Fantastic Four 546

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I know, it's goofy isn't it.

It was goofy.--"She can't do it because it's too far"shocklaugh

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

No, because one of the defining properties of Power Cosmic is it can do anything. There is no "there's nothing saying it can't do this" because it CAN do that. What the crap? "Pigeon-hole Storm's power"?

Ok, again, by who's deifnition?

I could use the "potential doesn't equate to actually doing" argument.

Just because the wielder appears to be able to do "anything", does not mean they can.

And you're pigeon-holing her for the simple reason that Meterology is an actual "science" in the "real world" and this somehow equates to her not being able to coalesce an enviroment for herself in space, because "Psionic control over the elements" is not a plot device like "Power Cosmic", which by you're interpretaion allows the wielder to do "anything".

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

Her powers are based on logical events, as are hundreds, if not thousands, of characters. She is not in the class of characters whose powers are based on "magic" or reality manipulation. Simple as that.

"Magic", Power Cosmic, reality manipulation is just harnessing the powers of the Universe to do what you need to do.

You could probably ask any "Wicca" what "Magic" is and they'll probably tell you "submit yourself to a higher power, harnessing the power of nature/the universe" whatever whatever.

Religion/prayer is in essence "Magic"--praying to God to change certain things in your life/the world.

Ororo, her x-gene and "Bright Lady" enable her to harness the power of the universe/nature to affect weather/elements whether Cosmic or intra-Earth/Intra-planetary. More Magic.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

For the same reason "explosives" can tear down a building but "Master of Disaster" doesn't let me rip down a skyscraper with my bare hands. One is an actual thing and the other is a title. Possible also given to herself.

🙄 With this line of thinking you'll never get it.

Power Cosmic enables it's wielder to do "anything" through purely seeminlgy endless potential, "Mistress of the Elements" should at least enble Storm to create an atmosphere when she's already done similar.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

When she was one with the space slug? Chances are she was enhanced by it. Did it ever give a mph on her flight? Or did you just assume she was flying at that speed because a nuclear reaction on a star can make it go that fast?

Yea, because she couldn't have possibly done it because.....uhhhhh.........no plot device or corny-ass name like "Power Cosmic" 😕 . It's just her manipulating the powers of the Universe with her mind. 🙄

And the Acanti have a natural ability to fly faster than Light.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

You did. After I made that hilariously racist joke about the "basketball sized hail." I apologize to no one for that.

I didn't ask you to apologize 😆

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

And I'm DJ Phat Rhymes, but that doesn't mean my rhymes were all that phat. Hyperbole.

Ok "Phat" is like so ****ing old. 😘

Don't feel you have to type in "Negro speak" so I can understand.

Power Cosmic= can do anything =wishful thinking/hyberbole.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

I'm sorry if it doesn't meet your ranking of "just under God."

We're all under "God"......indivisable and all that other shit.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

But they're not, not magic and Power Cosmic. Well, Power Cosmic is "natural", but it doesn't have any of limit, which is pretty unnatural.

Space doesn't have "limit". It's supposedly infinite.

Big-Bang singularity

Nature= infinite.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

I can't imagine the infinite energy or whatever theory is popular these days is good for atomic bonds.

😆

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

Monikers are no substitute for substance.

Wishful thinking isn't either.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

"No other way". You say that so often, I wonder what your basis for comparison is.

By the time she left and they plotted her course she was already off the land mass of Australia.--Just under 1200 miles in literally a few minutes.😐

Sorry, if need be, she can do whatever she has to do.

She's Mistress of the Elements.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
It was goofy.--"She can't do it because it's too far"shocklaugh

Ok, again, by who's deifnition?

I could use the "potential doesn't equate to actually doing" argument.

Just because the wielder appears to be able to do "anything", does not mean they can.

And you're pigeon-holing her for the simple reason that Meterology is an actual "science" in the "real world" and this somehow equates to her not being able to coalesce an enviroment for herself in space, because "Psionic control over the elements" is not a plot device like "Power Cosmic", which by you're interpretaion allows the wielder to do "anything".

You could say I'm "pigeon holing" her because creating a worthwhile atmosphere would require a range of half a light-year, with travel time for the particles, so I don't see it happening without the story insulting my intelligence.

