Originally posted by katelovespirate
Well, before anyone freaks out, I'll start by saying, SPOILERS, and, for fairness, it was a very well-made film in terms of the technical side.I'd like to begin by giving a brief sum-up of the movie:
300+ innocent victims die to make a political jab at Bush and the Patriot Act. Kid with bizarrely obvious braces sings a song with no tune. Poor taste naked Lizzie jokes ensue, bad hair all around, as Singapore is entirely destroyed by a monkey who gets more screen time than all the main characters combined.
Beckett drinks extreme amounts of tea, whilst Davy Jones cries copiously about some chick that broke his heart like, a million years ago. (get over it, dude). Will betrays everyone to save the skeezy father that abandoned him and his mom to go off with his drinking buddies. Elizabeth kisses every man in sight, variously screaming over the many people close to her who die tragically (and often by the hand of previously mentioned skeezy father). James' wig makes an unfortunate reappearance.
The writers, having no further clever or funny things for Jack to do, try to make up the slack by having 10 Jacks on screen at any given moment. Gratuitous skin scenes abound. Flow charts hopeless in tracking the endless betrayals.
Calypso makes her way through Gulliver's Travels, Elizabeth finds time for shopping for a new wardrobe, while Will and Elizabeth's relationship completely deteriorates, only to magically resolve itself by a bizzare decision to tie the knot in the midst of an epic battle. The film arbitrates between an extremely gory episode of CSI, and a miserable attempt to be epic like Lord of the Rings. Appendages are pulled off during bad weather, and an electric guitar takes the film into a Rent-like lurch away from pirate film and into the realm of bad dream after too many drugs.
Jack continues to be massively hott.
The entire royal navy decides to leave the pirates alone after one of their ships is destroyed. Jack and Elizabeth make a parachute, and Sparrabeth finally dies as fans everywhere realize the writers are giggling behind the camera.
Will and Elizabeth share the most cheesy fan-fic/bad romance novel honeymoon sequence of all time, making fans across the nation gape and pull their much higher quality honeymoon fics out to enjoy. Elizabeth obtains funky lingerie from the middle of nowhere. Worst possible ending is decided upon, as the couple gets no happily ever after, Jack loses his ship, character arcs flop. On a positive note, Gibbs finally gets some.
first off. katelovespirates!! i'm so happy you and lovleyone are still on here!! yay!! i've like disappeared for a year. hah. school will do that to day. but yesterday was my last day- so that means i'll be on here 24/7 like the old days. yipee!! 😄!
second off. your summary... is genius. i'm so serious, you should become a critic! haha. even though i did like the movie, that summary was hysterical. it made me laugh out loud... dang.
third off. here's my opinion. :] i agree with pretty much everything you said. and you know i'm a HUGE jack/liz fan. but for some reason i wasn't mad about them ending up together. i noticed this when davy stabbed will in the heart and i GASPED, i was like 'NO!! you can't do that!!" haha. as for gory- i so agree! as amazing as it was, that maelstrom [sp!?] scene went on WAY too long. after all was said and done and the credits were rolling my sister and i sat there and were like, "i can't decide if i liked that." i agree the plot was shallower also. digital graphics were absolutely astonishing. jack wasn't as witty. and never said "oh bugger" which i was waiting for the whole movie. overall i did like it- but what's weird, is i pretty much completely agree with you.
How do we know that Will is released after 10 years? Is it in a press release or something? Because I have always been a hard core Will/Liz fan and I was DEVASTED from the second Davey Jones stabbed him until I saw Liz with their son at the end. It just doesn't seem right that they aren't REALLY together. It was incredibly disappointing to me, so hearing this info makes it a lot better to me 🙂
Ah, I enjoyed the film, and I thought it was even better the second time around.
I had hated the multiple Jacks, but I see what they're for now, and I like them. I love how Jack finally gets rid of them, and if you pay attention, you'll see how he becomes himself again by the time the film is over.
I really enjoyed all the W/E scenes, and I enjoyed it when they were separated, because it gave them time to think and to understand each other a bit more. They made up during the parley scene, and their good-bye was incredible.
