Ryu can teleport. He dodge multiple helicopter gaitling gun fire which is wtf crazyfast. He got in close enough and destroyed them. Whats the difference? And Samus Sheilds wont protect her. Specialy since the Ryuken(True Dragon Sword) cuts through pure energy. The energy emited from A partialy devil incarnated Vig Emperor.
He also dodge turrets through out the entire game from set turrests and tank turrets. whiole dodging machine gun fire from multiple troops. Some Im prettyu sure Ryubusa will have no problem dodging one person shooting and will get closer. Close enough to deal his damage and come out victorious
Originally posted by Csdabest
Ryu can teleport.
He has a start up and recovery though. Samus could hit him during that time, his teleport is not like say Kasumi's.
Originally posted by Csdabest
He dodge multiple helicopter gaitling gun fire which is wtf crazyfast. He got in close enough and destroyed them. Whats the difference? And Samus Sheilds wont protect her.
Except that those helicopters do not even come close to the amount of fire power Samus has. Furthermore, Samus has super speed as well, more so then Busa'
Originally posted by Csdabest
Specialy since the Ryuken(True Dragon Sword) cuts through pure energy. The energy emited from A partialy devil incarnated Vig Emperor.
Ryuken is a plot device.
Originally posted by Csdabest
He also dodge turrets through out the entire game from set turrests and tank turrets. whiole dodging machine gun fire from multiple troops. Some Im prettyu sure Ryubusa will have no problem dodging one person shooting and will get closer. Close enough to deal his damage and come out victorious
With difficulty though, it's not like he does it easy. Furthermore, Samus has Super Speed as well.
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
He has a start up and recovery though. Samus could hit him during that time, his teleport is not like say Kasumi's.Except that those helicopters do not even come close to the amount of fire power Samus has. Furthermore, Samus has super speed as well, more so then Busa'
Ryuken is a plot device.
With difficulty though, it's not like he does it easy. Furthermore, Samus has Super Speed as well.
1) game Mechanic to give balance tot he attack.
2)In her Ball form. I havent seen no superspeed from her outside of ball form from her. And I have most if not all Metroid games.
3.)Your point. he still has it. Samus suit is a plot device. And half of her armor feats are plot devices. Ryuken is his sword. He doesnt have to be good at it. Give a sniper a sniper rifle he'll make use of it. Give a baby a sniper rifle. You'll have a comercial of gun saftey with children.
4) If he didnt do it easy. He would have been hit by now. So we can only assume that since he does it easy. That he doesnt get hit. He hasnt been shot yet so we can only assume.
Originally posted by Csdabest
1) game Mechanic to give balance tot he attack.2)In her Ball form. I havent seen no superspeed from her outside of ball form from her. And I have most if not all Metroid games.
3.)Your point. he still has it. Samus suit is a plot device. And half of her armor feats are plot devices. Ryuken is his sword. He doesnt have to be good at it. Give a sniper a sniper rifle he'll make use of it. Give a baby a sniper rifle. You'll have a comercial of gun saftey with children.
4) If he didnt do it easy. He would have been hit by now. So we can only assume that since he does it easy. That he doesnt get hit. He hasnt been shot yet so we can only assume.
1) What is this based on, I have never seen Hayabusa perform a teleport with zero recovery time or start up time. If your claiming it's a game mechanic, I'd like to see some evidence proving so.
2) So, her speed booster is not super speed?
3)My point Samus isn't gonna job for the sake of plot like Vigor did. 😬
What exactly does the "True Dragon Sword" do, besides glow?
4) Except that most of your examples are in game, where we can not tell what occured or did not. And, he has been hit by Alma & Doku.
1)Ninja Gaiden's Ending and a few cutscenes. While performing Inzuna Drop in the game. He tosses the person high in the air teleports and grabs slamming them in the ground. I dont see no recovery time.
2)Is that her speed that she can keep up with no rest or recharge time. Or is it just that. a Booster for temperary use.
3)Give emence spiritial Power. An attack difference. New moves. More spirital power. Gives the ability to cut through ghost. It has shown the ability to cut through energy. So Samus sheilds wont stand up aginst that. Able to go toe 2 toe with the Dark Dragon Blade. A Blade with enough power to rip apart the earth and obliterate beings with a slice. And it full potential have not yet been seen. Most likely and hopefully we will se more from it during Dragon Sword and Ninja Gaiden II
4) If you havent realized Doku and Alma Alma especialy are still fast. Close range combat gives you less time to react and counter. Alma is faster than Ryubusa though. Ryu won from pure skill. And we can asume Ryu didnt get hit. Except from the beginning of The game. If Ryu were to get hit. He would most likely be dead. Same goes for bullets. He would be rather severly injured or dead.
