Lightsaber Skill and Force Powers

Originally posted by darthsith19
NJO Luke: 10+
Tulak Hord: 10
Darth Bane (in his prime): 9.997 (would be just 9.9 or 9.85 without Orbalisks, but saying for Bane in his prime is total speculation, anyways).
DE Sidious: 9.88
DE Luke: 9.72 but 9.82 by Empire's End.
Kol Skywalker: 9.7
Kyle Katarn/Kas'im: 9.65
Exar Kun: 9.6
Mace Windu (AOTC/ROTS): 9.5
Ulic-Qel Droma: 9.45
ROTS Anakin in state he's in when he kills Dooku: 9.5
Yoda: 9.4
ROTS Sidious: 9.35
ROTS Vader (in normal state): 9.35
PoD Bane: 9.3
ROTS Anakin (in normal state): 8.999999864 (I'd give him a 9, Gillard says he's a 8 before turning to the dark side, though)
ROTS Obi-Wan: 8.99641
ROTS Count Dooku: 8.89
EU Genera; Grievous: 8.84 (should be above Dooku, imho, but LOE says Dooku can barely beat him).
Volfe Karkko: 8.84
Cin Drallig: 8.8
Darth Maul: 8.8
Kopecz: 8.65 (kind of a guess)
Anoon Bondara: 8.57 (he supposedly is ahead of Yoda, but I don't buy that. But he did seem pretty close to Maul - just because right away he could tell that maul was stronger means nothing since Qui-Gon could tell, too. If Anoon hadn't killed himself in an attempt to kill Maul, too, I suspect that the duel would have lasted a little while).
Darth Maul (in his not-at-full-strength state before duel at Theed): 8.48
Sora Bulq: 8.48
Depa Billaba: 8.46 (idk why, but I can't put her quite in Maul and Bulq's level, though she likely is).
ROTS General Grievous: 8.5
ESB Vader: 8.45
ANH Obi-Wan: 8.435
Obsession Asajj: 8.43
Agen Kolar: 8.43
Plo Koon: 8.43
Ki-Adi Mundi: 8.39
Quinlan Vos: 8.39
Luminara Unduli: 8.35
TPM Qui-Gon Jinn: 8.15
Kit Fisto: 8.0
Shaak Ti: 8.0
A'Sharad Hett (ROTS): 8.0
J'ai Maruk: 7.95
TPM "Dark Side" Kenobi: 7.95 (but tires down past 7 in under a minute)
Tsui Choi: 7.93
K'kruhk: 7.91
Aayla Secura: 7.85
Aurra Sing: 7.84
Roan Shryne: 7.77
Jastus Farr: 7.77
Tholme: 7.75
ROTJ Luke: 7.71
Glaive: 7.5
Roblio Darté: 7.3
Sirak: 7.3
AOTC Obi-Wan: 7.25
AOTC Anakin: 7.1
TPM Kenobi: 6.991
Bol Chatak: 6.85
Tol Skorr: 6.5 (stupid, he should be about 7.5 but he has to be about 6.5 for Quinlan to have pwnd him so badly).
Coleman Trebor: 6.5
ESB Luke Skywalker: 5.0 (by the end of the film)
Magnaguard: 3.0

Jacen Solo: ???
Darth Revan: Low to mid 9?
Darth Malak: High 8, low 9?
Darth Traya: Low 9?
Darth Nihilus: Low to mid 8?
The Jedi Exile: ???

I'm not going to try and do a Force list.

Ok, does everyone need to comment the post? The thread asked for opinions, that's what he gave.

Originally posted by kamikz
Ok, does everyone need to comment the post? The thread asked for opinions, that's what he gave.

And?

You realize, of course, that no one gives a shit what you say, or what the purpose of the thread may be, as comments like that are expected to be made if you post such ridiculous things. So, quit your yapping.

Originally posted by darthsith19
I'm not going to try and do a Force list.

I wouldn't suggest it either, considering your lightsaber list. Oops! I commented.

That's an unusual choice of avatar, Adventy-poo [sweet nickname, eh?]. 😛

Originally posted by Advent
And?

You realize, of course, that no one gives a shit what you say,

I care 🙁

Originally posted by kamhal

Also, i would like proofs that bane>vader. Bane, people like it or not, had showed huge force power.

What the hell is this? Where are these numbers coming from?

Opinion😛

Originally posted by Advent
And?

You realize, of course, that no one gives a shit what you say, or what the purpose of the thread may be, as comments like that are expected to be made if you post such ridiculous things. So, quit your yapping.

And I don't really give a shit what YOU say about that either, I just think it's unnecessary when people state the same thing over and over. It so helps when people state the same opinion over and over again with nothing new to say, it was apparent that he said it only because you guys said it was bad.

And if you read my post, I asked if everyone really had to, I told nobody to stop, just giving DS a break.

Force Powers:
Legacy of the Force Luke - 11
Palpatine Reborn - 10
Darth Nihilus- 9
Master Yoda - 8.5

Originally posted by kamikz
And I don't really give a shit what YOU say about that either

Feisty for such a loser, aren't we?

I just think it's unnecessary when people state the same thing over and over. It so helps when people state the same opinion over and over again with nothing new to say

I laughed out loud.

