DC's vs Marvel's Heavyweights

Started by Juntai11 pages

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Since when can Champ share is power anyway?
He's been making up shit and disregarding evidence the whole thread. First I point it out, then point out how it doesn't matter anyways. He disregards it, and moves along.

Re: Re: DC's vs Marvel's Heavyweights

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Really. This fight was DC's from the beginning.
Yep.

1 DC.
2 DC.
3 DC.
4 Marvel.

Originally posted by Juntai
No, the power cosmic and the power primoridial and the hammer will all be ripped from him by thousands working in unison, and their mindlinking the willpower of several into one increasing the power, assures the idea that his energy absorption won't overmatch theirs. They are far more versatile, and can do more at once.

YOu're acting like they're working all in a line.

They are doing this all at once.
In Flash-like speed of body and thought.
With the versatility of Green Lantern, multiplied by wills working in unison, as they can STACK in power and effectiveness.

How are they going to rip them from him exactly. Magnetism that only works as long as cain isn't holding the hammer.

Taking his power only works if he isn't stopping them. Seriously the guy is about 50 times stronger than the strongest guy you could make. that makes a huge difference just look how easily Superboy Prime tore through the GL Corps 😬

And let us not forget Silver Surfer isn't a slow poke either 😐

Originally posted by Juntai
He's been making up shit and disregarding evidence the whole thread. First I point it out, then point out how it doesn't matter anyways. He disregards it, and moves along.
Since when did I ever say that Champ was giving him his power I said Silver Surfer could take it and give it throug habsorbtion which has more than enough proof to back it up 😉

Originally posted by Newjak
How are they going to rip them from him exactly. Magnetism that only works as long as cain isn't holding the hammer.

Taking his power only works if he isn't stopping them. Seriously the guy is about 50 times stronger than the strongest guy you could make. that makes a huge difference just look how easily Superboy Prime tore through the GL Corps 😬

And let us not forget Silver Surfer isn't a slow poke either 😐

MM merges them all into one. They grab all Diana's stuff. They will themselves invulnerable. They one shot your Juggy.

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Originally posted by Newjak
Since when did I ever say that Champ was giving him his power I said Silver Surfer could take it and give it throug habsorbtion which has more than enough proof to back it up 😉
Really? Got scans of him taking it from Champion previously? Or anyone taking it from Champion?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
MM merges them all into one. They grab all Diana's stuff. They will themselves invulnerable. They one shot your Juggy.

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And one shot no because Cain is still way more durable then them all.

By the way I'm getting a little bored with this it has been fun but here are a few question for you guys.

First hasn't Lobo lost his cloning Power?

How many GL rings has Hal made at one time?

When has Flash ever completely amped everyone one up with speed to his level?

Originally posted by Juntai
Really? Got scans of him taking it from Champion previously? Or anyone taking it from Champion?
Nope but Big Crunch>Champion 😉

Originally posted by Newjak
How are they going to rip them from him exactly. Magnetism that only works as long as cain isn't holding the hammer.

Taking his power only works if he isn't stopping them. Seriously the guy is about 50 times stronger than the strongest guy you could make. that makes a huge difference just look how easily Superboy Prime tore through the GL Corps 😬

And let us not forget Silver Surfer isn't a slow poke either 😐

Then he'll end up minus all the added energies, eventually just as Juggernaut with a hammer. And then that too would be stripped eventually. Too many different characters, from too many directions, thinking and acting at higher level of thought and speed. If Surfer can give the power cosmic as an energy, and same with the Primordial and Gamma. Several of them combining their wills in unison would overpower his absorption rate, and take the Gamma, another set would do the same with the Primordial, another group of them with the cosmic, with others still left to attack and distract.
I can't believe you actually believe you actually believe he could multitask to keep up with this team.

That GL corp doesn't compare this one.

Originally posted by Newjak
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And one shot no because Cain is still way more durable then them all.

By the way I'm getting a little bored with this it has been fun but here are a few question for you guys.

