DC's vs Marvel's Heavyweights

Started by nvrbeenwthagirl11 pages

It's all simple. Martian Manhunter and GL Merge Superman, WW, and LOBO into one being. Then the Merged being puts on the guantlets of atlas AND the shields of aegis. Thus making it 80 times stronger than Superman. 4 Times thier strength Multiplied by 20. They now are amped in speed by flash, and have an indestructible aegis Shield plus Manhunter's shapechanging healing ability. And Superman's bio aura and lobo's healing and cloning. Hal Makes the Merged being a ring and they open a can of whoop as on Supercain. You see how it easy it is to contrive a rediculous theory. And this one is more feasible becuz it's been shown that Manhunter can merge with beings and the ring can alter DNA.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm not insulting him. I'm just prodding him to see if I can make him snap.

Although I do think he's wrong.

I am unbreakable 😎

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's all simple. Martian Manhunter and GL Merge Superman, WW, and LOBO into one being. Then the Merged being puts on the guantlets of atlas AND the shields of aegis. Thus making it 80 times stronger than Superman. 4 Times thier strength Multiplied by 20. They now are amped in speed by flash, and have an indestructible aegis Shield plus Manhunter's shapechanging healing ability. And Superman's bio aura and lobo's healing and cloning. Hal Makes the Merged being a ring and they open a can of whoop as on Supercain. You see how it easy it is to contrive a rediculous theory. And this one is more feasible becuz it's been shown that Manhunter can merge with beings and the ring can alter DNA.
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Originally posted by Juntai
Now follow me.. you can't prove that stacks like that. You haven't even proved its possible for the Power Primordial to even leave Champion's form.

Actually they do, and it has been proven. Take for example when Sinestro and Hal were about to fight in Emerald Twilight, and Sinestro mentions how his own ring couldn't compete with Hal's dozens. Or again in Green Lantern Corp mini that opened up the current new series. Or any other number of times they've done it.

Doesn't change what they are capable of. What I'm describing is perfectly within their parameters. I can't help it if you can't come up with anything logical to debate against it.

No, Cain will be unfocused, he is one against many, who are coordinating together on a mental level. Each attacking different aspects of his power to take them, and others attack directly to distract him.

Why not Champ continuously gives Surfer his power and SS tranfers it. Both of which SS has shown before the ability to absorb and transfer.

Yes but did it really make Hal that much stronger than Sinestro no it didn't 😛

And what I'm saying perfectly capable as well. SuperJuggernaut is a better energy manipulator then the GL rings and he would more than likely drain them then the other way around since it has been shown GL rings can be messed with 😛

Originally posted by Newjak Why not Champ continuously gives Surfer his power and SS tranfers it. Both of which SS has shown before the ability to absorb and transfer.
Cool, now when did Champion show the capacity to do this.

Yes but did it really make Hal that much stronger than Sinestro no it didn't 😛
Yes it did, and he knew it, that's why he took them off and fought with only ring, instead of many.. And there's also all the times GL's have used their rings to perform the same task as proof, such as in the GL mini, and several other times. More rings, more power. Period.

And what I'm saying perfectly capable as well. SuperJuggernaut is a better energy manipulator then the GL rings and he would more than likely drain them then the other way around since it has been shown GL rings can be messed with 😛
If those energies can be given to Cain, they can be taken away in the same manner. The truth is, he can't outmultitask them. While he's taking a frontal assault. Other groups working together are draining him of his various energies. I don't think he can multitask like that against characters moving and thinking in unison at faster than light speeds. You thinking he's going to counter tons of characters energy draining differen't specific aspects of him, WHILE fighting off a frontal assault, WHILE draining GL's, all of whom are moving and thinking in such a manner is rediculous.

Originally posted by Newjak
Why not Champ continuously gives Surfer his power and SS tranfers it. Both of which SS has shown before the ability to absorb and transfer.

