency with them nr does he have ANY against wolverine.

He has plenty of consistency, and the simple fact that I've seen like one fight between them, makes me really know nothing about it...

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Keeps his moisture.

Originally posted by Creshosk
heh moist.

Why what did you have in mind?

and.. ah.. I see, thought so... and yet, I still fail to see what the point was in bringin it up..

Originally posted by jinzin
Why what did you have in mind?

and.. ah.. I see, thought so... and yet, I still fail to see what the point was in bringin it up..

Him having it, would basically be the same as him fighting underwater (strength-wise).

Which, would basically put him at Hulk crushing power.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
What? The black suit?

Him having it, would basically be the same as him fighting underwater (strength-wise).

Which, would basically put him at Hulk crushing power.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
What? The black suit?

Him having it, would basically be the same as him fighting underwater (strength-wise).

Which, would basically put him at Hulk crushing power.

then it's all that more impressive that wolverine stood up to him before the cheap shot. I fail to see how that's a plus for namor... of course I'm only assuming that you were furthering the argument for namor's side but... 😕

Originally posted by Creshosk
now is that hulk crushing power as in the ability to crush hulk or hulk crushing power as in the same crushing power that hulk has?

Originally posted by jinzin
then it's all that more impressive that wolverine stood up to him before the cheap shot. I fail to see how that's a plus for namor... of course I'm only assuming that you were furthering the argument for namor's side but... 😕

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
All I know, is that he KO'ed Hulk pretty bad with it...
No, I'm basically pointing out how stupid it sounds for Wolverine to take shots by him...

KOing a perfectly healthy wolverine is no easy feat... usually he's already been messed up when someone knocks him out.

fairly old. but appropriate.. not directed towards anyone in particular.

Originally posted by jinzin
---namors faster and stronger...namor wins...

"wolverine's taken it to namor once and nearly killed him the second time"

---"those don't count it's pis namors in another league, he's owned hulk!"

"i know he's owned him in water, but has he done so out of water?"

---"....................................................."

"are you aware wolverine's nearly killed the hulk on a coupleof occasions?"

---"those don't count, it's PIS!"

"how about when he knocked herc down? or KOed him?"

---"PIS! wolverine will be paste in one punch"

"wolverine takes punches as hard or harder all the time...🤨"

--"PIS I SAY"

"what's your obsession with peeing? 🤨 "

Well since pictures are turning into a new craze for this thread, let me indulge you Wolverine supporters out there with a little fiery tale I like to call The Fish Versus The Wolverine.

Our story transpires in marvel universe 616 where¡K¡K

First Fight Namor 23 or 24 - Notice: in this encounter Wolverine's being mind controlled so his skills are not his own. However, he does prove he can stand up to Namor's blows and the narrative even implies a possible speed advantage in Wolverine's favor.

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New Invaders- (sorry guys, I can¡¦t use my own scans right now so I went hunting for someone else¡¦s and the first two pics of this fight were littered with faux dialogue thrown in by an intense Namor fan. Basically Wolverine just took down an Atlantean advisor and dropped Flaming Skull, a class 40-60 in 3 panels after taking a shot or two from the guy then Namor steps in, the fight ends with Wolverine having Namor dead to rights, and U.S. Agent coming in to the rescue before fleeing away from a STILL oncoming Wolverine.) Notice - In terms of hand to hand contest this doesn't last long.. Namor's punches aren't registering to much on Wolverine and the best he manages to do is some impromptu batting practice.. Wolverine still gets up and proves that in a straight h2h Namor just doesn¡¦t cut it.

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Wolverine 45 - Notice: this is AFTER and extensive fight with 3 super powered Atleantian guards, and AFTER being blown away to a skeleton.. literally 😐
Also notice how Wolverine trades blows fisticuffs at the start of the fight. He also starts going to town on the royal guard after he has Namor dead to rights.

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part 2 - Notice: Wolverine accredits his a'a suit as giving him a mobile disadvantage; yet he STILL drops Namor's royal guard and then hits Namor so hard his eyes roll into the back of his head.
Also: notice how Wolverine's taking it easy on Namor having retracted his claws at the last second to punch Namor in the head.

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Yet even in other regions far far out of reach of the fabled 616 there lurks alternate realities.. And for some the grave reality of the situation remains¡K.

Alternate Reality - Namor comes in and nails Wolverine with one or two cheap shots. Wolverine immediately retaliates killing Namor with one blow.

The End.

