10 year rule SPOILERS

Originally posted by Surreal_44
Davy Jones abandoned his post. He was no longer ferrying people to that 'distant shore', so that's why people could step on board the Dutchman.

For Will to not become "fish faced", he must abide by the purpose of the Dutchman, which is to 'crossover' souls. He can't do that if he's in the land of the dead to gather the souls up.

The curse is broken if, at any time, the captain of the Dutchman finds a love who will be true to him. So at the end of ten years, Will will be free of the Dutchman entirely.

Most of this is in the movie, but there's so much to take in from the film that it's understandable if you didn't catch it all. The bit about Will being free of the Dutchman for forever (at least that's my understanding) is from Ted and Terry, the writers of the movie. 😄

I hope this helps a little. 😄

Wrong Surreal..Terry was talking about The Flying Dutchman opera. He wasn't talking about AWE. That is not how it goes.

The curse cannot be broken. Will is bound to his ship for eternity. It doesn't matter if Liz is faithful, unfaithful, or dies his faith will always be the same.
You got the first thing right, DJ became all tentacly because he abandoned his job. Therefore, Will must respect the call or that is the same faith he will face IF he doesn't.

The only way he will be set free off the Dutchman is IF anyone stabs his heart. Will is immortal and theres nothing no one can do about it. And he will keep roaming the sees until judgment day or until the next contender stabs his heart.

Originally posted by Mistypirate
Wrong Surreal..Terry was talking about The Flying Dutchman opera. He wasn't talking about AWE. That is not how it goes.

The curse cannot be broken. Will is bound to his ship for eternity. It doesn't matter if Liz is faithful, unfaithful, or dies his faith will always be the same.
You got the first thing right, DJ became all tentacly because he abandoned his job. Therefore, Will must respect the call or that is the same faith he will face IF he doesn't.

The only way he will be set free off the Dutchman is IF anyone stabs his heart. Will is immortal and theres nothing no one can do about it. And he will keep roaming the sees until judgment day or until the next contender stabs his heart.

The writers clearly stated that if the Dutchmen Captain finds true love that is faithful to him, he will be set free. I can't wait to see this deleted scene in the DVD.

Originally posted by IheartPocky
It would be soo awesome if the had an extended version where they had those little important lines. And scenes..

It really all depends on the amount of money this movie makes total. More than likely there will be a pirates 4.

Really? The quote I am thinking about states that Will is free at the end of his ten years of service. When it Wordplayer comes back on line on Monday I'll look for the quote.

What I recall is that a girl asked Terry if Will was free at the end of the ten years, because that was her conclusion from the film, and he said, that yes, Will was free after ten years.

Then someone else posted, demanding to know who would captain the ship then, and Terry said he didn't know, Calypso might not even know, but it's not that hard to figure out that since Will isn't captain any longer, someone new would take over.

ALSO, Terry said that in no way should we think that Will and Liz would just be content to not see each other for ten years, that there's a good chance they bent the rules or maybe even Liz found a way to go to the Land of the Dead to see and/or get help from Will.

Again, it's not an exact quote because Wordplayer is currently down for the weekend. Just wait, on Monday I'll find it. 😄

That's great for the two of them and their kid, it's just....why wasn't the audience clued into that? The whole of the movie works well and gives us this almost tragic ending. Then we wait so long after the credits for some closure.

Okay, if T&T say Will is freed after 10 years, that's wonderful. Liz doesn't have to be without her husband, Will doesn't have to be without his wife, and Will Jr (because he went without a name) gets both parents. But I have one question: who is the captain of the Dutchman? Based on the information given to us by the film and without doing any detective work at all, I'd guess he appointed his dad to do it.

^^ Unless he saved James and at the end of ten years makes him captain. Shhh, it's my fantasy and until they prove me wrong I'm clinging to it. 😆

But seriously, the biggest problem with this film was the editing. It felt like they cut scenes in order to allow for more action sequences, and although it's an action film, they needed to give people a bit more information. This is not the writers' faults, and I blame Jerry and Gore for not choosing more wisely what scenes to cut and which ones they should have left in.

Yes, editing is to blame.

Originally posted by Surreal_44
^^ Unless he saved James and at the end of ten years makes him captain. Shhh, it's my fantasy and until they prove me wrong I'm clinging to it. 😆

But seriously, the biggest problem with this film was the editing. It felt like they cut scenes in order to allow for more action sequences, and although it's an action film, they needed to give people a bit more information. This is not the writers' faults, and I blame Jerry and Gore for not choosing more wisely what scenes to cut and which ones they should have left in.

I thought Will died after DJ stabbed him? That is why Jack used Will's hand to stab the heart as becoming the captain of the FD is the only way for him to prevent death? If thats the case after the 10 years curse won't he be dead.. again? Or he could be alive.. without a heart.

Originally posted by Shadow0fabandit
The writers clearly stated that if the Dutchmen Captain finds true love that is faithful to him, he will be set free. I can't wait to see this deleted scene in the DVD.

fann2k Will died after he stabbed the heart. Technically he was captain at the time, so when the curse is lifted, he will be alive.