This has little to do with meteorology though. Aside from Storm not having the range to perform the feat, she doesn't have the ability to send particles at light speeds. You were insisting she could do that if she had to, no? Well, that ability is completely unrelated to her powers, so her doing it would make little sense.

"Magic", Power Cosmic, reality manipulation is just harnessing the powers of the Universe to do what you need to do.

You could probably ask any "Wicca" what "Magic" is and they'll probably tell you "submit yourself to a higher power, harnessing the power of nature/the universe" whatever whatever.

Religion/prayer is in essence "Magic"--praying to God to change certain things in your life/the world.

Ororo and her "Bright Lady" harnessing the power of the universe/nature to affect weather/elements whether Cosmic or intra-Earth/Intra-planetary.

Maybe this will illustrate it better. If Storm wants that atmosphere in space, there are problems. Even with the leniency of fiction, the amount of oxygen is too minute to be of any use, planetary bodies are millions of miles away. So, she has the issue of the distance and the speeds required to bring the oxygen to her. Her powers, based on a moderate amount of logic, are kinda useless.

Magic/Power Cosmic, if they didn't just allow the user to survive without an atmosphere, could be used to create atmosphere either out of thin air or itself. Or if they have the range, plot device the particles to them. It's magic so it doesn't have the limitations of physics, they could just teleport the stuff to them, or do the warp thing, but that would be pointless since you could just warp or teleport to a planet... but the point is they're not based on any kind of logic.

🙄 With this line of thinking you'll never get it.

Power Cosmic enables it's wielder to do "anything" through purely seeminlgy endless potential, "Mistress of the Elements" should at least enble Storm to do so, when she's already done similar.

Yea, because she couldn;t have possibly done it because.....uhhhhh.........no plot device or corny-ass name like "Power Cosmic" 😕 . It's just her manipulating the powers of the Universe with her mind. 🙄

I didn't ask you to apologize 😆

Ok "Phat" is like so ****ing old. 😘

Don't feel you have to type in "Negro speak" so I can understand.

Power Cosmic= can do anything =wishful thinking/hyberbole.

We're all under "God"......indivisable and all that other shit.

Space doesn't have "limit". It's supposedly infinite.

Big-Bang singularity

Nature= infinite.

😆

Wishful thinking isn't either.

By the time she left and they plotted her course she was already off the land mass of Australia.--Just under 1200 miles in literally a few minutes.😐

Sorry, if need be, she can do whatever she has to do.

She's Mistress of the Elements.

i just remembered something you said, which contradicts what you'd earlier said. you told me that storm didn't die from the exertion of absorbing the galactic core, but from being unaided in space. [nothing really to prove that, but that's your logic.] then you said, if storm needed to, she could absorb physical and spiritual sustenance to survive in space.

well, that's what they said she was doing with the galactic core, and she still seemingly died. so apparently, even in the middle of thousands of stars giving her this "sustenance," it still wasn't enough to let her survive. so, how would her reaching dozens of light years to our next-closest stars to grab some tiny percentage of the "sustenance" she got from the galactic core going to have different results?

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
As opposed to "She can do it because I want her to do it"?

As opposed to "She can't do it because....she can't" with no reason why.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
If you need a bone thrown, I'm pretty sure you couldn't make something that would require more energy than the Power Cosmic itself. Other than that, there's not much it hasn't already done.

Ororo Munroe linked to the omniverse with control over all it's elements to an infinite degree would be>>>>Power Cosmic.

Also, "not much it hasn't already done" does not equal "anything"

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

Well, for one, as I already pointed out, the amount of oxygen in space is so minute that it doesn't matter it's there. Only when she is near a planet would it matter at all, and in that case it would have nothing to do with oxygen in space.

🙄

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

You could say I'm "pigeon holing" her because creating a worthwhile atmosphere would require a range of half a light-year, with travel time for the particles, so I don't see it happening without the story insulting my intelligence.

Yea, by conventional means but Ororo does it with her MIND and SOUL.

