Originally posted by FeceMan
Far from it.Two questions:
1. How can we be sure that these people weren't plants?
2. Do you have a link to this?EDIT:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/55666/chris_angels_voodoo/
I like the comments.
How do you know it wasn't a fancy wires trick or something? Magicians have used levitation tricks all the time.
How do you know that it was? Can you see how asinine that question is?
Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Yet you still have not proven to me that they have used magic. Do you think you're the first to have these ideas or thoughts about simple men who perform illusions that were thought to be WICCANS, not witches, or warlocks, but WICCANS!? I take back what I said due to my earlier statement. I nor you can prove that they have really used magic and I'm convinced that only someone gifted in the arts could actually tell. You have an impressive argument though. I personally think that albeit to any opinions that if they really were using magic and not sot form of illusion that they would have "mysteryously dissapeared" due to the exposure factor. Don't get me wrong you post a valid statement... I'm just not sure and won't be until I see some hard facts and evidence. Savvy?
You have not proven to me that they have not used witchcraft. Voodoo is real, witchcraft is real, sorcery is real.
Originally posted by FeceMan
It's obviously fake. They're plants, and he uses a blood packet. Although the quality is poor, the wounds don't look realistic.
Your statements are disingenuous and without credibility.
Besides, tell that to all of the random spectators who know that what they witnessed and experienced was real.
Originally posted by Boris
I'd like to believe that magic was real, and that anything can happen, but looking at the evidence it shows it cannot. It's fact that both air and gravity exist, dunno about her child, yet it's not fact that Magic exists. Yes I have never seen or experienced a supernatural act, or what you think is one, but please tell me of what you experienced?
Think it crazy or whatever, but as a child and coming on into my teen years (which was about a year ago... lemme remind you I'm 14) I was terribly frightened of my house. Things that I believed were above my mortal control and in the area of paranormalcy existed in my house. I am speaking of course of spirits. Happenings that no one could explain such as doors flying both opened and closed that were previously locked, objects falling from desks, table tops, and chairs, and other paranormal activity. Only until I did research on my house did I learn about the death of a family in my house in the early 1900s (a book that is kept in the house containing it's history). I was terrified. Back then I was a Christian and a darned good one at that, but then I started to learn things for myself instead of listening only to one book. I learned about different religions and how they contradicted and I was disgusted to say the least...
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You have not proven to me that they have not used witchcraft. Voodoo is real, witchcraft is real, sorcery is real.
Please give it up. Let's just agree that neither of us can prove it one way or the other. I believe in witchcraft I'm just not sure if these particualr men are practitioners...
Let me correct myself, WICCA!
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Your statements are disingenuous and without credibility.Besides, tell that to all of the random spectators who know that what they witnessed and experienced was real.
"Nuurh, we saw him do things and it was real."
So, if someone thinks that an illusionist's tricks are real magic, it makes them magical?
Also, my statements are based on showmen using plants for years and years. What are yours based on? "Derkaderk, I sawed it on the tee-vee and it was real."
Originally posted by Boris
All that can easily be explained as wind, or simply your mind playing tricks on you. I lived in a house where over 20 people had died in a span of over 200 years and I saw nothing of the sort. You'll see that stuff if you want to see it.
I'm very well aware of the wind, thank you. And until I can prove to you what I saw I suppose you'll never comprehend, but whatever. Some people aren't mean to believe...
That is exactly right : YOU have never seen these supernatural acts...not everyone does. You asked me what my experience was (that only being one of them) and I gave you one of them...
Originally posted by Boris
Yeah just to see why you'd think that way.I really can't see how those things happening would lead you to believe it was a spirit? Why couldn't it have just been the wind?
Why does it have to be a spirit?
UH well because wind doesn't turn on fausets and open locked doors then close them back!
And when did I say there was only one spirit? There were approximately three, same as the number of people in the family. A teenage boy, a woman (most likely his mother), and a male (most likely his father)
Coincidences aren't that coincidental. And that wasn't my only count of supernatural happenings
Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Please give it up. Let's just agree that neither of us can prove it one way or the other. I believe in witchcraft I'm just not sure if these particualr men are practitioners...Let me correct myself, WICCA!
Levitation is not enough proof for you that David Blaine and Chriss Angel are involved in witchcraft?
Originally posted by FeceMan
Far from it.Two questions:
1. How can we be sure that these people weren't plants?
2. Do you have a link to this?EDIT:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/55666/chris_angels_voodoo/
I like the comments.
How do you know it wasn't a fancy wires trick or something? Magicians have used levitation tricks all the time.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/58441/chriss_angels_telekinesis/ (explain this logically Feceman)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/343034/chriss_angel_makes_girl_dissappear/ (okay now explain this one)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/44391/david_blaine_quarter_bite/ (and explain this one too)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/130552/david_blaine_changes_coffee_into_money/ (and this one)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/32558/chicken_magic/ (try explaining this one)
There are only two possible causes:
1) special effects
2) supernatural power
There is no way that there could be special effects because everything is in the street (not a studio). So that only leaves one other explanation: supernatural power.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/58441/chriss_angels_telekinesis/ (explain this logically Feceman)http://www.metacafe.com/watch/343034/chriss_angel_makes_girl_dissappear/ (okay now explain this one)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/44391/david_blaine_quarter_bite/ (and explain this one too)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/130552/david_blaine_changes_coffee_into_money/ (and this one)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/32558/chicken_magic/ (try explaining this one)
There are only two possible causes:
1) special effects
2) supernatural powerThere is no way that there could be special effects because everything is in the street (not a studio). So that only leaves one other explanation: supernatural power.
hahaha...you're funny...
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/162401/criss_angel_spoiler/
chris angel has a dvd explaining his tricks and how they are done
as for the david blaine tricks...i can do most of them myself
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/58441/chriss_angels_telekinesis/ (explain this logically Feceman)http://www.metacafe.com/watch/343034/chriss_angel_makes_girl_dissappear/ (okay now explain this one)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/44391/david_blaine_quarter_bite/ (and explain this one too)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/130552/david_blaine_changes_coffee_into_money/ (and this one)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/32558/chicken_magic/ (try explaining this one)
There are only two possible causes:
1) special effects
2) supernatural powerThere is no way that there could be special effects because everything is in the street (not a studio). So that only leaves one other explanation: supernatural power.
It's an illusion not magic.