It's very subtle, but if you watch that scene closely, you see that Will has released her from her vows...it's why he doesn't kiss her, why he looks at her that one last time, because he doesn't expect her to wait. Elizabeth understands immediately when he pulls away what he's thinking, and she races after him to reassure him that she will wait.
I think that was just beautifully handled, and I like how they changed it from the first draft...that Will and Liz didn't use words, that they did not cheapen that moment with silly lines, but instead that incredible kiss.
I loved that at the end we see that Elizabeth and Will have a child. Check out Liz's clothes; they are NICE. Whatever she's been up to, it has been successful. 😄 I loved Will's return. Very nice.
The scene where Will dies is stunning. Davy Jones really showed what a bastard he was, first by stabbing Will, and then by shoving the sword in deeper and then twisting it. Poor Will, I can't even imagine how much that hurt. Elizabeth's reaction, Jack's reaction, Bootstraps' reaction....all of it is just incredible.
Bootstrap cutting out Will's heart? Shocking, unbelievable. I loved it.
What else? Oh yes, the marriage in the middle of the battle. Great moment, lots of fun.
My Norribeth kiss!!!!!! *squees of happiness* The dog with the keys, yay! Keith Richards...woot!!! The Bretheren meeting, the hangings in the beginning...sad, sad, but nice way of looping the beginning and ending of the film together.
Davy and Calypso...beautiful. I wish that they had made it a little clearer on how the curse was broken, but due to unfortunate editing, we don't fully understand how that works.
Terry addressed it on Wordplayer, as well as the silly ideas some people have in their head that Elizabeth and Will wouldn't try (and possibly find) a way to bend the rules of the curse, or that Elizabeth remained land-locked and was 'only' a mother. As Terry said, Elizabeth is still Pirate King. 😄
I am a bit peeved on Norrington's death, because I think they could have handled it differently and still had him die nobly, but that's really my only complaint.
I was a little annoyed that the monkey and Barbossa had so much screentime, I felt some editing prevented understanding of storylines, but all in all, I really enjoyed the film. I'm going to see it tomorrow, again. 😄 Third time; it should be fun. 😄
I saw At Worlds End again today!! 🙂 Yay Me!! And I Loved it Even More!!! I've Even accepted Willabeth (But I still Believe Jack and Liz so Belong together) lol!
But u Know, not every question was answered i still want to know...What Mark did JACK leave on BECKETT??? Did i miss it? or did they not say?
bunch of crap
i want my 3 hours back
i had to go as i was the minority last night
another shite blockbuster to sit alongside Spidey 3
its funny that this movie is on about 5 screens at my local cinema whilst the critically lauded THIS IS ENGLAND hasnt even graced the screens there
we didnt get Grindhouse here but yet we get overblown tripe like this with cinemas chock full of mr and mrs average scoffing their popcorn and jizzing all over the seats wholl go to see any big budget shite whilst original outstanding flicks such as This Is England and Pans Labyrinth make peanuts
yawnsome and the critics are right -a two star movie
Originally posted by jdl1224
first off. katelovespirates!! i'm so happy you and lovleyone are still on here!! yay!! i've like disappeared for a year. hah. school will do that to day. but yesterday was my last day- so that means i'll be on here 24/7 like the old days. yipee!! 😄!second off. your summary... is genius. i'm so serious, you should become a critic! haha. even though i did like the movie, that summary was hysterical. it made me laugh out loud... dang.
third off. here's my opinion. :] i agree with pretty much everything you said. and you know i'm a HUGE jack/liz fan. but for some reason i wasn't mad about them ending up together. i noticed this when davy stabbed will in the heart and i GASPED, i was like 'NO!! you can't do that!!" haha. as for gory- i so agree! as amazing as it was, that maelstrom [sp!?] scene went on WAY too long. after all was said and done and the credits were rolling my sister and i sat there and were like, "i can't decide if i liked that." i agree the plot was shallower also. digital graphics were absolutely astonishing. jack wasn't as witty. and never said "oh bugger" which i was waiting for the whole movie. overall i did like it- but what's weird, is i pretty much completely agree with you.
heya! 🙂 welcome back--- hopefully it WILL be just like the old days... the good old days after film 2... oh gee... lol. 🙂
I agree with everything you said--- it was definitely a moment of decision when the credits were rolling.
