What part of "very tough fights" term in my statement you did not understand?
My understanding and comprehension isn't in question here. Yours is.
Revan has faced some challenges which were harder then the challenge that Dooku would provide him. Want to see an example? Here is one:Revan vs SF enhanced Malak:
Darth Malak on regular basis is better then Dooku in several cases. By the end of JCW, the Star Forge had enhanced his power further by a good deal and then he made some preparations that made him a "nearly unstoppable" opponent. This final fight was so hard that it was described to be of titanic proportions but guess what who won in the end? REVAN
This is my very final warning: if you're going to debate this poorly, don't bother arguing with me. I never said that Dooku's struggles and challenges were harder than Revan's, but rather that they were different. To say that 'Revan faced more dangerous challenges' would require proof.
Now you need to think twice before you go on and say that Revan cannot handle Dooku.
This is absolute ****ing stupidity, you dumbass.
I NEVER SAID THAT REVAN COULDN'T HANDLE DOOKU!!!!!!
He will defeat Dooku in most cases.
I HAVE ALREADY SAID THIS. IN A FORCE FIGHT AND IN AN ALL OUT FIGHT, REVAN WOULD WIN. DOES THIS MASSIVE TEXT SIZE MAKE IT ANY CLEARER?
Does someone needs to be Thrawn to make smart decisions during the conflicts and duels?
I SAID THAT HE COULN'T PULL A PLAN OUT OF HIS ASS, NOT THAT HE COULDN'T CONSTRUCT A PLAN WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF A DUEL.
And Revan has actually proved on several occasions that he can make smart decisions at the time of need. He will definately pull out a smart plan when he will engage in a hard fight.
I DIDN'T DENY THIS...
And the funny thing is that Dooku never ever mentioned about Revan.
Jesus Christ! Which means what, you jackass? That Revan was one of the very most successful Sith Lords ought to make it quite clear that Dooku knows about him.
And Revan's Sith ideologies proved to be successful actually.
You are without a shadow of a doubt the dumbest person on these forums. Seriously. Nebaris and LORDSIDIOUS on their worst days are ten times smarter than you have ever proven yourself capable of.
And the Sith history clearly indicates that it was through Revan's teachings that Bane got the inspiration of Rule of Two and became powerful enough to meet all the challenges that lay ahead for him and started a new Order of the Sith that would be stronger then before and Palpatine was part of this new order. Guess what? Palpatine would speak highly about Revan, if he ever mentions him.
I need to speak with Ush and REX about implementing an IQ requirement to participate in this forums. Words cannot begin to gauge the depth of your stupidity... I have said on previous occasions and several times during this thread that Revan was one of the most successful Sith ever, hence why Palpatine and Dooku would know of him.
Pull your copy of KotoR out of your ass and get some glasses.
What part of "his attention was fully diverted" point do you not understand?
What part of "he should have known about Malak's capability for treason prior" do you not understand? That he was distracted during the fact is irrelevant.
Revan's life was under threat and he was cornered by the Jedi strike on the deck of his ship. He was thinking about dealing with those Jedi at that time. Now what would you expect from him or anybody in that of kind of situation?
Don't tell me what Revan was thinking. He was a damn video game character.
I have never said that Revan's precognition is infallible. But it is indeed exceptional and certainly better then that of Dooku.
Sure it is.
He failed to see Anakin's betrayal because he was pre-occupied against Sidious and was under attack. He had to safe-guard him from that attack. Under normal circumstances, he was capable enough to sense the betrayal from Anakin.
No, you jackass. AotC made it clear that the Jedi's ability to sense the future was being diminished by the dark side [Palpatine]. Hell, Mace thought that "the fear" he sensed was Palpatine's, when in truth - it was Anakin's fear as per the novelization. He was incapable of seeing what might happen.
Did I said that Revan is infallible? You like to take things out of context actually.
By basing his victory apparently off of precognition, yes, what you said is tantamount to crediting Revan infallibility.
And is there any need to mention this comment. You took a chuck of my comment aimed for a different purpose and twisted the whole thing to suite your purpose.What I wanted to say is that even Sidious failed to sense the betrayal in a particlar situation and lost. But this does not means that he does not have exceptional Precognition.
Similar was the case of Revan.
Sidious used his foresight to map out decades worth of plans. His foresight is, logic concludes, miles ahead of Revan's. But, even then, do I fellate his ability to see the future? No. Because it is fallible, so one must assume in a hypothetical situation that it will not always work. As is the case with Revan, period.
You are indeed baised against KOTOR characters as you fail to acknowledge their feats properly.
I acknowledge their damn feats, you idiot. You're the one giving Revan a fellatio.
No! he was not.
Yes! He was.
Check this quote: The two entered into a spectacular duel -- a contest between the most powerful practitioners of the Force's light and dark sides. The Emperor proved too powerful to defeat. Though Yoda held his own for much of the duel, in the end, the Sith bested him.
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That comes from the [I]databank, you jackass. The movies, novelization, script > the databank.
Yoda was the most powerful practitioner of the Light Side of the Force in his age but that does not means that he was equal to Sidious.
He was equal to Sidious because the fight ended in a stalemate, you jackass.
In that situation?Sidious could not be beaten by him in most situations because Sidious was more powerful then him.
No, Sidious wasn't.
No one can.
Yes, thanks for the update, fanboy.
Revan knew how to deal with influential politicians as well.
Which means jack shit...
Yusanis was also an influential politician. He learned about the true identity of Revan and was a threat to Revan because he could tarnish his image in the senate. But Revan reacted soon and dealt firmly with him and his associates, which resulted in fall of Echani influence in the politics. Guess what? Revan's genuis was not just limited to military command. He knew how to deal with other kinds of threats as well.
So what? Thrawn manipulated New Republic politics quite often. Does that make him on par with Dooku, a thoroughly educated and experienced politician? No. Does it put him on par with Darth 'I succeeded where Revan failed' Sidious? Hell no. Revan dealing with politicians does not make him a political mastermind.
The obvious reasons are as follows:A) Superior precogntition capabilities.
B) More level of smartness.
C) And being a master strategist, schemer and planner.
Prove that Revan was a better schemer and planner than Dooku.
Revan's precognition is better then that of Dooku. He will be able to determine every move made by Dooku.
No, he won't. Revan's precognition is fallible. To say that he 'will determine every move made by Dooku' is fallacious. If I need to get REX and Ush here to slam that cold fact down your throat [we'll of course remove Revan's dick from it, first], by all means, I can.
It is not a fact.
Yes, it is a fact.
You cannot even understand meaning of that quote and you call me stupid. Yoda believed to be all that but he finally realized he was not as much.
The omniscient narrator called Yoda "the most powerful ever".
What a stupid comment. He was not the most powerful foe of the darkness as history proves it but he thought that he was but was mistaken and realized it when he faced a more powerful opponent.
You idiot! Being "the most powerful foe the darkness had ever known" does not make you "more powerful" than the darkness itself! It means that you are simply more powerful than any other lightsider prior, which he was.