Originally posted by Csdabest
1)Ninja Gaiden's Ending and a few cutscenes.
Which specific cut scenes are you referencing too, because there are many in Ninja Gaiden? His ending, you mean the one where it takes one whole second if not more to cast the spell too disappear?
Originally posted by Csdabest
While performing Inzuna Drop in the game. He tosses the person high in the air teleports and grabs slamming them in the ground. I dont see no recovery time.
Because it's a follow up attack, what type of recovery would exist if he 's using his momentum to follow up an attack? It has a start up time, though.
Originally posted by Csdabest
2)Is that her speed that she can keep up with no rest or recharge time. Or is it just that. a Booster for temperary use.
It does not have to be permanent, since it will not take long to finish up Hayabusa at that speed. One shot and he's cripple, one more and he's dead.
Originally posted by Csdabest
3)Give emence spiritial Power. An attack difference. New moves. More spirital power. Gives the ability to cut through ghost. It has shown the ability to cut through energy
-"Emence Spiritual power" is Hyperbole.
-None of his new moves are granted because of the blade
-What spiritual power did he have to begin with?
-You can hit "Ghost" with any weapon, it's not a feature exclusive to the "True Dragon Blade"
-What energy did it cut through?
Originally posted by Csdabest
Able to go toe 2 toe with the Dark Dragon Blade. A Blade with enough power to rip apart the earth and obliterate beings with a slice. And it full potential have not yet been seen. Most likely and hopefully we will se more from it during Dragon Sword and Ninja Gaiden II
Because it's a plot device and NES Ninja Gaiden isn't part of the New Ninja Gaidens canon.
Originally posted by Csdabest
4) If you havent realized Doku and Alma Alma especialy are still fast. Close range combat gives you less time to react and counter.
But, Samus with Super Speed will not be able to counter at that range?
Originally posted by Csdabest
Alma is faster than Ryubusa though. Ryu won from pure skill. And we can asume Ryu didnt get hit. Except from the beginning of The game.If Ryu were to get hit. He would most likely be dead. Same goes for bullets. He would be rather severly injured or dead.
Except, that he was hit by Alma seeing that during their first encounter it was a Stalemate. Busa' was on one knee and the narration stated that there was no winner, So, it's safe to assume that he was hit. He won the rest of their encounters with the plot device blade.
Originally posted by Csdabest
He would be rather severly injured or dead.
Even though he has potions and Tallismen of Rebirths?
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Which specific cut scenes are you referencing too, because there are many in Ninja Gaiden? His ending, you mean the one where it takes one whole second if not more to cast the spell too disappear?Because it's a follow up attack, what type of recovery would exist if he 's using his momentum to follow up an attack? It has a start up time, though.
It does not have to be permanent, since it will not take long to finish up Hayabusa at that speed. One shot and he's cripple, one more and he's dead.
-"Emence Spiritual power" is Hyperbole.
-None of his new moves are granted because of the blade
-What spiritual power did he have to begin with?
-You can hit "Ghost" with any weapon, it's not a feature exclusive to the "True Dragon Blade"
-What energy did it cut through?Because it's a plot device and NES Ninja Gaiden isn't part of the New Ninja Gaidens canon.
But, Samus with Super Speed will not be able to counter at that range?
Except, that he was hit by Alma seeing that during their first encounter it was a Stalemate. Busa' was on one knee and the narration stated that there was no winner, So, it's safe to assume that he was hit. He won the rest of their encounters with the plot device blade.
Even though he has potions and Tallismen of Rebirths?
1)If i could then then i would have stated. There was nio spell presented at the end. He just jumped off a cliff and flew off.
2)Still shows no recovery time. And of course there is a set up. Because the game mechanics are based of reversals and setting up your opponents for heavy damagage.
3.) Ryu has faced opponents faster than him. Just because you speed gets faster doesnt mean Your bullets are faster. Here Ryu teleports to get away. Samus speed will not equal that of teleportation and I seriously doubt Her speed is that much faster.
4)No it stated fact. Dont downgrade an argument to upgrade yours. Why wouldnt his moves be granted if he ahs the blade. He obviously know how to do them. He has his sword. So no reason he wouldnt be able to do the moves. Ghost are intangible. You can not touch a ghost unless they wanted to be. His upgraded sword gives him enough power. Ghost are spirits and are not of this realm. The spiritual power of the true dragon blade gave the sword the power to cause damage towards ghost. So yes it shows how much spirital power his sword gave him. It cut through the Vigoorian empire energy beams clean. You cant do it with other weapons. I tried and died. So his sword has been shown to cut through energy. Hence why Samus energy sheilds wouldnt hold up. Unless. Devil incarnate evil deity<<<Samus Energy Sheild.