Small details, eh? 😆

Ditte3: It is implied in the film that Will is going to be free in ten years. When people questioned TnT on the board, they were thrilled that people understood what was being said in the film, since the one line that explained how the curse could be broken ended up on the cutting room floor.

The curse is broken. 😄 It's implied, TnT confirm it...so that's how it is.

Of course, in the world of fandom, you are free to choose to ignore that, just like I cheerfully disregard the fact that Will and Jack are not in love with each other. 😄 Ah, blissful fandomness...

I feel the need to clarify this 10 yr old thing. Unfortunately the curse is not broken. Anyways do any of yous remember Pirates Life Fo ? He used to visit this site he worked for the production of Pirates of the Caribbean. And you all know that he is a VERY reliable source. Well He was really nice to clarify over at Tasty Pirates the 10 yr rule..

TP: 1st - is Davy only cursed because he stopped doing the duty he was entrusted w/ OR is it because his love wasn't faithful to him
TP : OR
TP : is it both?
PLFM : It was all explained in the film. The Flying Dutchman is a ship that brings people 'over to the other side' once they die. Davey is cursed with the tenticles because he stopped bringing the souls over because his love wasnt there to meet with him at the 10 year mark
TP : but can he ever be free of the Dutchman?
PLFM : nope. Unless his heart is destroyed
TP : What happens if (while alive) she would not be there (after the 1st 10 years) - I'm assuming she will die (like all of us humans do) at some point - what then?
TP : That's where we're all stuck right now.
PLFM : It doesnt matter is Liz dies or is unfaithful to him. If he continues to ferry souls to the other side then he is fine. He is just immortal. He wont ever change he just can only come on land every 10 years
TP : AHHH. THANK YOU!
TP : But then - who looks after the heart...
TP : If she's faithful I'd assume her descendents. If she's not then?
PLFM : Whoever he wants to, if he is able to get to it. If he comes on land and the next day Liz dies....the heart sits wherever she had it for 10 years. He better hope no one comes across it and ****s with it
TP : LOL
TP : Ohhhhhhhhhhhh BARBOSSA! We have a project for you!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Just kidding - well maybe not....)
TP : Yep, I've officially lost it at this point.
TP : Up to explaining why the green flash accompanies the Dutchman at the end when it didn't in DMC or throughout AWE or do we need to save that one for another day since you need to get ready & well - see above....
PLFM : The flash is there not because of the dutchman. Has nothing to do with the dutchman.
PLFM : The flash signifies a soul being reutned to earth. Will is coming to visit and he is technically 'returning'. Its just symbolism at that point.

I am not making this up, you can ask PLF if you see him around. Will is bound to his ship for eternity and thats how it is. I hope this clarifies things to everyone.

okay you're really going to kill me... :]

he said, "It doesnt matter is Liz dies or is unfaithful to him. If he continues to ferry souls to the other side then he is fine. He is just immortal. He wont ever change he just can only come on land every 10 years"

those are 2 negatives. so if liz DOES stay faithful, does that or does that not mean the curse is broken? lol.

again, i'm going to get slaughtered now, aren't i?

Well, you can look at it as being that faithfulness has nothing to do with it. That if a wonderful, rational, noble guy is the captain of the FD, he would stay the captain and do his job, possibly finding love with someone else.

Or, you can look at it this way. The lover's faithfulness can release the captain. This raises the question of where another captain comes from, but it can make things all better.

Mistypirate, I am going to say this for the last freakin' time, the WRITERS (with more insiders knowledge of the film than even Pirates life fo) have stated that Will is free.

http://www.wordplayer.com/forums/moviesarc08/index.cgi?read=98679

You can choose to say that of course, a person who hires extras knows far better than the writers on how the curse works, but don't you think that's silly?

If you want to know how then a new captain is chosen, the answer is simple, according to Ted:

http://www.wordplayer.com/forums/movies/index.cgi?read=99678

I like pirates life fo, but I wouldn't presume that he knows more than the writers. Again, you can choose to ignore what they say, if it makes you feel better for some reason, but the fact is that the curse is broken.

Surreal, I don't think people are convincing themselves Will isn't free to satisfy themselves. I think it's just a point of confusion in the movie and people want to get some closure that the film itself doesn't offer.

The film does offer it though. 😛 It's not blatantly stated, but it's there, just like a lot of other things. 😉

OK..

I think he's set free after 10 years.

and what Terry said is accurate.

someone who knows a lot about the movie suggested that to me once...I kinda forgot about it but I just rememered it..

PS what did they say?? I'm still banned from that site..they were going to un-ban me but I think Terry told them not too...I kept saying spoilers to try and wind them up a bit..to contradict what they were saying to confuse people with their double meanings and I think it ticked him off a whole bunch LMAO

I said stuff like "Tia seems a bit CRABBY to me"

and

"i wonder if will and Jack will settle down with a nice son" LMAO

it wasn't shown to us in the movie that Will would be free of his duty after ten years,and it wasn't said that Davy would have been free from his duty if Calypso would hav been faithful.I'm sorry.It's not the same story of Richard Wagners:Flying Dutchman,and not Oddissey.They got their ideas from this opera and this epic,but that doesn't mean ending the same way.If Will should be free of his duty then it would have been in the film.