DC's vs Marvel's Heavyweights

Originally posted by Newjak
That is Superboy prime level of power and plus a huge Magic advantage and the fact that we have never seen Hal create that many rings before 😛

Lobo is nigh-immune to magic btw. a few thousand of them weileding full loads of rings would be too much. Also noting his powers WITHOUT the rings.

Mindlinking and combining will makes the rings effect even greater. The JLA HAS done this before.

Originally posted by Juntai
Really? Kyle created a corp with Hals ring. It has shown no limits to being able to create more rings.

Lobo is nigh-immune to magic btw. a few thousand of them weileding full loads of rings would be too much. Also noting his powers WITHOUT the rings.

Mindlinking and combining will makes the rings effect even greater. The JLA HAS done this before.

Which Thor and SS are more than capable of doing.

And all that means is at best he can create 7200 GL rings from what we've seen that isn't enough 😛

Originally posted by Newjak
I'm not saying they won't be effective but they are not overpowering Thor+Juggernaut+Silversurfer+Chamion+Hulk combined

Which Thor and SS are more than capable of doing.

And all that means is at best he can create 7200 GL rings from what we've seen that isn't enough 😛

One person uses magnetism to rip the hammer away [Like Magneto and others have done to Thor, and not let it return.]
Others drain the various energy signatures. Which they are fully capable of doing.

He eventually goes down.

In either case, even in your belief, and you try to disregard all this yet again... the best that could be accomplished is the team getting wiped minus one character, and that character is not enough to stop what I just depicted. Not even remotely close.

Originally posted by Juntai
I disagree.

One person uses magnetism to rip the hammer away [Like Magneto and others have done to Thor, and not let it return.]
Others drain the various energy signatures. Which they are fully capable of doing.

He eventually goes down.

In either case, even in your belief, and you try to disregard all this yet again... the best that could be accomplished is the team getting wiped minus one character, and that character is not enough to stop what I just depicted. Not even remotely close.

Plus like you said Kyle recreated the GL corps how long did it take him. Ho many rings has Hal made at one time 😛

And by the Way Thor's Hammer plus SS absorption backed by Champions' Power Primordial abilities mean not so much

Originally posted by Newjak
You see that only works iff SS power wasn't enough to stop that 😛

Plus like you said Kyle recreated the GL corps how long did it take him. Ho many rings has Hal made at one time 😛

And by the Way Thor's Hammer plus SS absorption backed by Champions' Power Primordial abilities mean not so much

Originally posted by Juntai

In either case, even in your belief, and you try to disregard all this yet again... the best that could be accomplished is the team getting wiped minus one character, and that character is not enough to stop what I just depicted. Not even remotely close.

Originally posted by Juntai

The fact remains Super Juggernaut is greater than anyone one of your guys plus he is invulnerable to any of your attacks and backed by the power Primordial amplifying Silver Surfer's power he is quite abit stronger than them as well

Originally posted by Newjak
Nice job with the quote 😛

The fact remains Super Juggernaut is greater than anyone one of your guys plus he is invulnerable to any of your attacks and backed by the power Primordial amplifying Silver Surfer's power he is quite abit stronger than them as well

But I already described all this, and you already disregarded it saying how he would use the other powers to counter it. Powers that would be drained/draining away from him as the combat continues.

I won't continue arguing this fanboy crap anymore. You're obviously not going to conceed how vastly overmatched you team, and even your amalgam creation is.

Originally posted by Juntai
I disagree, if the power cosmic can be given as energy to him, it can be taken as well or at least countered when he tries to use it, simultaneously as the Gamma, and the power primordial, and the hammer being ripped from his hands. By hundreds or thousands of guys that he won't be able to permantly put down.

But I already described all this, and you already disregarded it saying how he would use the other powers to counter it. Powers that would be drained/draining away from him as the combat continues.

I won't continue arguing this fanboy crap anymore. You're obviously not going to conceed how vastly overmatched the team, and even your amalgam creation is.

The fact is that none of those guys will be in his league. All his powers will be acting to make him stronger I would dare say he would be able to drain more of DC's guys then the other way around. Think about SS power's are already match if not a little greater than a GL's ring. You add Thor's powers to that both of those amplified by the Power Primordial from Champion and the guy is league above yours and will probably drain their rings to make himself stronger not the other way around.