Yes but did it really make Hal that much stronger than Sinestro no it didn't 😛

And what I'm saying perfectly capable as well. SuperJuggernaut is a better energy manipulator then the GL rings and he would more than likely drain them then the other way around since it has been shown GL rings can be messed with 😛

Surfer has been drained before. And the Hammer can easily be taken from cain. Since the power of Thor isn't actually part of cain. And no amount of power cain recieves is going to make him be able to stand up to the Lasso.

Originally posted by Newjak
Since when have Flash and Wonder Woman been geniuses 😬

Flash and WW are much better at prep than you're giving credit for.

Originally posted by Newjak
The fact is Thor and Silver Surfer both had or have Time Manip abilities as well and SS can share is power cosmic with other people. Thor and SS prep> The other team combined. There is no doubt about it. And yes Cain is more of a resource then you think.

Thor and SS are NOT pulling this off. Add in a GL ring, and it's pretty much a wrap.

Originally posted by Newjak
If you want to know the truth SS gives him 65% of his Power Cosmic. Thor gives him his hammer and Champion gives him some of the power Primordial. Cain has literally just become> Then DC combined

This is so ridiculous that it's laughable... power pooling is nothing new...but the chances of what you are suggesting even having a hell of a chance of happening or even WORKING are slim to none.

Originally posted by Juntai
If those energies can be given to Cain, they can be taken away in the same manner. The truth is, he can't outmultitask them. While he's taking a frontal assault. Other groups working together are draining him of his various energies. I don't think he can multitask like that against characters moving and thinking in unison at faster than light speeds. You thinking he's going to counter tons of characters energy draining differen't specific aspects of him, WHILE fighting off a frontal assault, WHILE draining GL's, all of whom are moving and thinking in such a manner is rediculous.
Yes he can and they may be numerous but what is preventing the first how many ever from being drained by SuperJuggernaut who now is a far better energy manipulator then any of the GL DC has produced 😬

And he is faster than Light now as well with Surfer's knowlede and abilities backed by the PP.

And yes Champ can control his PP he has turned it completely off once for his fight with She-Hulk 😛

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
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Flash and WW are much better at prep than you're giving credit for.

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Thor and SS are NOT pulling this off. Add in a GL ring, and it's pretty much a wrap.

This is so ridiculous that it's laughable... power pooling is nothing new...but the chances of what you are suggesting even having a hell of a chance of happening or even WORKING are slim to none.

First you messed up with your links 😛

Secondly I never said that they are not smart or they he can not help with prep but they are not Geniuses on the level of Batman or Even Superman or Hal 😬

Actually it is quite capable of happening and your a few pages off 😛

Originally posted by Newjak
Yes he can and they may be numerous but what is preventing the first how many ever from being drained by SuperJuggernaut who now is a far better energy manipulator then any of the GL DC has produced 😬

And he is faster than Light now as well with Surfer's knowlede and abilities backed by the PP.

And yes Champ can control his PP he has turned it completely off once for his fight with She-Hulk 😛

For the fight with She Hulk, he took off the power gem. Show me Champion doing an energy dump at a target and I might take it seriously.

And he might be a better manipulator, but not while being attacked from different angles to specific aspects, his mind won't be able to multitask as such, and certainly not higher than literally hundreds of them.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yes he can and they may be numerous but what is preventing the first how many ever from being drained by SuperJuggernaut who now is a far better energy manipulator then any of the GL DC has produced 😬

And he is faster than Light now as well with Surfer's knowlede and abilities backed by the PP.

And yes Champ can control his PP he has turned it completely off once for his fight with She-Hulk 😛

The sheer madness. The PP has NEVER been shown to be transferable. Juggs is an idiot and he certainly isn't going to know how to use Thor's hammer or the Power Cosmic. Surfer and Thor are both thousands of years old. It has taken them time to learn the full use of thier abilities. Cain also isn't used to moving at super speeds. And you haven't answered how he is going to beat the combined telepathic power of MM, Wonder Woman's Superior magical lasso, and Superman's Multiversal bad guy beating T-VO. P.S. the GL rings can also produce Telepathic powers as well. As hal turns himself into a daxamite/Titan Cross bread.

