Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Despite the fact Ninja Gaiden events are mentioned in his profile?
The is no difference between Ryu and Doa Ryu they are the same characters.
Itagaki said Nes Trilogy NG is an alternate reality/world/whatever in an interview.
There are a couple of differences between Nes Trilogy Ryu and current Ryu.
However if you're talking box NG and DOA Ryu, yes they are the same guy.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Itagaki said Nes Trilogy NG is an alternate reality/world/whatever in an interview.There are a couple of differences between Nes Trilogy Ryu and current Ryu.
However if you're talking box NG and DOA Ryu, yes they are the same guy.
I know because it was retconned when Ninja Gaiden on X-Box came out. But, prior to this retcon though they were the same. Read his profile in the first DOA, it mentions somethings from the original Trilogy.
Sorry all. I was busy and my internet went down. I eventually got around to getting it back up.
Originally posted by Xenogears
You probably didn't understand what we meant. Asuka jumped off a skyscraper with her bike demonstrating her leg power. Rolling down slant surfaces has nothing to do with the fact that she jumped high off a scryscraper using her leg muscles.Jin didn't just regain consciousness. He was conscious for a good 20 seconds or so before Asuka struck him. You can nitpick all you want about it not being canon. That won't change the fact that it demonstrates her strength nonetheless. It's not like she recieved a power grade after Jin landed on her bust, so that argument is out of the window.
The fight between Hitomi and Jann Lee has never been seen. In fact none of her fights with DOA characters have. Hitomi has no showings of her strength and durability or even her speed. Asuka does, and her feats put her considerably above Hitomi since not only are they impressive but Hitomi has no feats displaying her attributes.
I never said she received an upgrade. The argument....was never IN the window. 😛
Hitomi dodged faster blows canonically BEFORE her very first appearance in DOA. She is definitely more agile and faster than Asuka. Asuka's feats don't really put her above Hitomi. She just may be stronger. Strength doesn't equal a win against Hitomi considering Jann Lee loss.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
What exactly is ambigous about jumping off Tokyo tower and not dying?
The point of the feat is to show that she's capable of taking the shock from high impacts on her legs. I'm not really concerned if riding bikes on sky-scrappers is impressive nor is it a deciding factor in said fight. My point is Asuka has the advantage in leg power, and a nice Solid Kick or Sweep can hurt Hitomi.Because we actually [B]Witnessed
Asuka hit Jin versus Hitomi fighitng Jannlee. We do not know how Hitomi reacted to Jannlee's hits. Also, regardless of jins state that punch Asuka performed was not a normal one. Because Normal punches do not send human beings flying several feet. Even if Hitomi defends against said punch a direct blow will still do her damage. Unless your arguing that Hitomi is asome kind of fighter who can tank any hits asuka performs without being worn out.You elude the fact that anyone can defeat anyone if the writer wills it. When a fight ignores specific character stats and gives a victory to an obviously weaker fighter it's called jobbing. Tell me, what exactly does Hitomi have that allowed her to beat Jannlee?
Never-mind that Jannlee has: Better Featsand a Better Fighting History. [/B]
Yes, Asuka clearly threw all of her strength into one incredibly slow punch. Emperor Ashtar, Hitomi has proved she is easily fast and agile enough to dodge faster hits before she even entered a DOA tournament. It's definitely possible she just dodged Jann Lee during the fight. It not farfetched in the least to say she can avoid any power punches from Asuka as well. Coincidentally, the "solid kick" and the "sweep" that you mentioned are two of the attacks that Hitomi dodged before she was in a DOA tournament.
I admitted that bad writing happens the first time you brough it up. I completely agree with you when the situation is obvious. However, this situation isn't bad writing. Just hear me out on this one. In Hitomi's very first appearance, it took a DOA top tier to halt her progress. That is the level the Hitomi has been since Day 1. When someone debuts at such a high level, we have to accept that is where they are. Jann Lee's fighting history isn't really better. He's just been in more tournaments. Jann Lee only really has better strength feats. Heck, Zack is ranked higher than Jann Lee is.
Believe me, you bring up some valid points on Asuka's strength, but that's all she has going for her. Unless Tekken 6 reveals something about her we don't know, she shouldn't realistically compete with someone who is at Hitomi's place on the hierarchy.
Thank you.
That's my same opinion about Hitomi. In her debut she managed to kick ass until she was stopped by Hayate. She may have become a klutz in DOA4, but her fighting skills are not to be underestimated.
Besides IMO Asuka supporters are putting too much weight on Asuka's punch feat. It is not really that impressive, but whatever to each their own.
Originally posted by StyleTimeHitomi dodged faster blows canonically BEFORE her very first appearance in DOA. She is definitely more agile and faster than Asuka. Asuka's feats don't really put her above Hitomi. She just may be stronger. Strength doesn't equal a win against Hitomi considering Jann Lee loss.
Proof please, show me hitomi dodging said blows. And, you keep mentioning an ambigous fight with Jann lee despite the fact the fight doesn't prove anything except that the writers wanted her to win. Do you realize that anyone can be written a victory regardless of stats?
It's called jobbing, and game versus seems to have a problem admitting that it happens.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Yes, Asuka clearly threw all of her strength into one incredibly slow punch.
Never said she didn't, but the punch was powerful no less. And, the punch was not slow, stop with the minimalizing Styletime.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Emperor Ashtar, Hitomi has proved she is easily fast and agile enough to dodge faster hits [B]before she even entered a DOA tournament. [/B]
What hits, post them.
Originally posted by StyleTimeIt's definitely possible she just dodged Jann Lee during the fight. It not farfetched in the least to say she can avoid any power punches from Asuka as well. Coincidentally, the "solid kick" and the "sweep" that you mentioned are two of the attacks that Hitomi dodged before she was in a DOA tournament.
Post the video or proof stating that she dodge quick blows.
Originally posted by StyleTime
In Hitomi's very [B]first appearance, it took a DOA top tier to halt her progress. That is the level the Hitomi has been since Day 1. When someone debuts at such a high level, we have to accept that is where they are. [/B]
Doesn't matter, feats are needed to gauge fights in versus. Unless Hitomi had some victories in her back-story, I would understand, but no feat/lack of feats victories are suspect. I never ever take them regardless of who it is.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Jann Lee's fighting history isn't really [B]better. He's just been in more tournaments. Jann Lee only really has better strength feats. Heck, Zack is ranked higher than Jann Lee is.[/B]
Your going by ranking, I'm going by feats. Jannlee has feats, hitomi does not.