Then samus suit and booster and sheilds are a plot device. samus would not be able to do most if any of the stuff she accomplished with out her suit. she has her suit. Ryu has his Blade. And no Im not talking about the NEs cannon. Even though they are the same character and all. I was not talking about the nes game. Ninja Gaiden: Dragon Sword(DS) its a continium of the story. so no not the nes game. And Ninja Gaiden II is the real sequel to the game. If you saw how I phrased what I said you would see I was talking about future installments. Not past installments.
Like i said earlier. Ryu has faced and beaten people with superior speed. And personal speed does not effect the speed of a what your firing.Examples. Superman. If superman fired a gun. The gun would not get a speed increase to match supermans bullet. Ryu also recieves protection from his Ninpo.
Ryu was not shown getting hit. He was shown dodging and there was no stalemate. Ryu was shown beating original Alma and basicly had alma at his mercy. Reason he didnt finish her off was because Rachel interviened and wanted to do it herself. But couldnt bring herself to kill her own siser allowing her time to do it again.
Ryu beat her the second time but had to Save Rachel. So spared Alma to save Rachel. Only time Alma was shown hitting Ryu was knocking him out of the way. to save his sister. Which showed how much faster Alma is than Ryu. So ryu taking on opponents faster than him is not a problem for him. Cuz of his skill. Plot device or not. He still had the skill and speed to hit her with the blade and avoid her attacks. A plot device would be if the sword actual gave him supernatural abilities That boosted his personal stats like crazy. It is just a weapon. So saying oh. Its a plot device isnt realy are valid argument in this situation. The sword did not amplify Ryu skills or personal power. Just gave the abilitiy to cut ghost and withstand the power of the DDB. He did not demostrate anything out of the ordinary when it came to his own personal ability.
Potions and Talisment of Rebirth are plot device and notvery valid ones either. It never showed Ryu using a Potion or Talisment to heal himself from any injuries. That he had occured. IF he has them it shows even more of a reason why Samus wouldn't beat Ryu in this match. Only time it showed Ryu getting revived was In the beginning of the hgame.
Originally posted by Keollyn
I swear.... this is as simple as a power bomb drop and it's done. This is dragging on unnecessarily.
This is as easy as Ryu performing his spirital ball or beam to destroy Samus,her suit,and her sheild, This is as easy a Ryu Performing His flying swallow with the TDS to go past her sheilds and armor and beheading her. This is as easy as Ryu performing Blade of the undefeatble to Kill her. This is as easy as Ryu performing True Dragon Gleam, This is as easy as ryu performing Storm of the Heavenly dragon. This is as easy as Ryu firing of tank core shells at Samus till she dies. This is as easy as Ryu using explosive arrows till her sheilds fail, This is as easy as ryu using his telekensis which has been shown in a cut scene. This is as easy as ryu using the DDB and letting it consume him turning him into the Devil Incarnate using it powers that was said to be strong enough to tear apart the earth in moments.
So yeah. Its just that simple. So far you have said nothing relevan tor have yet to back up any arguments. But yeah...good for you for stating how simple it is.
Originally posted by Csdabest
1)If i could then then i would have stated. There was nio spell presented at the end. He just jumped off a cliff and flew off
Except that was not teleportation, he simply jumped of the edge of the graveyard. We do not know what happened to him.
Originally posted by Csdabest
2)Still shows no recovery time. And of course there is a set up. Because the game mechanics are based of reversals and setting up your opponents for heavy damagage.
Why would it have a recovery time if he's not trying to recover in the first place? He's following up an attack, recovery time is when your recovering from an action. Hayabusa's follow up was just that, two different things. They have as much in common as apples and oranges?
Of course the reversals are mechanics, but moves themselves are not. How can Inzuna Otoshi be the product of a game, explain?
Originally posted by Csdabest
3.) Ryu has faced opponents faster than him. Just because you speed gets faster doesnt mean Your bullets are faster. Here Ryu teleports to get away. Samus speed will not equal that of teleportation and I seriously doubt Her speed is that much faster.
Her bullets does not have to be faster, The fact is that she can keep up with Ryu shuts down your speed argument. So, his speed is not a real deterrent to Samus's victory. If Ryu has to run away, then he's at a disadvantage. If he slips up, he's dead.
