Angel Boards, Witchboards, and Ouija Boards Avoid Them

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I have only posted my comments in the Religion Forum (nowhere else), and I have never said anything remotely offensive about African-Americans. I believe that you have me confused with someone else.

Why won't I trust you? This is not about trust. I don't know why don't you talk to me in a civilized manner? Attorneys of law? Not believe you?

I accept your apology but I don't understand where any of this is coming from.

Correction, I made one post in the General Discussion Forum but it was about David Blaine and Chriss Angel (who are not African-American). Also, the post had nothing to do with race.

But they are warlocks, right?

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
That's really a difficult question. I suppose it's because you have good intentions, but perform them wrongfully. I can sense the good in people and you have a great abundance of it, get it?

Why do you sense good in me? What you are sensing is the presence of the Holy Spirit (of God). It is Jesus' presence in my spirit, heart, and life that you sense--not my intrinsic goodness per se. Just think: if you can sense a measure of goodness in me (even though I give God the glory for it), how much more good is God? God truly works in all believers both to will and do for His good pleasure. Truly there is none good but One: God the Father in Heaven. Go Jesus!

😄

Originally posted by Boris
But they are warlocks, right?

It's been proven that they're mere illusionists though them being wiccans would be much more interesting. Witch, Warlock, and other such terms are deragatory terms for Wiccans.

Originally posted by Boris
But they are warlocks, right?

Or sorcerers, either term describes them.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why do you sense good in me? What you are sensing is [B]the presence of the Holy Spirit (of God). It is Jesus' presence in my spirit, heart, and life that you sense--not my intrinsic goodness per se. Just think: if you can sense a measure of goodness in me (even though I give God the glory for it), how much more good is God? God truly works in all believers both to will and do for His good pleasure. Truly there is none good but One: God the Father in Heaven. Go Jesus!

😄 [/B]

Actually I didn't just sense good in you... I can sense good in anyone whether they be Christian, Atheist, Muslim, it honeslty doesn't matter. I persons morals and goodness are not defined by religion. But that's beside the point, do you agree to listen or don't you?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Or sorcerers, either term describes them.

Hahaha, good, just making sure.

They don't use real magic.

Of course they don't, magic doesn't exist, it's all an illusion, or delusion... like religion!

Originally posted by Boris
Hahaha, good, just making sure.

Why does no one listen to me? They do not use real magic... illusionists! And sorceror, witch, wizard, warlock... these are all deragatory terms. And to be specific warlocks are evil sorcerors. Male witches are called just that, witches.

Originally posted by Boris
Of course they don't, magic doesn't exist, it's all an illusion, or delusion... like religion!

Remind me why you came here? And please explain to me how you know magic does not exist?

I'm interested in Religion, why people believe it.

Magic is an illusion, sleight of hand, or an elaborate stage show. People cannot fly, if you jump from a height, you'll fall - gravity. People cannot be cut into two and rejoined unharmed, humans do not possess that ability.

Why? What magic do you think is real?

I believe in real magic. I just don't believe they are using magic.

Originally posted by Boris
I'm interested in Religion, why people believe it.

Magic is an illusion, sleight of hand, or an elaborate stage show. People cannot fly, if you jump from a height, you'll fall - gravity. People cannot be cut into two and rejoined unharmed, humans do not possess that ability.

Why? What magic do you think is real?

From what I can tell you do not believe in magic because you have never seen or experienced a supernatural act. I cannot say anything to convince you, but I an tell you that making arguments based on observation are as likely to fall through as a fault priest. You cannot see air, gravity, or Katie Homles child yet you believe they exist. Magic is unexplainable so I cannot provide my logical insight, though can you? I believe in the supernatural solely because I believe that anything can happen. I'm a fantasizer!

It'd make more sense to say instead that you do not believe in magic rather than it does not exist because you cannot provide any real proof...

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
It's been proven that they're mere illusionists though them being wiccans would be much more interesting. Witch, Warlock, and other such terms are deragatory terms for Wiccans.

It has not been proven that they are illusionists. I believe that I have proven that they are sorcerers or warlocks. They do what they do by witchcraft. I happened upon a Chriss Angel program on A&E today, and saw him do a number of things that no illusionist is capable of doing. I saw Chriss Angel walk up to three individuals with a voodoo doll in his hands. Chriss Angel assured his participants that what he had was not a voodoo doll (like I have said before they minimize everything that they do to gain people's trust. If they came right out and admitted that they were practicing witchcraft people would have nothing to do with them). Anyhoo, Chriss Angel told the woman that he needed something from her (which is another voodoo principle) in order to perform what he wanted to perform. The woman gave Chriss Angel a ring from her finger. Chriss Angel put the ring on the voodoo doll (that he assured her was not really a voodoo doll), told her to turn around (with her back facing him) and told her to let him know when she felt something. Chriss Angel produced a lighter and began to burn the voodoo doll on the hand where the ring was. While Chriss Angel was doing this the woman began to shake her hand and express discomfort until finally she turned around after saying "ouch, ouch!".

