Originally posted by SparkzYes you need take control over to use it as a weapon because if it uses you it only uses it's own symbiotic strenght...
I suppose but I wouldn't think you would need to control the symbiote for it to make you stronger, you would think the symbiote would make its host as strong as it possibly can.
Originally posted by Sparkz
Gargan has Super powers without the suit, read his first appearance he clearly states he has super strength before he puts on the suit though he only demonstrates after, that and why would he have needed that radiation treatment if he just needed the suit??Also was it ever stated reabsorbing the Carnage symbiote boosted Brocks strength?
Originally posted by SparkzLook at Spidey vs. Gargan fight. Spidey was more an asskicker than Gargan...And villians at their first appearence are stronger than the usual appearence, and just look at Brock. Mostly beating Spidey.
i get that but I don't see how controlling it makes it stronger, forming weapons and such yeah...but not stronger.
Originally posted by Rewmac
Look at Spidey vs. Gargan fight. Spidey was more an asskicker than Gargan...And villians at their first appearence are stronger than the usual appearence, and just look at Brock. Mostly beating Spidey.
Yeah I know, I wasn't saying Gargan wasn't weaker I just didn't see why he would be...and also I think Spidey was kicking his ass due to a lack of durability.
Originally posted by Estacado
Well it is a kind of difficulty for him to bear the symbiote...
Eddie never had problems like that.
YEah but we didn't see Venom till about a year or so after he got the symbiote so he had plenty of time to adjust. Gargan hasn't had it that long yet. So for all we know Brock felt like that at first too, I doubt it but it is possible.
Originally posted by Sparkz
YEah but we didn't see Venom till about a year or so after he got the symbiote so he had plenty of time to adjust. Gargan hasn't had it that long yet. So for all we know Brock felt like that at first too, I doubt it but it is possible.
Originally posted by EstacadoEddie adjusted to the suit less then 2 years.
Gargan has the suit for about 2 years now.....
Originally posted by Sparkz
I suppose but I wouldn't think you would need to control the symbiote for it to make you stronger, you would think the symbiote would make its host as strong as it possibly can.
Look at Spiderman. The symbiote didn't boost his stats that much. When Brock got it, it boosted his strength alot more. 2nd, Brock was an olympic level athlete before he got the suit. He also worked out alot with the sybmbiote. So it's partly the symbiote, and it's partly that Brock was tough as nails without it. Scorpion on the other hand, was about class 15-20ish before he got the symbiote. He's approximately as strong as Brock Venom supposedly. BUT........We know the suit could make him even stronger. Thus, the proof, that he's not using at it's full power and that he can't control it. Plus, Brock never had to deal with effects like the ones referenced by Estacado's scan. It doesn't like Gargan as much as it did Brock.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Look at Spiderman. The symbiote didn't boost his stats that much. When Brock got it, it boosted his strength alot more. 2nd, Brock was an olympic level athlete before he got the suit. He also worked out alot with the sybmbiote. So it's partly the symbiote, and it's partly that Brock was tough as nails without it. Scorpion on the other hand, was about class 15-20ish before he got the symbiote. He's approximately as strong as Brock Venom supposedly. BUT........We know the suit could make him even stronger. Thus, the proof, that he's not using at it's full power and that he can't control it. Plus, Brock never had to deal with effects like the ones referenced by Estacado's scan. It doesn't like Gargan as much as it did Brock.
Yeah but the symbiote didn't boosts Pete's powers because it hadn't absorbed his powers at the time and hadn't gotten stronger.
After all at first it only gave Brock Spidey's strength plus his own, then it got stronger after a while then got upgrades. And I don't think Spider-man had the symbiote for that long either, come to think of it he was also constantly taking it off.