If Wolverine sat there eating up Namors punches with no ill effects, I'd probably quit reading X-titles. If Marvel were willing to cheapen one of their founding characters in such a drastic manner just to push Wolverine even further down out throats, then yeah I'd call PIS and probably ditch the title for a while. As for those low showings, Im not implying that Wolverine could be taken out by Bambi, Im just saying that everyone wants to live on his high showings (being burnt to a skeleton then healing for example) but completely ignore the weaker ones. Wolverine isnt immune to blunt force.
Also everyone is hyping Wolverine's H2H skills. This isnt standard Wolverine. This is berserk Wolverine, who fights undisciplined. Namor has fought beasts before, and won. This shouldnt be any different.

Originally posted by redhotrash
If Wolverine sat there eating up Namors punches with no ill effects, I'd probably quit reading X-titles. If Marvel were willing to cheapen one of their founding characters in such a drastic manner just to push Wolverine even further down out throats, then yeah I'd call PIS and probably ditch the title for a while. As for those low showings, Im not implying that Wolverine could be taken out by Bambi, Im just saying that everyone wants to live on his high showings (being burnt to a skeleton then healing for example) but completely ignore the weaker ones. Wolverine isnt immune to blunt force.
Also everyone is hyping Wolverine's H2H skills. This isnt standard Wolverine. This is berserk Wolverine, who fights undisciplined. Namor has fought beasts before, and won. This shouldnt be any different.

look through the first pages... Berserker rage doesn't equal a decrease in his fighting skill.. it's stated by preffosor god damned X who I would think wold be able to get a clear grasp on Wolverine's mind since his is the earth's foremost telepath.

And yeah, here's the thing.. we don't even argue use the high end showings as a standard.. But the question of the matter is, what's relivent, what's more common? Frankly, Wolverine's high end showings average out to a wayyyyyy larger percentage of Wolverine's career than his low, which is WHY things like the IMP feat are ignored.. because they're only shown to happen 1 out of ever 50 times.. Makes the 2% chance of it transpiring less than worth mentioning in a thread that considers fights; chances out of ten more often than not.

Ok I caught you in B.S., Wolverine goes to Japan, ends up fighting I believe Ogun, slips into a berserk rage, and gets his a** handed to him. So he trains, learns to comtrol his animalistic side, fights again and wins. So I'll take a legit piece of Wolverine history (and a turning point in the character's life) over what a telepath, who has always had trouble getting into Wolverine's mind, supposedly said.

whistling

Originally posted by redhotrash
Ok I caught you in B.S., Wolverine goes to Japan, ends up fighting I believe Ogun, slips into a berserk rage, and gets his a** handed to him. So he trains, learns to comtrol his animalistic side, fights again and wins. So I'll take a legit piece of Wolverine history (and a turning point in the character's life) over what a telepath, who has always had trouble getting into Wolverine's mind, supposedly said.

You believe?

What issue? Are you reffering to the Wolverine/Kitty Pride issue?
Or Logan's training under Ogun for swordsmanship?

Well it doesn't matter... cause the fact of the matter is that Wolverine's slipped into a berserker rage as recorded only twice against Ogun and both times he beat Ogun silly. In fact Wolverine thrashing Ogun is what stopped his training under Ogun's tutilage and it was what the last half of the last comic in the Kitty Pride series was about... The only thing that transpired after Wolverine went berserker was a one sided beatdown. 😐

So I'm not sure what the hell you're reffering to, lest it's the fight that Wolverine had with Shadowcat when she dressed up in Ogun's Oni costume. A fight where Logan never got to his berserker rage and on top of that was poisioned.. as well as the fact that the killing blows he landed in that fight were simply phased through....

Oh and by the way, that's the most ridiculous bit of logic on your part to use since the point was that Wolverine still retains skill in a berserker rage. IF he got beaten down by Ogun in their first encounter (and he didn't... hell all they did was talk), it wouldn't even matter, since that was WELLLLLL before Wolverine recieved a large portion of the fighting skills that we're reffering to. 😕
But like I said, never happened that way. So no, your attempt to use Wolverine's history against him has failed completely...
And what to you mean "supposedly said" go to the first half dozen pages and look for your self you lazy bum.

Originally posted by Estacado
whistling

uhhhhh yeah... I don't see how that's supposed to prove that Namor can beat Wolverine... but okay...

It's not as if we're trying to convince anybody Namor's NOT strong as ****... 😬

hnnnn? For some reasons the second link to the fourth fight didn't come out right.. okay... here goes..

Originally posted by Estacado
Or not.....

Namor one shots him.

after wolverine dropped namor twice.............good evidence though . 🙄

funny... where did everyone go?
Come back you bastards.