Scientifically, the closest thing would probably be something called "Quantum Tunneling" 😕 😆

Im not quite sure of all the facets of that, so we'll just settle for she's does it with her mind. 😉

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

This has little to do with meteorology though. Aside from Storm not having the range to perform the feat, she doesn't have the ability to send particles at light speeds. You were insisting she could do that if she had to, no? Well, that ability is completely unrelated to her powers, so her doing it would make little sense.

And she doesn't have the ability because??

Again, her powers are psionic control over the elements. Oxygen, as well as it's Mother, Hydrogen are elements. She can manipulate them with her mind. That's her "power cosmic" so to speak. There really shouldn't be a hard-pressed attempt to really venture to "explain" it. It just is what it is. I try, though.

It's really no different than her whipping up a self-contained hurricane in millionths a second with no more than conscious thought.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

I don't think you need me to tell you no one cares what Wiccans have to say.

I'm just saying 🙄

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

Maybe this will illustrate it better. If Storm wants that atmosphere in space, there are problems. Even with the leniency of fiction, the amount of oxygen is too minute to be of any use, planetary bodies are millions of miles away. So, she has the issue of the distance and the speeds required to bring the oxygen to her. Her powers, based on a moderate amount of logic, are kinda useless.

She would just do it.

Her power's being based on meteorology are not relevant. She's someohow mentally controlling the components. That's where logic ends and you just have to accept that the elements would just respend to her "call" and get there are what would logically be faster than light speeds in order to transverse whatever distance and get to her.

Her psionic control over the elements is where shit falls apart and pretty much "anything" can happend.

It's the same way a heralds Power Cosmic allow them to shit on Astrophysics.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Magic/Power Cosmic, if they didn't just allow the user to survive without an atmosphere, could be used to create atmosphere either out of thin air or itself. Or if they have the range, plot device the particles to them. It's magic so it doesn't have the limitations of physics, they could just teleport the stuff to them, or do the warp thing, but that would be pointless since you could just warp or teleport to a planet... but the point is they're not based on any kind of logic.

They wouldn't get it out of thin air". The air is "thin", but it's there. If they need Oxgen, they probably use their "Power Cosmic" to bind the Hydrogen atoms up.

Even teleportation can be based on weird, complicated ass science.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

It's just a moniker though. Her actual powers don't entail the ability to summon things from millions of miles away. I'm not about to give her "cred" for her title.

Her powers entail moving/summoning the elements with her mind, nothing more nothing less.😐

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

More like unless it's stated on the panel she's moving that fast it's just your assumption.

😆 Fine

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

I didn't say you did. I was expressing how little remorse I have for the joke.

I don't want you to feel sad.shocklaugh

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

I've seen it do pretty much everything. If considering the extremes will make you feel better, it can't make a second One Above All and probably couldn't remake reality.

Well it can't do "anything"

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

Heh... will you listen to this crap?

There's no way you can prove it wrong.

Originally posted by Disappear
i just remembered something you said, which contradicts what you'd earlier said. you told me that storm didn't die from the exertion of absorbing the galactic core, but from being unaided in space. [nothing really to prove that, but that's your logic.] then you said, if storm needed to, she could absorb physical and spiritual sustenance to survive in space.

well, that's what they said she was doing with the galactic core, and she still seemingly died. so apparently, even in the middle of thousands of stars giving her this "sustenance," it still wasn't enough to let her survive. so, how would her reaching dozens of light years to our next-closest stars to grab some tiny percentage of the "sustenance" she got from the galactic core going to have different results?

This was BEFORE I actually found out that she could coalesce an enviroment in space for real and not metaphysically, then I found out I was actually on to something because she could possibly gain "sustenance" from stars and planets.

it said the page before she seemingly dies that she's receiving this "sustenance" from the galactic core, which is obviously going to give off more than the widespread host of celestial bodies due simply to the fact that it's "thousands of stars in a relatively small volume." on top of that, she directly absorbs the galactic core, taking in the maximum amount of "sustenance" she possibly could from it. and she still seemingly died.

if that wasn't enough to protect her from the "detriment of being in space unaided," how could floating lightyears from the nearest star [a singular star, not a cluster of thousands] possibly allow her to survive via this "sustenance"?

