Drug Users

After just reading that closed thread and feeling quite strongly on the subject I thought I would make this. First of all the word drug ranges from paracetamol to cannabis to heroin. Its not good to just lump all illegal drugs in to the one category as it just does not work. Heroin/crack/meth these are the drugs that will with out a doubt ruin your life if you use on a constant basis. There is no known medical or any type of benefit from taking these drugs. Then we look at cannabis. Cannabis can help with Appetite Loss, Nausea, Cancer Chemotherapy, AIDS Wasting Syndrome, Multiple Sclerosis, Depression, Chronic Pain and in fact, there is a huge list of illness and diseases that it can help with. A simple google search will come up with a list. The plant in it self can be used for thousands of different thing, it is the only plant in the world with such a wide variety of things to use it for. It can be used for food, medicine, fuel, make cosmetic products like soap, shampoo etc, fabrics to make things like clothes and shoes, insulation, cooking oils, printing inks and thats just off the top of my head. Before it was made illegal in the U.S it was said it would replace trees with making paper from hemp, it was even illegal not to to grow it in some states during the 1800's. I'm not to interested in the legal state of any other drug but cannabis. It angers me that such a plant is illegal because of a single one if its uses, its amazing bud properties. This plant should not in anyway be illegal this plant has been said time and time again to be more effective in treating some things than prescription drugs, mainly due to having no side effects. Yea this was more or less a rant after seeing so many times people make judgments about some thing in which, they have no idea what there talking about. Not all drugs are safe, not all drugs are good but cannabis is a plant sent from God.

Originally posted by Magee
Heroin/crack/meth these are the drugs that will with out a doubt ruin your life if you use on a constant basis.

Based on...? Don't assume they'll ruin lives. The fact that they look ruined to us doesn't make them so.

Originally posted by Magee
There is no known medical or any type of benefit from taking these drugs. Then we look at cannabis. Cannabis can help with Appetite Loss, Nausea, Cancer Chemotherapy, AIDS Wasting Syndrome, Multiple Sclerosis, Depression, Chronic Pain and in fact, there is a huge list of illness and diseases that it can help with. A simple google search will come up with a list. The plant in it self can be used for thousands of different thing, it is the only plant in the world with such a wide variety of things to use it for. It can be used for food, medicine, fuel, make cosmetic products like soap, shampoo etc, fabrics to make things like clothes and shoes, insulation, cooking oils, printing inks and thats just off the top of my head. Before it was made illegal in the U.S it was said it would replace trees with making paper from hemp, it was even illegal not to to grow it in some states during the 1800's. I'm not to interested in the legal state of any other drug but cannabis. It angers me that such a plant is illegal because of a single one if its uses, its amazing bud properties. This plant should not in anyway be illegal this plant has been said time and time again to be more effective in treating some things than prescription drugs, mainly due to having no side effects. Yea this was more or less a rant after seeing so many times people make judgments about some thing in which, they have no idea what there talking about. Not all drugs are safe, not all drugs are good but cannabis is a plant sent from God.

So the obvious and simple solution is everyone mind their own business and let people do exactly as they wish with their own bodies so long as it harms nobody else.

Done.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Based on...? Don't assume they'll ruin lives. The fact that they look ruined to us doesn't make them so.

So the obvious and simple solution is everyone mind their own business and let people do exactly as they wish with their own bodies so long as it harms nobody else.

Crack has destroyed whole communities in countless urban areas in most countries of the world. It's harming more than just users. And once someone is addicted to crack, meth, smack or even coke, their lives are ruined. They're a slave to something that's destroying their bodies and dissolving their brains, they often become blind to reason and unless they do something about kicking the habit, it's a guarenteed downward spiral. Because once you're an addict, all that matters is the kick.

There is a reason some drugs are classified as 'A' and have huge consequences for convicted sellers. They ruin lives. Fact.