The second participant (these were all isolated instances) was another woman. Chriss angel repeated the procedure, and told the woman to turn her back to him. Next Chriss Angel proceeded to burn the doll on the foot. Suddenly, the woman began to shake her feet and started to express extreme pain. The perplexed woman turned around and witnessed Chriss Angel burning the voodoo doll on the foot where she had the pain.

The third participant was a man. This big, husky guy's reaction was different from the two ladies' reaction. The big man with his back to Chriss Angel waited patiently for Chriss Angel to demonstrate his magic (i.e. witchcraft). The moment that Chriss Angel lit the voodoo doll the big man shouted, "ow!" "WHAT ARE YOU DOING MAN!" The big guy shook his finger and put it in his mouth to alleviate the pain. Chriss Angel realized that this man was upset so he offered to let the man use the voodoo doll on him. This time the big man took the voodoo doll, and impaled the hand of the doll (all the while this man had his back to Chriss Angel. The moment that the guy impaled the hand of the doll the palm of Chriss Angel's hand began to form a puddle of blood. The camera never left the entire scene as it transpired. Chriss Angel and the man were caught on tape at the same time. Chriss had no way to put fake blood in his hand (the entire event was captured as it transpired). The moment that the man impaled the voodoo doll Chriss Angel expressed pain. The man turned around immediately to find Chriss angel holding his wrist and displaying the blood in his hand.

In another scene Chriss Angel levitated in front of a crowd while facing the crowd and only about 8ft from the crowd (this immediately rules out the Balduccian Method of levitation which is an illusion). Chriss Angel levitated, arms outstretched, about 5 to 6ft off the ground.

In another scene Chriss Angel was inside of a building with high, vaulted ceilings. One random spectator on either side of Chriss Angel held onto his outstretched hand as he prepared to levitate. The moment that Chriss Angel began to levitate the two women released his hands frantically, backed away quickly, and covered their mouths as Chriss Angel levitated at least 8 to 10ft off of the ground, then came back down slowly (Again this rules out the Balducci Method or special effects). Chriss Angel has admitted that he will not perform any witchcraft (I mean magic) unless he can do it live.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It has not been proven that they are illusionists. I believe that I have proven that they are sorcerers or warlocks.

Far from it.
I saw Chriss Angel walk up to three individuals with a voodoo doll in his hands. Chriss Angel assured his participants that what he had was not a voodoo (like I have said before they minimize everything that they do to gain people's trust. If they came right out and admitted that they were practicing witchcraft people would have nothing to do with them). Anyhoo, Chriss Angel told the woman that he needed something from her (which is another voodoo principle) in order to peform what he wanted to perform. The woman gave Chriss Angel a ring from her finger. Chriss Angel put the ring on the voodoo doll (that he assured her was not really a voodoo doll), told her to turn around (with her back facing him) and let him know when she felt something. Chriss Angel produced a lighter and began to burn the voodoo doll on the hand where the ring was. While Chriss Angel was doing this the woman began to shake her hand and express discomfort until finally she turned around after saying ouch, ouch.

The second participant (these were all isolated instances) was another woman. Chriss angel repeated the procedure, and told the woman to turn her back to him. Next Chriss Angel proceeded to burn the doll on the foot. Suddenly, the woman began to shake her feet and started to express extreme pain. The perplexed woman turned around and witnessed Chriss Angel burning the voodoo doll on the foot where she had the pain.

The third participant was a man. This big, husky guy's reaction was different from the two ladies' reaction. The big man with his back to Chriss Angel waited patiently for Chriss Angel to demonstrate his magic (i.e. witchcraft). The moment that Chriss Angel lit the voodoo doll the big man shouted, "ow!" "WHAT ARE YOU DOING MAN!" The big guy shook his finger and put it in his mouth to alleviate the pain. Chriss Angel realized that this man was upset so he offered to let the man use the voodoo doll on him. This time the big man took the voodoo doll, and impaled the hand of the doll (all the while this man had his back to Chriss Angel. The moment that the guy impaled the hand of the doll the palm of Chriss Angel's hand began to form a puddle of blood. The camera never left the entire scene as it transpired. Chriss Angel and the man were caught on tape at the same time. Chriss had no time to put fake blood in his hand. The moment that the man impaled the voodoo doll Chriss Angel expressed pain. The man turned around immediately to find Chriss angel holding his wrist and displaying the blood in his hand.


Two questions:

1. How can we be sure that these people weren't plants?
2. Do you have a link to this?

EDIT:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/55666/chris_angels_voodoo/

I like the comments.

In anothe scence Chriss Angel levitate in front of a crowd while facing the crowd and only about 8ft from the crowd (this immediately rules out the Balduccian Method of levitation which is an illusion). Chriss Angel levitated, arms outstretched, about 5 to 6ft off the ground.