Originally posted by Csdabest
4)No it stated fact. Dont downgrade an argument to upgrade yours. Why wouldnt his moves be granted if he ahs the blade. He obviously know how to do them. He has his sword. So no reason he wouldnt be able to do the moves.
Correlation does not imply causation. If you have proof to the contrary, please post it.
Originally posted by Csdabest
Ghost are intangible. You can not touch a ghost unless they wanted to be. His upgraded sword gives him enough power. Ghost are spirits and are not of this realm. The spiritual power of the true dragon blade gave the sword the power to cause damage towards ghost. So yes it shows how much spirital power his sword gave him.
Except that he does not need RyuKen to cut ghost, his regular melee weapons do the same. Your basing your evidence on some faulty logic. Maybe if Ryuken was the only weapon in Ryu's arsenal capable of performing such a feat, then I would reconsider. But, it is not, all of Ryu's attacks do.
Originally posted by Csdabest
It cut through the Vigoorian empire energy beams clean. You cant do it with other weapons. I tried and died. So his sword has been shown to cut through energy. Hence why Samus energy sheilds wouldnt hold up. Unless. Devil incarnate evil deity<<<Samus Energy Sheild.
When does this happen?
Originally posted by Csdabest
Then samus suit and booster and sheilds are a plot device. samus would not be able to do most if any of the stuff she accomplished with out her suit. she has her suit.
Okay, and the same apply's to Ryu. Difference is that Samus has a clear description on what her suit can do, Ryuken does not. It's all fan made speculation supported by no solid evidence.
Originally posted by Csdabest
Like i said earlier. Ryu has faced and beaten people with superior speed. And personal speed does not effect the speed of a what your firing.Examples. Superman. If superman fired a gun. The gun would not get a speed increase to match supermans bullet. Ryu also recieves protection from his Ninpo.
But, it increases the chances if Samus taking a shot, since she will get more chances to get a clear hit on Ryu.
Originally posted by Csdabest
Ryu was not shown getting hit. He was shown dodging and there was no stalemate. Ryu was shown beating original Alma and basicly had alma at his mercy. Reason he didnt finish her off was because Rachel interviened and wanted to do it herself. But couldnt bring herself to kill her own siser allowing her time to do it again.
That is false, the was no winner. The narration at the start of the chapter exclaims the samething. Both Ryu and Alma were on their knee's at the conclusion of the fight.
Originally posted by Csdabest
Potions and Talisment of Rebirth are plot device and notvery valid ones either. It never showed Ryu using a Potion or Talisment to heal himself from any injuries. That he had occured. IF he has them it shows even more of a reason why Samus wouldn't beat Ryu in this match. Only time it showed Ryu getting revived was In the beginning of the hgame.
Why would he store them if he never took damage? Obviously Ryu must have taken some form of damage if these items are scattered through out the game. Ryu is not much faster than ballistics, seeing he escapes by a hair in DOA 4 cutscene.
Originally posted by Csdabest
This is as easy as Ryu performing his spirital ball or beam to destroy Samus,her suit,and her sheild, This is as easy a Ryu Performing His flying swallow with the TDS to go past her sheilds and armor and beheading her. This is as easy as Ryu performing Blade of the undefeatble to Kill her. This is as easy as Ryu performing True Dragon Gleam, This is as easy as ryu performing Storm of the Heavenly dragon. This is as easy as Ryu firing of tank core shells at Samus till she dies. This is as easy as Ryu using explosive arrows till her sheilds fail, This is as easy as ryu using his telekensis which has been shown in a cut scene. This is as easy as ryu using the DDB and letting it consume him turning him into the Devil Incarnate using it powers that was said to be strong enough to tear apart the earth in moments.So yeah. Its just that simple. So far you have said nothing relevan tor have yet to back up any arguments. But yeah...good for you for stating how simple it is.
Because making an argument for someone who clearly has the advantage is quite pleonastic.
That's like Naruto VS. SSJ3 Goku. Nothing to argue about. Samus power bomb's Ryu to pieces.
yes you guys are making ryu seem like god he is not that damn fast first of all samus has sensors that can detect motion so she could keep a lock on him despite his high speed manouvering plus some of samus guns are energy based some of her guns fire at fast rates like can ryu move fast enouh to out run a rifle bullet that noramly travels at 3times the speed of sound over 2,000mph,plus samus can win if she hits him with her laser becuase the gun fires at the speed of light becuase the laser gun she has is light and lasers are light so if she gets a shot on ryu hes dead becuase he cant go faster then the speed of light and since nothig can go faster then light he cant escape the shot