First hasn't Lobo lost his cloning Power?

How many GL rings has Hal made at one time?

When has Flash ever completely amped everyone one up with speed to his level?

Nope but Big Crunch>Champion 😉

YOu are an insufferable tard. The Big Crunch was a plot device. I could go on and on about things that GL's have done that far exceedt he big Cruch. A GL Shielded the Big Bang. Or how about when Diana's Lasso held Hectate, who had Ultimate power? Or what about when Superman saved the Omniverse with his strength alone. Talk about cain being 50 times stronger than anyone. HAHAHA. You are the bore.

Originally posted by Newjak

Nope but Big Crunch>Champion 😉
So you got nothing then, and you're admittedly making shit up?

Originally posted by Newjak
And one shot no because Cain is still way more durable then them all.

Combined strength of Superman, Lobo, MM, Diana, an IMP and will power amped strength.

He's either dead or on the other side of the galaxy 😐

Originally posted by Newjak
First hasn't Lobo lost his cloning Power?

But not his HF.

Originally posted by Newjak
When has Flash ever completely amped everyone one up with speed to his level?

Early in JLA he gave Superman enough speed to get beyond a planet's orbit, find a specific woman, beat up the guards, save her and get off the ship before the ZetaBeam hit them. Superman also started after the shot was fired IIRC.

At this time Superman was slower than light.

Originally posted by Newjak

First hasn't Lobo lost his cloning Power?

How many GL rings has Hal made at one time?

When has Flash ever completely amped everyone one up with speed to his level?


Lobo has not lost it. He used it in Our Worlds at War, several years after the Vril Dox episode when he supposedly lost it. However it was never even PROVEN he lost it to begin with, only assumed.

Has shown no limit, therefore won't be placed on it. Hal's ring was goign to be enough remake the entire corp. That's all I need.

Flash has shared his speed before.

Originally posted by Juntai
So you got nothing then, and you're admittedly making shit up?
Thor's Hammer has absrobed something that could destroy a Galaxy Surfer has absorbed stuff from Mephisto so yeah I'm really making things up 😛

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Combined strength of Superman, Lobo, MM, Diana, an IMP and will power amped strength.

He's either dead or on the other side of the galaxy 😐

But not his HF.

Early in JLA he gave Superman enough speed to get beyond a planet's orbit, find a specific woman, beat up the guards, save her and get off the ship before the ZetaBeam hit them. Superman also started after the shot was fired IIRC.

At this time Superman was slower than light.

Hulk + Thor+ Hulk+Champions equals greater strength than DC teams

Thor's Hammer plus Power comsic greater than GL ring

Silver Surfer speed added to Power Primodrial equals faster than your guy 😛

Plus my guy has the straight durability advantage without question.

By the way I never said Flash could give speed but I asked where he has ever made someone as fast as himself or where is has given multiple people speed advantages 😛

Originally posted by Newjak
Thor's Hammer has absrobed something that could destroy a Galaxy Surfer has absorbed stuff from Mephisto so yeah I'm really making things up 😛
You're making up that the Power Primordial can be taken from one character and applied to another, without proof of such an event even being possible, regardless of Surfer or Thors power.

Hulk + Thor+ Hulk+Champions equals greater strength than DC teams

Thor's Hammer plus Power comsic greater than GL ring

Silver Surfer speed added to Power Primodrial equals faster than your guy 😛

Plus my guy has the straight durability advantage without question.

By the way I never said Flash could give speed but I asked where he has ever made someone as fast as himself or where is has given multiple people speed advantages 😛

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Originally posted by Juntai
You're making up that the Power Primordial can be taken from one character and applied to another, without proof of such an event even being possible, regardless of Surfer or Thors power.

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How Champion continues to feed Silver Surfer all of his power than Silver Surfer passes it unto Cain not a big stretch.