It's at the end of the credits. A little boy comes running through a field of grass, singing the "Drink Up Me Hearties" song, Elizabeth, looking lovely in a fairly simple but nice skirt, blouse and vest dealie comes up behind him. They look out at the sea over a cliff.
As the sun sets, there is a green flash, and then the Dutchman appears. Liz breaks out into a smile, and then we see Will, holding onto some lines as the Dutchman sails closer to land.
Then the film ends. The kid is cute, and although I know people will argue with me, I think he looks a lot like Orlando did as a kid. Young Will Turner. Awww.
The problem is, one important line got cut from the film. With the green flash, it means the curse is broken for Will, and he is no longer captain of the Dutchman. 😄 So now he's allowed to be with his wife and son. Yay!
It was the biggest pack of shite I have ever seen!. Now thats out of the bag what the hell was this movie about.
There are too many plot lines trying to resolve themselves in this movie. It became a case of who want's to kill who and them forgetting why the want to kill that person.
The begining had more dialog then the bible. Everyone practacally spoke out COTBP and DMC as if the audience are idiots.
The end was rushed reguarding the will/liz thing. Really weird to have her suddenly scream "You thought I loved him" Which is so F**king obvious in DMC and the begining of the film. That line was out of the blue.
The middle was nothing but fighting and endless bickering over who's betraying who. It happened soo much that I completely lost track.
Please explain why Tia was so sad and wanted her man back, but then betrayed him. Please tell me why he went to kill her and then say he loves her, only to be betrayed.
WTF is with Liz kissing everyone and looking at them like she has loved them for an eternity. ****!!!!. Oh poor Jack, Oh poor Will, Oh poor James, I was waiting for her slip a tougne to good old Barbossa. She even gave him the same look!!!.
I'm gonner have to see it again to try and figure out what on gods earth happened.
For christ sake. One or two betrayal plots at a time not 20!!!!.
It is as if they planned the story, got half way through the filming and took a 360degrees to failure.
How can TPTB get it sooo wrong. What a waste of opportunity.
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Well … I THOUGHT IT WAS SENSATIONAL! I LOVED IT! True, I thought some bits were a little far-fetched so I’ll get them out of the way then I’ll move onto the best!
Maybe Tia growing to the size of a giant when they released Calypso from her was far-fetched and looked a little ‘fanfictiony’ to me. Also, I’m sad to say I can tell the reporters are going to love ripping AWE to shreds; they will probably all hate it. Also, disappointed Lizzy chose to go back to society. I know she had a child but, hmmmm - at least what I don’t understand is why she couldn't’t live on the Flying Dutchman with Will, and I see nothing wrong with that. I mean if it can’t be Sparrabeth, why couldn't’t they make Willabeth a happier relationship? But I still don’t mind it that much; there’s a good chance Liz’ll grow bored and head back to Jack … lol! Other than it being maybe a little to bigger plotline for some – I thought it was brilliant and now I’m going to start raving about it!
Okay – three words –
Dark
Deep
Dramatic
That’s how I describe it! You’re gripped right from the beginning, how horrific to open a movie hanging a little boy – let alone all those innocent people too. The effect of dropping them all and showing just their feet falling through the gallows – absolutely terrifying and macabre but very effective! It really sets how terrible Beckett’s character is.
Then the acting was incredible! I have to say Keira Knightley stood out among them all. Three times men fell down dead in a way in front of her, and her reactions and her crying and screaming and begging – it brought you straight in, it totally exposed her character. We saw every side of Elizabeth Swann, and how much Keira Knightley has grown with that character. In AWE, compared to CotBp, I can just see how much stronger, braver, better – everything she has become. And I felt so deeply for her, the way she lead the pirates, “By the sweat on our brows, the strength in our backs, the courage in our hearts … (something) … they’ll hear the swishing of our swords, the blast of our canons … (something) … they’ll know we are free pirates, and we’ll fight for freedom! (Something) … hoist the colours!” Absolutely incredible line, so much like Braveheart. I’ve only seen AWE once and because it was such a special line I remember so much of it, except I can’t remember it all, but I loved it anyway! I just think it’s fantastic how Elizabeth Swann opened up and was so vulnerable to the audience, we saw the real her! Particularly when they came across Governor Swann, (oh, how sad when Jack put his hand on her shoulder and the realization that took over Elizabeth’s face), and then when she kissed Norrington (YES!) and asked him to come, only then was Norrington was run through – and Elizabeth’s screams of disbelief in the water … so powerful, so sad … I couldn't’t move for ten minutes after that scene!
