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Originally posted by Sparkly
I think what is bothering you is that I was right. You are in no position to decline that being 'Emo' is not a subculture because it is. Fake subculture, inofficial subculture or just wierd subculture does not matter. It is a subculture. It is also a behaviour even if it is an inaccurate usage of words. It is a behaviour that today youth call 'Emo' which inofficialy makes it 'emo'. You may not like it. I do not like it. That is unfortunatly the way it is. Punk is a music genre. It is a subculture too.
There is such a thing as what has come to be known as the "emo scene.", this is not what I was denying. The FACT is that the bands currently being labelled emo are not making emo MUSIC, just because they adhere to the emo SCENE. I just call all people who adhere to scenes, scene kids. I don't do them the dignity of giving their scene a name, but if you want to label THIS particular scene and its stereotypes (The fringes etc.) 'emo', do so. Bands dressing this way do not inherently make emo music just because they encompass a modern emo LOOK.
Bruce Dickinson looked more like someone from the punk scene when he performed in Iron Maiden, a metal band, but you didn't hear anyone calling THEM punk.
A band is not making emo MUSIC just because they adhere to what has come to be an emo SCENE. They are separate.
Even in this case, bands like Bun Bun named do not even adhere to the stupid scene that HAS been created by MySpace kids everywhere. They're just normal pop bands.
My issue is with people saying bands are making emo music when they are not.
Originally posted by Sparkly
Me not going to the music forum is not a sign that I lack brain or have some special kind of brain that do not go there. I adore music. I love music. I know a lot about music. I used to be in a band. I listen to everything. I have favorite singers. I have favorite bands. I have favorite guitarists. I have favorite drummers. I have a great sense of music. I love everything from singing alone without background music to great orcesters. I listen to music as good as constantly no matter what I do.
Saying all that is very nice, but thus far I've seen no backing and nothing that proves your knowledge.
Originally posted by Sparkly
I do not talk about music because I do not think anyone have the same sense of music and I do and I do not consider others worthy of my musical opinion. That is why I do not visit the music forum. My views are unique and I prefere keeping them to myself until I find someone that really can understand my sense of music.
Point proven. You're sitting here with a very wrong view of emo, a very lacking sense of musical history, and you are telling me that other people do not have worthy views? At least have some reason to hold such a pretentious opinion of yourself, like...you know, actually know of that which you address.
Originally posted by Sparkly
My brain is most likely in a league far ahead of yours. Just talking down upon other members is a proof that you do not share the same wisdom as I do.
Come to the music forum right now, pick any issue of music and we will debate it.
That's an open challenge.
Originally posted by Sparkly
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All very pretty, but never true.
"In its original incarnation, the term emo was used to describe a subgenre of hardcore punk which originated in the Washington, DC music scene of the mid-1980s. In later years, the term emocore, short for 'emotive hardcore', was also used to describe the DC scene and some of the regional scenes that spawned from it. The term emo was derived from the fact that, on occasion, members of a band would become spontaneously and strongly emotional during performances. The most recognizable names of the period included Rites of Spring, Embrace, One Last Wish, Beefeater, Gray Matter, Fire Party, and, slightly later, Moss Icon. The first wave of emo began to fade after the breakups of most of the involved bands in the early 1990s.".
Correctly or not, emo has often been used to describe such bands as AFI, Alexisonfire, Brand New, Bright Eyes, Coheed and Cambria, Fall Out Boy, From First to Last, Funeral for a Friend, Hawthorne Heights, My Chemical Romance, Panic! at the Disco, Senses Fail, Something Corporate, The Starting Line, Story of the Year, Taking Back Sunday, Thursday, The Used, and Underoath.
The classification of bands as 'emo' is often controversial. Fans of several of the listed bands have recoiled at the use of the 'emo' tag, and have gone to great lengths to explain why they don't qualify as 'emo'.
In many cases, the term has simply been attached to them because of musical similarities, a common fashion sense, or because of the band's popularity within the 'emo' scene, not because the band adheres to emo as a music genre.".
Attaching the word to the music because the ones making it adhere to an entirely unrelated, image based scene is something that people who know nothing would do, far from actually knowing their shit.
See you in the music forum. Any subject, your choice.
I will have you cowering back in this forum within the first two pages, unless you are one of those who believe posting = keeping in the debate.
-AC