Originally posted by darthgoober
But WHY could we ask SBP or Lex? Could it be because they're still alive?
Let me retract my point. My point was to say that while bloodlusted Superman has fought aggressively. Ask Prime or Luthor. I know Superman is not a killer, however I do view him as an aggressive character.
Originally posted by His Airness
Is this another side step?No, I just simply believe that being aggressive is included in being bloodlusted. Or would you expect a bloodlusted character to fight lackadaisical?
Come on man. Look at Superman's usual fights and try to honestly tell me he's the kind of guy who goes straight for the killing blow.
There is a reason people usually specify bloodlust when they want characters to go for the kill. Mainly because they don't do that. Agression is not a huge part of Superman's personality which will be holding him back per the rules.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Come on man. Look at Superman's usual fights and try to honestly tell me he's the kind of guy who goes straight for the killing blow.There is a reason people usually specify bloodlust when they want characters to go for the kill. Mainly because they don't do that. Agression is not a huge part of Superman's personality which will be holding him back per the rules.
Nevermind.
Originally posted by His AirnessDoom generates a shield, allowing him a split second of time, which is all he needs.
Which are based on one's focus. How focused will Doom be with Superman is his face? Superman may be restricted to no speedblitzing, but that doesn't mean his speed all together is thrown out.
I think Supes wins, but I'm just pointing out Doom's magic is capable of taking out Supes.
Originally posted by His Airness
Let me retract my point. My point was to say that while bloodlusted Superman has fought aggressively. Ask Prime or Luthor. I know Superman is not a killer, however I do view him as an aggressive character.
I'll agree that Supes would be aggressive(especially since he knows he's fighting Dr. Doom), but he wouldn't be going for the kill unless it became ABSOLUTELY necessary.
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Superman can still throw him into the sun..IMO. Supes' has dealt with smarter villains before..such as Braniac and Darkseid...and has prevailed. Doom can get some wins on Superman but I don't think he could take a majority in chance meetings.
Originally posted by darthgoober
❌Supes might be able to pull a win or two here, but I see Doom taking a solid majority.
I agree that Doom could pull a majority with prep....but, I don't see how he could in random meetings. If Doom was really all of that....he'd be ruling the world right now. If the F4 can stop Doom...then I see no reason why Superman can't either.
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
I agree that Doom could pull a majority with prep....but, I don't see how he could in random meetings. If Doom was really all of that....he'd be ruling the world right now. If the F4 can stop Doom...then I see no reason why Superman can't either.
Originally posted by darthgoober
The FF has Reed Richards, who's about the only guy around that's able to our gadget Doom. In a no PIS fight without speedblitzing as an option, Supes will go down after being trapped by the Bands of Cyttorak and subjected to numerous mystic blast and all the goodies Doom has built into his armor.
But what is Doom is not successful in trapping Superman with the bands of Cytorrak?
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
I agree that Doom could pull a majority with prep....but, I don't see how he could in random meetings. If Doom was really all of that....he'd be ruling the world right now. If the F4 can stop Doom...then I see no reason why Superman can't either.
How is beating superman making it possible for you to take over the world. Nate grey can beat superman but I cant see him taking over the world. Juggernaut without bfring could beat superman but i cant see him taking over the world. Thor can beat superman but I still cant possibly even see him taking over the world.
Without speed blitz doom takes this.
I have another question, not saying that he cant do it but have superman ever thrown someone to the sun. Im talking about from earth to the sun. Or has he thrown a object to the sun. Just want to know.
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
I agree that Doom could pull a majority with prep....but, I don't see how he could in random meetings. If Doom was really all of that....he'd be ruling the world right now. If the F4 can stop Doom...then I see no reason why Superman can't either.
And the ff would stomp a mud hole into supes too with prep. Your really not making much of a point here my friend.