So a big Congratulations to Keira Knightley!
And of course to the rest of the cast! Absolutely terrific, special mentions to Johnny Depp (of course – especially how he talked to the multiple Jack Sparrows around him, hilarious and wonderful idea), Orlando Bloom – marvellous, didn’t know where his character was heading, locked up in it the whole time, Geoffrey Rush, what can I say, fantastic to have him back on board, he is an awesome character and should never be forgotten like Jack Sparrows’. Big applause to Tom Hollander – sensational, Kevin McNally, Mackenzie Crook and Lee Arenberg (loved every second of them on screen – huge credit and claps to them – well done), what we saw of Jack Davenport … sob and of course how could you not include Bill Nighy and Stellan Skarsgard! Every expression, very move – incredible – especially because since all they to work with is their eyes. They have either a face of tentacles or a starfish of a cheek, so they don’t have alot to act with – except their eyes, and just every emotion shines out from them, and it’s so easy to understand what they are feeling! So applause to the cast!
I have to many favourite bits so - I’m going to name my top ten, lol – I couldn't’t narrow it down anymore –
1) Jack and Elizabeth parachuting away from the Flying Dutchman
2) The scene where Will is stabbed, Davy is stabbed – you know the climax is the absolute highest there
3) Jack and Davy sword fighting along the mast
4) Norrington’s final scene
5) Jack opening scene in purgatory
6) The ending scenes – from where Jack is going to show Giselle and Scarlet the Black Pearl through to Barbossa and crew until the ending moment where Jack is sing Yo Ho A pirates Life For Me in his dinghy, lol. (May I point out how he is singing the song Lizzy taught him again … oh, WHY! Why did they tease us? Ah well!).
7) Where the crew “rescue” Jack from purgatory, very funny and tense, especially between Jack and Elizabeth
8) Beckett slowly walking down the stairs of his ship before it finally blows up
9) The pirate Lord ceremony and when Elizabeth enters and the voting up until the last bit with Teague and Sparrow – hilarious
10) (I may put several bits down because I just couldn't’t pick top ten) Governor Swann in his boat, sailing past At World’s End, truly emotional scene.
11) Jack and Barbossa’s scene on the Black Beach when they find the Kraken dead, some very good dialogue and terrific background amusement by Ragetti and Pintel.
12) The scene between Tia and Davy – very tense and sad.
13) When they go over the edge of the World.
14) Rocking the boat and flipping it over back to our world.
15) Where Will leads the mutiny with Captain Sao Feng against Jack + crew, with Jack’s line about “No one coming to save him just because they missed him”.
16) Mullroy and Murtogg coming back into film and becoming pirates – terrific idea! Especially how yet again Jack got past just while they were jabbering away.
17) The hint that Ragetti may of liked Tia Dalma.
18) The scene when Pintel tells Jack and Barbossa off.
19) The telescope bits between Barbossa and Jack.
20) Gibbs and his teddy bear/getting slapped.
21) Jack’s new pirate flag – skull with a bandana and a red sparrow.
22) Elizabeth and Bootstrap’s scene, just how Bootstrap forgot he had just finished talking to Elizabeth, and then he started repeating the exact same conversation he had just had. How desperate Elizabeth looked, very emotional and powerful!
23) Elizabeth’s and Will’s and marriage, very creative (all the Sparrabeths shake fists at me, but I’ll have them know I am a Sparrabeth!).
24) And last but not least the scene between Jack, Barbossa and Elizabeth, and Will, Beckett and Davy. Very strong scene.
So all in Awe, what a brilliant movie and fantastic end to the story of a fantastic trilogy? So thankyou Gore, Jerry, Ted, Terry and the whole crew and Disney, for creating this magical world for us!