And a fanboy am I. Os that is what you have resorted to namecalling 😛

Originally posted by Newjak

And a fanboy am I. Os that is what you have resorted to namecalling 😛

Originally posted by Juntai
I didn't call you anything.

Originally posted by Juntai

I won't continue arguing this fanboy crap anymore. You're obviously not going to conceed how vastly overmatched you team, and even your amalgam creation is.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah 🙄

Seems to me that you implied I was being a fanboy 😛

I could care less, you can take it however you want.

But since we're on it.

Where do we draw the line?

How about disregarding evidence or ideas with valid credence: Such as them being out to manuever, out think, and drain your amalgan, due to vastly more characters, from more directions, moving at a faster rate, and thinking and acting in perfect unison[also at a much higher rate], only to reply that Cain could somehow outmulti-task a team of thousands working such a manner..

Making up powers: Giving away the power Primodial, something Champion has never been shown capable of. Similarly, putting "Hulk" power into this character.

Attempt to use powers a character doesn't even have: Thor manipulating time.

etc, etc.

It's seriously a joke.

Originally posted by Juntai
I didn't call you anything. Notice how none of my sentences, anywhere in the thread, started with "You're" and ended with "a fanboy".

I could care less, you can take it however you want.

But since we're on it.

Where do we draw the line?

How about disregarding evidence or ideas with valid credence: Such as them being out to manuever, out think, and drain your amalgan, due to vastly more characters, from more directions, moving at a faster rate, and thinking and acting in perfect unison[also at a much higher rate], only to reply that Cain could somehow outmulti-task a team of thousands working such a manner..

Making up powers: Giving away the power Primodial, something Champion has never been shown capable of. Similarly, putting "Hulk" power into this character.

Attempt to use powers a character doesn't even have: Thor manipulating time.

etc, etc.

It's seriously a joke.

Thats all I can say.

As for the Power Primordial and Hulk's Gama radiation Silver Surfer cna absorb them and transfer them. He has already done similar thing throughout his entire history from actually doing to Hulk to the Big Crunch. So no I haven't made up any powers 🙂

And while we are on it all your guys are only as strong as a GL in the absorption department. Thor plus Silver Surfer backed by the Power Primordial seriously is second to none if energy absorption and > then a GL. The fact is this being could easily drain a GL ring making himself stronger each time

It not a hard concept to get

So if anything is a joke I would have to say it is what your saying 😬

blowup

Originally posted by Juntai
blowup

Unless your gonna try and tell me now that GL rings can not be drained which be both know is false 😛

Originally posted by Newjak
What I understand that there gonna be a like a million GLs and they are all gonna freaking absorb the guy who is much better than any of them in power absorption even without Power Primordial with it he would be more than able to drain the GL rings themselves.

Unless your gonna try and tell me now that GL rings can not be drained which be both know is false 😛

You did forget that the rings especially hal, is good at absorbing actual beings into his ring thus, making them all subject to his will in the universe inside the ring the he is lord over. Marvel loses big time as flash steels all of thier speed and Hal absorbs them into the ring.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You did forget that the rings especially hal, is good at absorbing actual beings into his ring thus, making them all subject to his will in the universe inside the ring the he is lord over. Marvel loses big time as flash steels all of thier speed and Hal absorbs them into the ring.

And Super Juggs just absorbs all the power from Hal's ring 😛

Originally posted by Newjak
Magic protection from Flash for the win 😛

And Super Juggs just absorbs all the power from Hal's ring 😛

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
😕 😕 😕 😘

Originally posted by Newjak
Nice job with the quote 😛

The fact remains Super Juggernaut is greater than anyone one of your guys plus he is invulnerable to any of your attacks and backed by the power Primordial amplifying Silver Surfer's power he is quite abit stronger than them as well

Originally posted by Newjak
Magic protection from Flash for the win 😛

And Super Juggs just absorbs all the power from Hal's ring 😛

Originally posted by Estacado
Time manipulation. 😐
Also the logic sucks since if Cain get's the Hammer Thor get's mauled by Superman in no time and Surfer also becomes much more vulnerable.Also Flash could easily steal Juggernaut's speed the other like Hulk and Champion are no factor.

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As for Jugg's speed remember he has a certain magic enchantment 😖hifty:

And even if MM could pahse therough the shield then what he still gets absrobed into the hammer. 😐