Originally posted by His Airness
Is that smile an attempt to side step my point? 🙂
Is that sidestepping of my point an attempt to sidestep my point?
Originally posted by His Airness
You say that as if Superman hasn't fought through shields before.
I don't deny that. Doom just needs time to get off an effective spell and stop Supes.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Is that sidestepping of my point an attempt to sidestep my point?I don't deny that. Doom just needs time to get off an effective spell and stop Supes.
You have no or haven't had a point to side step, so no.
When did magic effectively stop Superman in his tracks? Also, whats Dooms most impressive magic feat?
Originally posted by His Airness
You have no or haven't had a point to side step, so no.When did magic effectively stop Superman in his tracks? Also, whats Dooms most impressive magic feat?
If Supes is having trouble dealing with Lex Luther what do you think is going going to happen when he face a smarter villain that knows magic.
Also if prep and the speedblitz was allowed this would be curbstomp for doom.
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
If Supes is having trouble dealing with Lex Luther what do you think is going going to happen when he face a smarter villain that knows magic.Also if prep and the speedblitz was allowed this would be coubstomp for doom.
Lex always has prep when he fights Superman.
Originally posted by His Airness
You have no or haven't had a point to side step, so no.When did magic effectively stop Superman in his tracks? Also, whats Dooms most impressive magic feat?
You mean like how you claimed that Superman is agressive and I was pointing out that he's not very agressive? That nonexistant point.
Ask someone who knows more about Doom for feats but Superman has always been open to magical attacks 😬
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Lex always has prep when he fights Superman.
So should Doom because thats how he operates but this isn't my thread so I have to argue within the rules of it. But theres variables if supes is attacking Doom in his castle theres all kinds of stuff Doom can throw at him. Now if this is just random meeting supes has the advantage but I still think Doom can pull it out.
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
If Supes is having trouble dealing with Lex Luther what do you think is going going to happen when he face a smarter villain that knows magic.Also if prep and the speedblitz was allowed this would be curbstomp for doom.
Lex always has prep when he faces Superman.
Your right, however unfortunately for your argument Doom doesn't get prep.
Superman doesn't know Doom, Doom doesn't know Superman.
if he did know of Superman, he would have kryptonite dust sprayed all over his suit, just for a freak occasion when the man of steel chooses to pay a visit. that's Doom. prepared like a herd of boyscouts. led by Ned Flanders ( 😕 ).
Superman comes in, guns blazing, he smacks into Doom's shield. Doom notes: one flying brick, hostile, powerful, high threat potential.
Doom reacts by upping his defences and looking to buy time to think, analyse and act.
Superman just thinks he's going to punch in the lunatic in a medieval knight's costume.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You mean like how you claimed that Superman is aggressive and I was pointing out that he's not very aggressive? That nonexistant point.Ask someone who knows more about Doom for feats but Superman has always been open to magical attacks 😬
So your implying that when blood lusted, Superman isn't an aggressive character? Would you like to ask Superboy Prime?
So your arguing on speculation?
Yes I agree. However more time than not, Superman fights through his weaknesses and without knowing the full extent of Dooms power it's baseless to assume he could defeat Clark using magic.
Originally posted by janus77
Superman doesn't know Doom, Doom doesn't know Superman.
if he did know of Superman, he would have kryptonite dust sprayed all over his suit, just for a freak occasion when the man of steel chooses to pay a visit. that's Doom. prepared like a herd of boyscouts. led by Ned Flanders ( 😕 ).Superman comes in, guns blazing, he smacks into Doom's shield. Doom notes: one flying brick, hostile, powerful, high threat potential.
Doom reacts by upping his defences and looking to buy time to think, analyse and act.Superman just thinks he's going to punch in the lunatic in a medieval knight's costume.
In other words, you don't know too much about Superman? If you did you'd know that while kryptonite does affect Superman, he's developed a strong resistance against it. It doesn't guarantee a victory.
Originally posted by His Airness
So your implying that when blood lusted, Superman isn't an aggressive character? Would you like to ask Superboy Prime?So your arguing on speculation?
Bloodlusted? Forum bloodlust is just that they're fighting to win.
Originally posted by His Airness
Yes I agree. However more time than not, Superman fights through his weaknesses and without knowing the full extent of Dooms power it's baseless to assume he could defeat Clark using magic.
And the converse is true as well.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Bloodlusted? Forum bloodlust is just that they're fighting to win.And the converse is true as well.
At all cost, thats the definition of bloodlust. The the human propensity to do whatever it takes to survive or achieve a goal, even killing.
I know the extent of Clarks power, your ignorant to Doom's. My point is valid until some sort of refutable evidence is brought to this discussion. 🙂
For those wondering about the magical might of Doom...
Originally posted by His Airness
At all cost, thats the definition of bloodlust. The the human propensity to do whatever it takes to survive or achieve a goal, even killing.
Not at all costs. Still within the characters personality. Did you even read the forum rules?
Originally posted by His Airness
I know the extent of Clarks power, your ignorant to Doom's. My point is valid until some sort of refutable evidence is brought to this discussion. 🙂
You would also seem to be ignorant of Doom's power 😬
So neither of us can make a very good point except that Superman is weak to magic but seems to ignore his weaknesses,
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not at all costs. Still within the characters personality. Did you even read the forum rules?You would also seem to be ignorant of Doom's power 😬
So neither of us can make a very good point except that Superman is weak to magic but seems to ignore his weaknesses,
The forum rule is bloodlust. The definition of bloodlust is the the human propensity to do whatever it takes to survive or achieve a goal, even killing. What exactly are you arguing?
I know Doom finished in second behind Strange in the Sorcerer Supreme contest, a ploy by Doom so that Strange would be obligated to help him save his mother from Mephisto's realm due to the tournament's stipulations, but that feat was more attributed to Doom's intelligence and guile than his overall magic ability.
Superman wins.
Originally posted by His Airness
The forum rule is bloodlust. The definition of bloodlust is the the human propensity to do whatever it takes to survive or achieve a goal, even killing. What exactly are you arguing?
I'm pointing out this little gem.
"It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise."
This isn't Superman going Midnighter on his enemies. This is him trying to win within reason.
Originally posted by His Airness
I know Doom finished in second behind Strange in the Sorcerer Supreme contest, a ploy by Doom so that Strange would be obligated to help him save his mother from Mephisto's realm due to the tournament's stipulations, but that feat was more attributed to Doom's intelligence and guile than his overall magic ability.
Originally posted by darthgoober
For those wondering about the magical might of Doom...
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm pointing out this little gem."It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise."
This isn't Superman going Midnighter on his enemies. This is him trying to win within reason.
So back to my previous question. Must you ask Superboy Prime, or for that matter Luthor?
I know, it's Superman going all out, which includes him being aggressive. 🙂