And you can laugh all you want the fact is that your way overplaying everything 😛

Originally posted by Newjak
Thor's Hammer has absrobed something that could destroy a Galaxy Surfer has absorbed stuff from Mephisto so yeah I'm really making things up 😛

Hulk + Thor+ Hulk+Champions equals greater strength than DC teams

Thor's Hammer plus Power comsic greater than GL ring

Silver Surfer speed added to Power Primodrial equals faster than your guy 😛

Plus my guy has the straight durability advantage without question.

By the way I never said Flash could give speed but I asked where he has ever made someone as fast as himself or where is has given multiple people speed advantages 😛

You are an idiot. Surfer absorbed blast sure. But when has he absorbed power from one being and given it to another? When has Thor's hammer absorbed something? I thought he deflected that galaxy blast. Thor's hammer sure as hell hasn't taken power from one being and given it to another. TARDO. And when did you think that that lil equation of yours was accurate? Superman is stronger than Hulk and Thor on his own. HELL Wonder Woman has strength feats that surpass Thor's. As does MM. And LOBO has beaten Supers enough times to know that he is Superman's equal or Superior. Get that bs out of here. And There is no durability advantage here. WW's Shield is far and away superior to juggs invulnerablity. And Juggs is highly weak to a combined psy blast from MM and WW's Lasso willing him into a coma.

Originally posted by Newjak
Hulk + Thor+ Hulk+Champions equals greater strength than DC teams

Execpt that Hulk is his biggest strength power there and he'll only have a chance to enjoy the base level.

Originally posted by Newjak
Thor's Hammer plus Power comsic greater than GL ring

How about 5 GL rings + magic + TP + TK + T-Vo 😐

Originally posted by Newjak
Silver Surfer speed added to Power Primodrial equals faster than your guy 😛

Because we all know Champ's PP makes him so fast. 🙄

Originally posted by Newjak
Plus my guy has the straight durability advantage without question.

Shapeshifting, HF, another HF, magic bracelets, SpeedForceAura, Kryptonian BioAura, GL shield 😐

Originally posted by Newjak
By the way I never said Flash could give speed but I asked where he has ever made someone as fast as himself or where is has given multiple people speed advantages 😛

He moved, fought and searched at FTL speeds. So yeah gave you that.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You are an idiot. Surfer absorbed blast sure. But when has he absorbed power from one being and given it to another? When has Thor's hammer absorbed something? I thought he deflected that galaxy blast. Thor's hammer sure as hell hasn't taken power from one being and given it to another. TARDO. And when did you think that that lil equation of yours was accurate? Superman is stronger than Hulk and Thor on his own. HELL Wonder Woman has strength feats that surpass Thor's. As does MM. And LOBO has beaten Supers enough times to know that he is Superman's equal or Superior. Get that bs out of here. And There is no durability advantage here. WW's Shield is far and away superior to juggs invulnerablity. And Juggs is highly weak to a combined psy blast from MM and WW's Lasso willing him into a coma.
Insults again man you people sure can not do anything better 😛

And Cain+Thor=Superman+Wonderwoman

Plus you have to add the fact that Hulk's strength is unlimited

You think that Thor's hammer can not absorb energy 😆

And Cain normally is weak to TP yes but with Thor and Surfer's power not so much anymore 😉

One more thing. Since when does flash even need to give anyone on his team speed? They all can move at light speed or faster on thier own anyway. Except Lobo. But Lobo as FTL reflexes and his bike.

Originally posted by Newjak
How Champion continues to feed Silver Surfer all of his power than Silver Surfer passes it unto Cain not a big stretch.

And you can laugh all you want the fact is that your way overplaying everything 😛


Clearly, I'm the one overplaying, when you think one character is going to out-multi-task so many, who have every ability neccisary among them, and the sheer numbers, to put down one single guy. ALthough he might be more powerful than any of them indivually, they can drain multiples of his sources at once, while rocking him with attacks to keep his attention, noting Cain is a hothead anyways and would EASILY lose focus.

Show me Champion using the power primordial in such a way, then. All I ever do is see the guy bullrush people and get his ass beat.