Originally posted by SparkzYou sure? Cause when Gargan met Spider-man in the issue before he bonded with the symbiote Spider-man always squashed him against a wall. It didn't seem that Gargan has any powers.
Gargan has Super powers without the suit, read his first appearance he clearly states he has super strength before he puts on the suit though he only demonstrates after, that and why would he have needed that radiation treatment if he just needed the suit??Also was it ever stated reabsorbing the Carnage symbiote boosted Brocks strength?
Also it's true that the better bonding between host and the symbiote is, the stronger they become. Eddie Brock was able to sense and see the symbiote even when they were seperated.
Besides Brock's own strength matters as well, he has some crazy feats even without the symbiote.
Originally posted by Sam ZHe only had powers in the 90s cartoon. Gargan's strenght is in the battle suit.
You sure? Cause when Gargan met Spider-man in the issue before he bonded with the symbiote Spider-man always squashed him against a wall. It didn't seem that Gargan has any powers.Also it's true that the better bonding between host and the symbiote is, the stronger they become. Eddie Brock was able to sense and see the symbiote even when they were seperated.
Besides Brock's own strength matters as well, he has some crazy feats even without the symbiote.
Sparkz : Only need to read the issue when he appears and the one after it.
Originally posted by Sam Z
You sure? Cause when Gargan met Spider-man in the issue before he bonded with the symbiote Spider-man always squashed him against a wall. It didn't seem that Gargan has any powers.Also it's true that the better bonding between host and the symbiote is, the stronger they become. Eddie Brock was able to sense and see the symbiote even when they were seperated.
Besides Brock's own strength matters as well, he has some crazy feats even without the symbiote.
Its safe to assume that when Pete did that Gargan just didn't fight back and wanted a conversation, besides would you go to a very enraged Spider-man if you didn't have any powers skills etc?
Ah yeah fair enough, yeah like when Brock took at about 10 cops in pure H2H that was pretty good.
Originally posted by Rewmac
He only had powers in the 90s cartoon. Gargan's strenght is in the battle suit.
i'm afraid not , When Stillwell was giving him his powers he not only stated he was super human, he said he would give him the powers of a scorpion, and then Gargan mentions how strong he is.
Now if all of Gargans abilities come from the suit then why would he go through with all that radioactive treatment?
Originally posted by Rewmac
There is a conversation between Norman and Gargan as Venom. He says that he just made him a new battlesuit. Gargan says with symbiote he is stronger with the suit. Meaning Gargan has no powers without the suit.
1 if you are referring to MK 11 the only thing like that conversation that took place was Osborn complaining that Gargan was wearing the symbiote instead of the battle suit he made.
Second what you said doesn't mean Gargan has no powers without his battle suit. It means that he is stronger with the symbiote than he is when only wearing the battle suit.
Originally posted by Rewmac
I'll might need a scan. Because The Scorpion didn't have any super strength without the suit.
Ok then read this http://www.marvel.com/universe/Venom_%28Mac_Gargan%29
under powers it states Scorpion can lift 15 tons, if he required his suit to do it that would be stated or stated under weapons. And I'll get a scan when I can but I can't get to a scanner at this time.
Originally posted by RewmacGargan was a real badass in the cartoon.
He only had powers in the 90s cartoon. Gargan's strenght is in the battle suit.
Originally posted by SparkzHell no, I wouldn't. Especially after reading ASM#540 lol
Its safe to assume that when Pete did that Gargan just didn't fight back and wanted a conversation, besides would you go to a very enraged Spider-man if you didn't have any powers skills etc?
Originally posted by SparkzYeah, or when he beat one of the five symbiotes with his bare hands and broke metal bonds...
Ah yeah fair enough, yeah like when Brock took at about 10 cops in pure H2H that was pretty good.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Hell no, I wouldn't. Especially after reading ASM#540 lol
Probably you're right, he does have the powers.
Yeah, or when he beat one of the five symbiotes with his bare hands and broke metal bonds...
Damn why can't that issue be out here yet 🙁 Glad someone finally agree's with me lol
lol that's a better example the one I brought up lol hmmm I suddenly want to see Brock get into a fight with Kassady both without the symbiotes, obvious who would win but it'd be cool to watch.
Originally posted by SparkzIf I waited for the issue to come out in Russia I wouldn't be able to read it untill 2015 or so lol Strong DC++ rules!
Damn why can't that issue be out here yet 🙁 Glad someone finally agree's with me lol
Originally posted by SparkzYeah, that'd be cool to watch. 😈
lol that's a better example the one I brought up lol hmmm I suddenly want to see Brock get into a fight with Kassady both without the symbiotes, obvious who would win but it'd be cool to watch.
Originally posted by Tyranno-Chris
The lizard can use his healing factor. And Lizard is faster. Ever seen him on walls? And the claws could rip the symbiote off of him.
Venom has a healing factor, Venom is faster, and if Wolverines claws couldn't rip off the symbiote the Lizards won't either. And the Lizard can't actually hurt Venny... soooo