Originally posted by Juntai
For the fight with She Hulk, he took off the power gem. Show me Champion doing an energy dump at a target and I might take it seriously.

And he might be a better manipulator, but not while being attacked from different angles to specific aspects, his mind won't be able to multitask as such, and certainly not higher than literally hundreds of them.

Silver Surfer has taken Power Cosmic from other heralds 😛

Like you said he is better and he would be able to drain the multiple GLs attacking him draining there energy making him stronger 😛

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The sheer madness. The PP has NEVER been shown to be transferable. Juggs is an idiot and he certainly isn't going to know how to use Thor's hammer or the Power Cosmic. Surfer and Thor are both thousands of years old. It has taken them time to learn the full use of thier abilities. Cain also isn't used to moving at super speeds. And you haven't answered how he is going to beat the combined telepathic power of MM, Wonder Woman's Superior magical lasso, and Superman's Multiversal bad guy beating T-VO. P.S. the GL rings can also produce Telepathic powers as well. As hal turns himself into a daxamite/Titan Cross bread.
Silver Surfer TP links them all so Cain picks up everyone's expreince as well as their abilities. So he gets Thor's knowledge on the hammer, SS's on the Power Cosmic, and Champ's fighting knowledge 😛

I'm done, I'm putting him on ignore with the other idiots like X Meat and Carver and Judge. I can't take his bullshit anymore.

We've broke this down a hundred different ways, and he comes back with literally NOTHING, and just says he thinks his guy can win, with no logical counter to anything presented.

Originally posted by Newjak
Silver Surfer has taken Power Cosmic from other heralds 😛

Like you said he is better and he would be able to drain the multiple GLs attacking him draining there energy making him stronger 😛

One power ring is better than the Hammer. One Power ring is equal to the PC. So how is ONe Hammer, and One PC user going to be superior to Hundred of Rings?

Originally posted by Newjak
First you messed up with your links 😛

Secondly I never said that they are not smart or they he can not help with prep but they are not Geniuses on the level of Batman or Even Superman or Hal 😬

Actually it is quite capable of happening and your a few pages off 😛

Blame it on photobucket. 🙂 They work just fine now.

Secondly...they don't need Batman/Doom style intelligence to outprep the group of dullards you're arguing for. 🙂

You still think Thor can manipulate time.... already your theory was flawed. 😉

Originally posted by Juntai
I'm done, I'm putting him on ignore with the other idiots like X Meat and Carver and Judge. I can't take his bullshit anymore.

We've broke this down a hundred different ways, and he comes back with literally NOTHING, and just says he thinks his guy can win, with no logical counter to anything presented.

How have you broken this down a hundred different ways all I've seen is about 24 😛

And I'm sorry your putting me on ignore list here take a flower with you durflowers

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
One power ring is better than the Hammer. One Power ring is equal to the PC. So how is ONe Hammer, and One PC user going to be superior to Hundred of Rings?
PC backed by PP and the magical nature of the Hammer makes this extremely effective against the rings 😛

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Blame it on photobucket. 🙂 They work just fine now.

Secondly...they don't need Batman/Doom style intelligence to outprep the group of dullards you're arguing for. 🙂

You still think Thor can manipulate time.... already your theory was flawed. 😉

Silver Surfer and Thor have more expreince and then all of those guys put togehter 😐

Originally posted by Juntai
I'm done, I'm putting him on ignore with the other idiots like X Meat and Carver and Judge. I can't take his bullshit anymore.

We've broke this down a hundred different ways, and he comes back with literally NOTHING, and just says he thinks his guy can win, with no logical counter to anything presented.

I think Newjak is fooling around and pulling your chain.

I doubt even he believes the crap he's spewing. 😄