In another scene Chriss Angel was inside of a building with high, vaulted ceilings. One random spectator on either side of Chriss Angel held onto his outstretched hand as he prepared to levitate. The moment that Chriss Angel began to levitate the woman released his hands frantically, backed away quickly, and covered their mouths as Chriss Angel levitated at least 8 to 10ft off of the ground, then came back down slowly (Again this rules out the Balducci Method or special effects). Chriss Angel has admitted that he will not perform any witchcraft (I mean magic) unless he can do it live.


How do you know it wasn't a fancy wires trick or something? Magicians have used levitation tricks all the time.

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
From what I can tell you do not believe in magic because you have never seen or experienced a supernatural act. I cannot say anything to convince you, but I an tell you that making arguments based on observation are as likely to fall through as a fault priest. You cannot see air, gravity, or Katie Homles child yet you believe they exist. Magic is unexplainable so I cannot provide my logical insight, though can you? I believe in the supernatural solely because I believe that anything can happen. I'm a fantasizer!

I'd like to believe that magic was real, and that anything can happen, but looking at the evidence it shows it cannot. It's fact that both air and gravity exist, dunno about her child, yet it's not fact that Magic exists. Yes I have never seen or experienced a supernatural act, or what you think is one, but please tell me of what you experienced?

AHAHAHA.

He obviously has some kind of blood packet that he uses on his hand.

One can even see something on his wrist when he feigns being in pain.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It has not been proven that they are illusionists. I believe that I have proven that they are sorcerers or warlocks. They do what they do by witchcraft. I happened upon a Chriss Angel program on A&E today, and saw him do a number of things that no illusionist is capable of doing. I saw Chriss Angel walk up to three individuals with a voodoo doll in his hands. Chriss Angel assured his participants that what he had was not a voodoo doll (like I have said before they minimize everything that they do to gain people's trust. If they came right out and admitted that they were practicing witchcraft people would have nothing to do with them). Anyhoo, Chriss Angel told the woman that he needed something from her (which is another voodoo principle) in order to perform what he wanted to perform. The woman gave Chriss Angel a ring from her finger. Chriss Angel put the ring on the voodoo doll (that he assured her was not really a voodoo doll), told her to turn around (with her back facing him) and let him know when she felt something. Chriss Angel produced a lighter and began to burn the voodoo doll on the hand where the ring was. While Chriss Angel was doing this the woman began to shake her hand and express discomfort until finally she turned around after saying ouch, ouch.

The second participant (these were all isolated instances) was another woman. Chriss angel repeated the procedure, and told the woman to turn her back to him. Next Chriss Angel proceeded to burn the doll on the foot. Suddenly, the woman began to shake her feet and started to express extreme pain. The perplexed woman turned around and witnessed Chriss Angel burning the voodoo doll on the foot where she had the pain.

The third participant was a man. This big, husky guy's reaction was different from the two ladies' reaction. The big man with his back to Chriss Angel waited patiently for Chriss Angel to demonstrate his magic (i.e. witchcraft). The moment that Chriss Angel lit the voodoo doll the big man shouted, "ow!" "WHAT ARE YOU DOING MAN!" The big guy shook his finger and put it in his mouth to alleviate the pain. Chriss Angel realized that this man was upset so he offered to let the man use the voodoo doll on him. This time the big man took the voodoo doll, and impaled the hand of the doll (all the while this man had his back to Chriss Angel. The moment that the guy impaled the hand of the doll the palm of Chriss Angel's hand began to form a puddle of blood. The camera never left the entire scene as it transpired. Chriss Angel and the man were caught on tape at the same time. Chriss had no time to put fake blood in his hand. The moment that the man impaled the voodoo doll Chriss Angel expressed pain. The man turned around immediately to find Chriss angel holding his wrist and displaying the blood in his hand.

In another scene Chriss Angel levitate in front of a crowd while facing the crowd and only about 8ft from the crowd (this immediately rules out the Balduccian Method of levitation which is an illusion). Chriss Angel levitated, arms outstretched, about 5 to 6ft off the ground.

In another scene Chriss Angel was inside of a building with high, vaulted ceilings. One random spectator on either side of Chriss Angel held onto his outstretched hand as he prepared to levitate. The moment that Chriss Angel began to levitate the woman released his hands frantically, backed away quickly, and covered their mouths as Chriss Angel levitated at least 8 to 10ft off of the ground, then came back down slowly (Again this rules out the Balducci Method or special effects). Chriss Angel has admitted that he will not perform any witchcraft (I mean magic) unless he can do it live.

Yet you still have not proven to me that they have used magic. Do you think you're the first to have these ideas or thoughts about simple men who perform illusions that were thought to be WICCANS, not witches, or warlocks, but WICCANS!? I take back what I said due to my earlier statement. I nor you can prove that they have really used magic and I'm convinced that only someone gifted in the arts could actually tell. You have an impressive argument though. I personally think that albeit to any opinions that if they really were using magic and not sot form of illusion that they would have "mysteryously dissapeared" due to the exposure factor. Don't get me wrong you post a valid statement... I'm just not sure and won't be until I see some hard facts and evidence. Savvy?