Originally posted by Disappear
it said the page before she seemingly dies that she's receiving this "sustenance" from the galactic core, which is obviously going to give off more than the widespread host of celestial bodies due simply to the fact that it's "thousands of stars in a relatively small volume." on top of that, she directly absorbs the galactic core, taking in the maximum amount of "sustenance" she possibly could from it. and she still seemingly died.

if that wasn't enough to protect her from the "detriment of being in space unaided," how could floating lightyears from the nearest star [a singular star, not a cluster of thousands] possibly allow her to survive via this "sustenance"?

It said she recieves sustenance BEFORE she absorbs the core.

It was a suicide mission, really. She wasn't really trying to stay alive. She wasnted to just get rid of the Brood, and basically not "go out like that".

Other X-men were infected as well, she chose her path.

It was about nobility, a display of power, and a parrallel to Phoenix. 😱

Also, it was millions of Stars.

In th following issue she harvested elements from everywhere all over space to make Lightining.

In a way, she could recieve physical sustenance from a Star by harvesting Oxygen from them, just as she harvested energy in 166. There would be a quasi-scientific basis, and less metaphysical.

it doesn't say that she's taking "elements from everywhere all over space" at all. it says that she's seeing things in terms of energy, that it's harder to control the elements of space, and that she shoots lightning at the ship. your inference is a fangasm, but it's not explained that way. it's not fact, just like all this other shit you're trying to peddle.

if she's getting sustenance from them BEFORE absorbing them, how exactly would she NOT be getting sustenance BY absorbing them? and you really did just pull a 180 there in your reasoning. the holes are starting to show.

Originally posted by Disappear
it doesn't say that she's taking "elements from everywhere all over space" at all. it says that she's seeing things in terms of energy, that it's harder to control the elements of space, and that she shoots lightning at the ship. your inference is a fangasm, but it's not explained that way. it's not fact, just like all this other shit you're trying to peddle.

if she's getting sustenance from them BEFORE absorbing them, how exactly would she NOT be getting sustenance BY absorbing them? and you really did just pull a 180 there in your reasoning. the holes are starting to show.

She did not care about LIVING.

She wanted to die without the brood. If she would have lived, she would be a Brood Queen.

The whole point was destroying the brood.

In 166, she's in the Acanti and gathers electricity from empty space, stars, and solid planets.

The way the universe is, most bodies are light years apart, so she was gathering it from ''all around". I love how you glazed over empty space, brights STARS and SOLID PLANETS.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
As opposed to "She can't do it because....she can't" with no reason why.

Ororo Munroe linked to the omniverse with control over all it's elements to an infinite degree would be>>>>Power Cosmic.

Also, "not much it hasn't already done" does not equal "anything"

🙄

Yea, by conventional means but Ororo does it with her MIND and SOUL.

Scientifically, the closest thing would probably be something called "Quantum Tunneling" 😕 😆

Im not quite sure of all the facets of that, so we'll just settle for she's does it with her mind. 😉

And she doesn't have the ability because??

Again, her powers are psionic control over the elements. Oxygen, as well as it's Mother, Hydrogen are elements. She can manipulate them with her mind. That's her "power cosmic" so to speak. There really shouldn't be a hard-pressed attempt to really venture to "explain" it. It just is what it is. I try, though.

It's really no different than her whipping up a self-contained hurricane in millionths a second with no more than conscious thought.

I'm just saying 🙄

She would just do it.

Her power's being based on meteorology are not relevant. She's someohow mentally controlling the components. That's where logic ends and you just have to accept that the elements would just respend to her "call" and get there are what would logically be faster than light speeds in order to transverse whatever distance and get to her.

Her psionic control over the elements is where shit falls apart and pretty much "anything" can happend.

It's the same way a heralds Power Cosmic allow them to shit on Astrophysics.

By your logic, Bishop could becoming a shapeshifter tomorrow, Jubilee could start warping reality, Angel could start shooting lasers out of his wings. They're somehow able to absorb energy, make mini atomic exposions, and fly on wings that grow on their backs. That's where logic ends and they can do whatever they need to do.

They wouldn't get it out of thin air". The air is "thin", but it's there. If they need Oxgen, they probably use their "Power Cosmic" to bind the Hydrogen atoms up.

Even teleportation can be based on weird, complicated ass science.