Thats exactly how I feel unfortunatley the government seems to think they have the right to tell us what we can and can't put in our bodies. Also I know a few people who do heroin and they just not the same people maybe they don't think it has ruined their lives but just looking at them makes me feel sorry for em. They don't have jobs, they steal stuff and sell it so they can get a tenner bag which will last them about half a day then its back to stealing out of shops, selling to others while getting caught locked up and released to do the same thing all over.

All I can say is that in about 90% of the greatest and 90% of the dumbest things I've ever done...I wasn't sober while doing them.

Depends on the person.

Originally posted by botankus
All I can say is that in about 90% of the greatest and 90% of the dumbest things I've ever done...I wasn't sober while doing them.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

So the obvious and simple solution is everyone mind their own business and let people do exactly as they wish with their own bodies so long as it harms nobody else.

Done.

-AC

pretty much. but that will never happen.
the very word "drugs" is hypocritical and hones to a blatant double standard. whether you overdose on meth or smoke a joint, they call it "taking drugs", yet everyone giggles at their own anecdotes of misadventures while completely hammered on alcohol, all the while denying that they're taking a mind-altering, body damaging, life wrecking, and highly addictive narcotic which is somehow socially encouraged.

now lets just get the circular argument in swing like with every 'drug' thread. you all know the words, so feel free to sing along:

-its wrong because its illegal
-its illegal because its wrong
-*keeeeeeerplunk*

Drugs are good

just not for everyone...

Originally posted by inimalist
Drugs are good

just not for everyone...

which is why...as always...everyone has to decide for themselves whether to take the risk.

Illegal drugs are not good for you, they harm you, there is legal equivalents for dealing with those problems listed, if you want to take drugs like cannabis then that's fine, but don't preach that it's right.

Originally posted by Bardock42
So it is even?

No regrets. Except for the dumb stuff.

Originally posted by §P0oONY
Illegal drugs are not good for you, they harm you, there is legal equivalents for dealing with those problems listed, if you want to take drugs like cannabis then that's fine, but don't preach that it's right.

naturalistic fallacy 😛

Originally posted by §P0oONY
Illegal drugs are not good for you, they harm you, there is legal equivalents for dealing with those problems listed, if you want to take drugs like cannabis then that's fine, but don't preach that it's right.

It is though.

If you want to do it.

Can give you excellent insights too.

Pot doesnt help depression, it infact intensifies it. Cancer patients are given pot to ease pain, aswell increase apetite. I'm not one to say that pot is the devils tool, i infact believe it is less harmfull than alchohol, but it is still a drug and brings negative consequences. To say that pot brings nothing but smiles and ideas, is a remark made by either a stoner or out of ignorance

Originally posted by Bardock42
It is though.

If you want to do it.

Can give you excellent insights too.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Pot doesnt help depression, it infact intensifies it. Cancer patients are given pot to ease pain, aswell increase apetite. I'm not one to say that pot is the devils tool, i infact believe it is less harmfull than alchohol, but it is still a drug and brings negative consequences. To say that pot brings nothing but smiles and ideas, is a remark made by either a stoner or out of ignorance

And positive consequences. Don't forget the positive consequences.

Originally posted by §P0oONY
I meant "right" in a legal stance, over moral.

In that case it is right in the Netherlands and not right in the UK.

What point are you trying to make?

Originally posted by Bardock42
In that case it is right in the Netherlands and not right in the UK.

What point are you trying to make?

And in the Netherlands it is not legal, it's illegal but there is no prosecution.

Originally posted by Bardock42
And positive consequences. Don't forget the positive consequences.

everything brings benefits aswell as consequences...the question is...do the benefits outweigh the consequences? This person says NO. Addiction, numbed senses refelexes and train of thought, followed by loss of ambition over prolonged use do not seem very appealing to me. Oh yeah, the after effects of quitting pot can last up to 6 months. Depression definitely follows after quitting pot after a prolonged use