And like I already said, it doesn't really matter what you think. Why don't you reprimand the majority of posters, who in a versus thread just say "X FTW!", and then nearly every post after that contains a similar notion? It's the same exact situation.

it was apparent that he said it only because you guys said it was bad.

Relevance? Who cares if he possibly made the remark based on our posts, it's entirely irrelevant.

And if you read my post

Why would I waste my time on something as stupid as that?

I asked if everyone really had to, I told nobody to stop, just giving DS a break.

Where did I say or imply that you told anyone to 'stop'? I stated plain as day that if you post things that are wrong on so many levels, you're expected to get your ass chewed out. So darthsith had it coming, and everyone on the forum has a right to tell him the same thing if they feel that way.

Anyways, that was a waste of time. Have a nice day!

Yeah, that was a waste of time. Seriously, stop bringing up such small insults when they aren't even necessary. Why the hell do you make such a big deal out of it? I asked why people neeeded to state it when it was it was already said by other people (I never said it couldn't be said, I asked why it had to be so many goddamn times, just for the heck of it. The thread isn't about people stating how much they hate "that" post), hence I was trying to give DS a break from all that.
I didn't say people could never, ever, post their opinions on other threads, but when it comes to just bringing down someone when that is not even the point here, I think it's unnecessary.

So there, whatever, end of "discussion".

Anyway, beside those irrelevant posts, when was Lord Nyax featured? Was it by like Jedi Academy or NJO? If it is by NJO, shouldn't he be above Luke in swordsmanship, seeing how even for Luke, Mara and another jedi (don't remember who) it was out of the question to even try to confront him saber wise.

He was featured during the New Jedi Order series of books, so if that's true, then I'd assume yes.

If I remember correctly, Nyax had consumed a Force nexus beneath the Jedi Temple in order to perform such a feat. I don't have my copy of Rebel Stand on hand, however. I'll have to do some research. But I do recall that he had lightsabers on his hands, knees, legs, and likely his penis, too. Which is pretty stupid, but, ah well.

Lol!

😆

And that is why your not taken seriously round herr.

Darthsith, why did you rank RotS Obi-Wan higher than Count Dooku as a duelist? That's absolute bullshit. Dooku is more experienced and much more refined; the only reason that he was unable to tool Obi-Wan's ass is a.) He had to fight off Anakin, too and b.) Obi-Wan's Soresu makes him capable of defending himself from Count Dooku - or just about any duelist - for long periods of time. But offensively? He's screwed. He can't outduel Dooku.

Furthermore, why is AotC Obi-Wan higher than AotC Anakin? Dooku considered Anakin more of a threat than Obi-Wan at that time, too, and Anakin actually made Dooku work for his victory, unlike Obi-Wan.

While it may be a "long list", it's riddled with nothing but sheer idiocy.

Originally posted by darthsith19
And why is that?

If it wasn't obvious already, because you clearly have no clue what you're talking about.

The novel states that Dooku was unable to get past Kenobi's defenses with a saber, which is why he had to use the Force on him.

No, it said that Count Dooku didn't realize Obi-Wan's Ataru had been a ploy, hence he didn't notice none of his attacks were successful. It then goes on to note that because both Obi-Wan and Anakin had been restraining themselves, that they could possibly defeat him now since all their cards had been laid out on the table.

Since he didn't want to take any chances, he seperated the duo. If you have proof otherwise, put up or shut up.

Kenobi lasted a hell of a long time against Anakin as well, and Anakin is above Dooku.

You're not looking at why the fight between Obi-Wan and Darth Vader was much longer.

Kenobi knew Anakin like the back of his hand, likewise with Anakin, however, that sheer fact alone would prolong the duel, coupled with Obi-Wan's Soresu, and that he needed to resort to giving ground, and other various tricks (lava skating, platform jumping, etc.).

Where does it say that Anakin was a bigger threat that Obi-Wan?

The AotC novel, which makes it clear that Count Dooku had to work harder to keep Anakin at bay than he had to work for Obi-Wan.

Kenobi was very tired when he fought Dooku, he had had no food or water, and very little rest for how many days?

And Anakin wasn't? He, unlike Obi-Wan, was blasted by Force lightning, aside from the fighting he did on Geonosis (in the arena, and the attempted rescue).

Pathetic excuse.

And what part about it is "idiocy?

Exar Kun above Anakin Skywalker, Yoda, Mace Windu, and Darth Sidious?

Kol Skywalker above Anakin Skywalker, Yoda, Darth Sidious, Count Dooku, Mace Windu, and General Grievous?

Ulic Qel-Droma above Yoda, Darth Sidious, and Anakin Skywalker?

AotC Obi-Wan Kenobi above AotC Anakin Skywalker?

Obi-Wan Kenobi above Count Dooku?

Tulak Hord above all, save for one?

I can continue if you wish.

The fact of the matter is, none of those can be supported by viable evidence. If they can, prove up.

Edit:

And I've already dismantled the arguments regarding Kun being more skilled than Anakin, and the same with Kol Skywalker.

Where does it say that Anakin was a bigger threat that Obi-Wan?

DS, Why do rank Tulak Hord,Kyle,Kas'im, and Darth Bane higher than ROTS Anakin and ROTS Mace?, Im just wondering i don't know much about Hord other than Traya thought he was good. And Depa is better than Obsession Asajj??