Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlLobo does have superspeed too, just not at the level of everyone else.
One more thing. Since when does flash even need to give anyone on his team speed? They all can move at light speed or faster on thier own anyway. Except Lobo. But Lobo as FTL reflexes and his bike.
Extending the speedforce aura makes them all have uncomparable speed, that couldn't be taken from them..
Originally posted by Newjak
Insults again man you people sure can not do anything better 😛And Cain+Thor=Superman+Wonderwoman
Plus you have to add the fact that Hulk's strength is unlimited
You think that Thor's hammer can not absorb energy 😆
And Cain normally is weak to TP yes but with Thor and Surfer's power not so much anymore 😉
Cain has NEVER been anywhere near as strong as Superman or WonderWoman. And Thor has No strength feat in his arsenal to compare to the things WW and Supers and MM have done. Hulk's strength is limited by his rage and time. He won't have enough time or rage to fight Super Fast planet moving punches. Or Green Lantern leeching his gamma radiation and turning him into banner. Cain is going to be told to sit down by WW's magic lasso and there is no one in creation except lobo, who can resist it. You my sir are outdone.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosWRONG Cain+Thor is far greater than Hulk's base and he would more than have a chance to use it.
Execpt that Hulk is his biggest strength power there and he'll only have a chance to enjoy the base level.How about 5 GL rings + magic + TP + TK + T-Vo 😐
Because we all know Champ's PP makes him so fast. 🙄
Shapeshifting, HF, another HF, magic bracelets, SpeedForceAura, Kryptonian BioAura, GL shield 😐
He moved, fought and searched at FTL speeds. So yeah gave you that.
Let's see PP+Hammer+TP+TK+Crimson Gem+PC 😐
And the PP allows to amp other abilties especially Champ's power. So yes it will make him faster
Phasing+Thor Shield's+Thor's Hammer+Cain's shield+Cain' Durability+ Hulk's Durability+Champ's Durability+Hulk's HF+Cain's HF+Silver Surfer Durability+ Surfer Shield's I think I've shown my point 😐
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlMidgard Serpent and Cain has been stated to be just as strong as Thor and Hulk's rage can come quickly
Cain has NEVER been anywhere near as strong as Superman or WonderWoman. And Thor has No strength feat in his arsenal to compare to the things WW and Supers and MM have done. Hulk's strength is limited by his rage and time. He won't have enough time or rage to fight Super Fast planet moving punches. Or Green Lantern leeching his gamma radiation and turning him into banner. Cain is going to be told to sit down by WW's magic lasso and there is no one in creation except lobo, who can resist it. You my sir are outdone.
And I think you are forgetting something that they could leech al lthat power except that Thor's Hammer Plus PC is better than a GL ring 😉
Originally posted by NewjakNo, you haven't shown much but idiocy, sorry.
WRONG Cain+Thor is far greater than Hulk's base and he would more than have a chance to use it.Let's see PP+Hammer+TP+TK+Crimson Gem+PC 😐
And the PP allows to amp other abilties especially Champ's power. So yes it will make him faster
Phasing+Thor Shield's+Thor's Hammer+Cain's shield+Cain' Durability+ Hulk's Durability+Champ's Durability+Hulk's HF+Cain's HF+Silver Surfer Durability+ Surfer Shield's I think I've shown my point 😐
Originally posted by Newjak
WRONG Cain+Thor is far greater than Hulk's base and he would more than have a chance to use it.Let's see PP+Hammer+TP+TK+Crimson Gem+PC 😐
And the PP allows to amp other abilties especially Champ's power. So yes it will make him faster
Phasing+Thor Shield's+Thor's Hammer+Cain's shield+Cain' Durability+ Hulk's Durability+Champ's Durability+Hulk's HF+Cain's HF+Silver Surfer Durability+ Surfer Shield's I think I've shown my point 😐
You have shown that you don't know how to debate. You have created a bunch of senarios to basically make up a new character of your own over active imagination. Of course anyone of us could say that the JLA with prep just brings in Amazo 27 for the win.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosThey only need two that aren't that is Silver Surfer and Thor everyone else can be brain dead it doesn't matter power meshing for the win with scenario b)
You're nuts 😛And sure they have a shot at winning if they use your plan but frankly so many of the people on that team are idiots that it won't be much help.
Originally posted by NewjakI never said that. Don't put words in my mouth son.
How exactly I'm not the one trying to sayGreen Lantern Ring> Power Cosmic + Thor's Hammer 😉
I said, Lobo replicating during prep time, and GL replicating rings for all of them, can outmultask him and drain away his power, while others rock him with attacks and make him lose his head. No concentration, no Hammer or Cosmic power in use for Cain. He gets the PC and Power Primordial[Even though you've gone nowhere into proving the PP option is even viable.], and eventually the Hammer, and Cain falls. They can coordinate and multitask FAR better.
Originally posted by JuntaiAt least you have the beginign to get it.
I never said that.I said, Lobo replicating during prep time, and GL replicating rings for all of them, can outmultask him and drain away his power, while others rock him with attacks and make him lose his head. No concentration, no Hammer or Cosmic power in use for Cain. He gets the PC and Power Primordial[Even though you've gone nowhere into proving the PP option is even viable.], and eventually the Hammer, and Cain falls. They can coordinate and multitask FAR better.
Now follow with me PP amps PC so that he is > than the GL Rings.
It doesn't matter how many you have the fact remains that never before has it been shown so many rings working together actually accomplishes more than one. Just look at Doomsday and Superboy Prime the numbers didn't help because the power level was just so great.
The same thing applies here Magic Absorbtion + PC absorption amped by PP is going to absorb GL rings easier than Gl Rings will absorb the other.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Oh.Well, I don't see the point in insulting Newjack, but I will point out that I think he forgets that the dead weight isn't just dead weight because of their powers. Half of the Marvel crew is also a bunch of idiots.
I'm not insulting him. I'm just prodding him to see if I can make him snap.
Although I do think he's wrong.
Originally posted by NewjakNow follow me.. you can't prove that stacks like that. You haven't even proved its possible for the Power Primordial to even leave Champion's form.
At least you have the beginign to get it.Now follow with me PP amps PC so that he is > than the GL Rings.
It doesn't matter how many you have the fact remains that never before has it been shown so many rings working together actually accomplishes more than one.Actually they do, and it has been proven. Take for example when Sinestro and Hal were about to fight in Emerald Twilight, and Sinestro mentions how his own ring couldn't compete with Hal's dozens. Or again in Green Lantern Corp mini that opened up the current new series. Or any other number of times they've done it.
Just look at Doomsday and Superboy Prime the numbers didn't help because the power level was just so great.Doesn't change what they are capable of. What I'm describing is perfectly within their parameters. I can't help it if you can't come up with anything logical to debate against it.
The same thing applies here Magic Absorbtion + PC absorption amped by PP is going to absorb GL rings easier than Gl Rings will absorb the other.No, Cain will be unfocused, he is one against many, who are coordinating together on a mental level. Each attacking different aspects of his power to take them, and others attack directly to distract him.