They could but it'd only be slightly less trouble than getting the oxygen because hydrogen atoms are something like 4 atoms per square meter or something really sparse like that. They could also make what they need with the magic/Power Cosmic.

And yes, a lot of things can be something. Sometimes they are and sometimes they aren't.

Her powers entail moving/summoning the elements with her mind, nothing more nothing less.😐

I don't want you to feel sad.shocklaugh

Well it can't do "anything"

There's no way you can prove it wrong.

so storm died because she didn't care if she lived? she'd rather have died, having already killed the brood inside her, than lived having killed the brood inside her? because it clearly states that the brood doesn't survive, and neither does storm. if storm could do what you're saying she can, she could have survived.

and, by the way, that doesn't at all contradict the idea you tried throwing together that storm died because of the detriment of space. it all makes perfect sense. she didn't over-exert herself absorbing the galactic core in hopes of killing the brood embryo. she killed it casually, but then just decided it wasn't worth living anymore.

if existing in empty space would have killed her, as you say, she could've just floated around and died, killing the brood with her. it's long established that killing a brood's host kills the brood.

i really think you just grab the first thing that pops into your mind and try to pass it as canonical reasoning. explaining to you that you're wrong is as fruitless as explaining to a kid that santa doesn't exist, just after he got his picture taken with him at the mall. you're only willing, perhaps only capable, of seeing things the way you immediately grasp them without consideration to the plethora of facts and alternate explanations that are being thrown at you.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
If that's what you've gotten out of this than you haven't understood a single thing I've posted.

You've haven't come up with a vable reason why she can't.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

Ehh... a squirrel linked to the omniverse with control over all its elements to an infinite degree would be >>>> Power Cosmic. What's your point? Storm can't do that thus far.

She doesn't control elements.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

You ***** over literal meanings a lot. I'll rephrase it, the Power Cosmic can do anything within the confines of the universe it's in. These are the limits of any non-multiversal power.

That's not "anything".

And "within the confines" mean it abides by the laws of which it was forged--the Universe-- thus, it can't do "anything".

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
There's minute traces of gold in some riverbeds. Does that mean if I had control over gold I could exude a ton of gold out of a riverbed?

If you truly controled Gold, and if your degree of Control was comparable to Ororo, sure.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

Oh, her soul too? I'll light some incense and crap a version of myself that gives a damn.

Yep, her soul.

You go right ahead and do that.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

This is all well and good but has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Warp speed is not an element.

it isn't real either.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

By your logic, Bishop could becoming a shapeshifter tomorrow, Jubilee could start warping reality, Angel could start shooting lasers out of his wings. They're somehow able to absorb energy, make mini atomic exposions, and fly on wings that grow on their backs. That's where logic ends and they can do whatever they need to do.

Well, we do know Storm can move atoms/electrons with her mind in Space at whatever undetermined speed and by whatever undetermined means. What is the precedence for Bishop, Jubilee, and Angel doing the stuff you just meantioned?

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
"Thin air" is an expression used to mean "nothing."

They could but it'd only be slightly less trouble than getting the oxygen because hydrogen atoms are something like 4 atoms per square meter or something really sparse like that. They could also make what they need with the magic/Power Cosmic.

Whitin this universe, or any other, they'd be making it out of something regardless or otherwise, the universe itself would not exist.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

What, no warp speed?

I don't see why not. 😎

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

Are you just randomly picking definitions from dictionary.com when you look up a word I use? I don't feel sad, that's the point.

And I don't want you to. Why feel the need to reaffirm that you don't, unless you really do?

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

See above.

*looks above* 🙄 I'm right, it can't do anyhting.

Thanx, I almost forgot.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

One of us tells the truth, and one of us always lies.

Is that the best you've got?? 😱

shocklaugh

the implication of the gold was that there isn't enough gold within the riverbed to form a ton, and regardless of ability to control it, someone controlling less than a ton of gold cannot MAKE a ton of gold appear. the same applies to storm's ability to create an atmosphere when there simply aren't enough components within her range to do so. unless she's suddenly an alchemist, too, and can fuse nuclei of several smaller elements while selectively releasing and rearranging their electrons, to create an atmosphere where none exists.

that IS something the power cosmic is capable of, by the way. not storm, though

Originally posted by Disappear
so storm died because she didn't care if she lived? she'd rather have died, having already killed the brood inside her, than lived having killed the brood inside her? because it clearly states that the brood doesn't survive, and neither does storm. if storm could do what you're saying she can, she could have survived.

and, by the way, that doesn't at all contradict the idea you tried throwing together that storm died because of the detriment of space. it all makes perfect sense. she didn't over-exert herself absorbing the galactic core in hopes of killing the brood embryo. she killed it casually, but then just decided it wasn't worth living anymore.

if existing in empty space would have killed her, as you say, she could've just floated around and died, killing the brood with her. it's long established that killing a brood's host kills the brood.

i really think you just grab the first thing that pops into your mind and try to pass it as canonical reasoning. explaining to you that you're wrong is as fruitless as explaining to a kid that santa doesn't exist, just after he got his picture taken with him at the mall. you're only willing, perhaps only capable, of seeing things the way you immediately grasp them without consideration to the plethora of facts and alternate explanations that are being thrown at you.

Cool. 😎

translation: "i've run out of ways to ramble on and on, not saying anything, and attempting to refute what you're saying."

Originally posted by Disappear
the implication of the gold was that there isn't enough gold within the riverbed to form a ton, and regardless of ability to control it, someone controlling less than a ton of gold cannot MAKE a ton of gold appear. the same applies to storm's ability to create an atmosphere when there simply aren't enough components within her range to do so. unless she's suddenly an alchemist, too, and can fuse nuclei of several smaller elements while selectively releasing and rearranging their electrons, to create an atmosphere where none exists.

that IS something the power cosmic is capable of, by the way. not storm, though

He doesn't control gold then.

He said "riverbeds".(Plural)

If he controls gold the way Storm controls elements, it shouldn't be a problem.

Originally posted by Disappear
translation: "i've run out of ways to ramble on and on, not saying anything, and attempting to refute what you're saying."

Nope. Just want to give you a breather by not tearing that shit to shreds, thus forcing to to go examine one panel of the brood arc to come up with some more bullshit.

shocklaugh

Well, I'm out.

I think I've caused you two enough stress.shocklaugh

I can't wait until the next issue and Uncanny.

i accept your surrender.

to be clear, however, you've rarely directly addressed what was said. and rarer still was anything torn to shreds. so, sorry. you failed.

The only stress I feel after talking to 2cloud is stress on my psychological libido. I feel like the Magician Humrphy, master of knowledge and logic.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
You've haven't come up with a vable reason why she can't.

She doesn't control elements.

That's not "anything".

And "within the confines" mean it abides by the laws of which it was forged--the Universe-- thus, it can't do "anything".

If you truly controled Gold, and if your degree of Control was comparable to Ororo, sure.

Yep, her soul.

You go right ahead and do that.

it isn't real either.

Well, we do know Storm can move atoms/electrons with her mind in Space at whatever undetermined speed and by whatever undetermined means. What is the precedence for Bishop, Jubilee, and Angel doing the stuff you just meantioned?

Bishop controls energy and energy rules the universe. Right there the logic is gone so he can just transfer energy from atom to atom until his form is changed.

Jubilee splits atoms or whatever psionically and right there the logic is gone so she can use the energy from the atoms to split reality where she needs to.

Angel has wings on his back. Right there the logic is gone so he could grow lenses in the tips of his wings like the ones in our eyes, only harder, and grow light emitting diodes that produce enough energy to form a laser. If he needs power, he can use his healing powers. Energy rules the the universe and his healing transfers energy so... he can just shapeshift like bishop if he wanted to.

Whitin this universe, or any other, they'd be making it out of something regardless or otherwise, the universe itself would not exist.

And I don't want you to. Why feel the need to reaffirm that you don't, unless you really do?

Is that the best you've got?? 😱

shocklaugh

Originally posted by 2damnloud
He doesn't control gold then.

He said "riverbeds".(Plural)

If he controls gold the way Storm controls elements, it shouldn't be a problem.

The first thing I would say if I saw myself do that, because I have that kind of power, isn't "Hey, me, you sure are a Master of Gold!" but rather "Hey ugly, where the **** did you get all that gold?! There's not that much gold in that river. But since you have it, let's go smash some people with it."