Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
?You and Devil King have something in common: selective reading and/or inability to comprehend written material.
Show me where I said anything about hating someone and loving them? Do you not understand that there are two things under discussion here:
[B]1) the person
2) the person's actions or lifestyleFor the umpteenth time I do not hate the person, I simply despise their sin (it is sending them to Hell when they could be going to Heaven). [/B]
Am I dillusional or did I imagine this?
Psalm 97:10
You who love the LORD, hate evil !He preserves the souls of His saints; He delivers them out of the hand of the wicked.Homosexuality is an abomination and it is evil; thus, I hate it (but I love the person)
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Your pm is flaming, no thank you.
No offence, but you assume everything I write to be flaming. I'm trying to be very nice and start to try and understand you, but I can't do that if you IGNORE everything I say! Just take it into consideration, humour my poor soul. Unless of course you've deleted it already...
Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
No offence, but you assume everything I write to be flaming. I'm trying to be very nice and start to try and understand you, but I can't do that if you IGNORE everything I say! Just take it into consideration, humour my poor soul. Unless of course you've deleted it already...
No, not everything. But your pm is flaming (to me).
Now you have gone from writing a flaming pm to me to downright lying. You say that I ignore everything that you write. I have responded to what you have written to me (I am not God I may have overlooked a post somewhere, in some thread). But I have not failed to answer your posts that I was fully aware of. But if you are talking about that one flaming post where you introduced a vulgar, obscence, scenario, and then asked me what I would do in that situation, you are correct I have not responded to all of your posts.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No, not [B]everything. But your pm is flaming (to me).Now you have gone from writing a flaming pm to me to downright lying. You say that I ignore everything that you write. I have responded to what you have written to me (I am not God I may have overlooked a post somewhere, in some thread). But I have not failed to answer your posts that I was fully aware of. But if you are talking about that one flaming post where you introduced a vulgar, obscence, scenario, and then asked me what I would do in that situation, you are correct I have not responded to all of your posts. [/B]
Really? I asked you what you'd do in a situation that concerned lying to protect someones feelings or staying truthful. Is that obscene? Just please answer the pm. Whether you think it's "flaming" or not... it'll give me a more indepth view of how you think... What makes you tick. I may have exagerated to say that you have ignored al of my posts, but you have "overlooked" a good bit of them... which makes me wonder
Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Really? I asked you what you'd do in a situation that concerned lying to protect someones feelings or staying truthful. Is that obscene? Just please answer the pm. Whether you think it's "flaming" or not... it'll give me a more indepth view of how you think... What makes you tick. I may have exagerated to say that you have ignored al of my posts, but you have "overlooked" a good bit of them... which makes me wonder
That is not correct you asked me whether I would have sex with my sister or with a man (and you wonder why I have not yet responded to that post).
Ashestoashesjc, do you have any idea how many posts I respond to in a given moment of time? Yesterday I was responding to several posts and a pm, going back and forth from thread to thread, and person to person trying make sure that no one was overlooked (like I said I am only a man, I cannot accommodate everyone at the same time, all the time).
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
That is not correct you asked me whether I would have sex with my sister or with a man (and you wonder why I have not yet responded to that post).Ashestoashesjc, do you have any idea how many posts I respond to in a given moment of time? Yesterday I was responding to several posts and a pm, going back and forth from thread to thread, and person to person trying make sure that no one was overlooked (like I said I am only a man, I cannot accommodate everyone at the same time, all the time).
OK, I admit that that was a low blow, but just try to understand... I'm just trying to get through to you. So far nothing I've said has even made a dent. I'm not trying to change your religion, beliefs, ideals, or views. Just helping you see that they way you present them is offensive or threatening to some groups of people. If you don't listen to me from principle then how about thinking about the fact that people were never acceptant of Jesus' teachings at first, but he swayed them. By ignoring me are you any better than those ignorant people?
Also I apologize for rushing you into things...
Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
OK, I admit that that was a low blow, but just try to understand... I'm just trying to get through to you. So far nothing I've said has even made a dent. I'm not trying to change your religion, beliefs, ideals, or views. Just helping you see that they way you present them is offensive or threatening to some groups of people. If you don't listen to me from principle then how about thinking about the fact that people were never acceptant of Jesus' teachings at first, but he swayed them. By ignoring me are you any better than those ignorant people?
Be specific, what have I presented that was offensive to you or threatening to you?
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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Be specific, what have I presented that was offensive to you or threatening to you?😕
Specifically, racial slurs, discriminative comments against lifestlyles, and frightening people with being condemned to hell. You're doing a rightrous act of kindness and faith, but there are people that hate you solely because you phrase things in "less than acceptable ways" I'm personally trying not to harshly judge you and to get a chance to know you before I take the time to judge... don't shoot me down so easily...
Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Specifically, racial slurs, discriminative comments against lifestlyles, and frightening people with being condemned to hell. You're doing a rightrous act of kindness and faith, but there are people that hate you solely because you phrase things in "less than acceptable ways" I'm personally trying not to harshly judge you and to get a chance to know you before I take the time to judge... don't shoot me down so easily...
What racial slurs (be specific)?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
What racial slurs (be specific).
Without naming what specific board it was (seeing as I've forgotten the name) I distinctly remember you saying something about black people that I found offensive. Without delving into details tell me why you won't trust me and just allow me to talk with you in a civilized manner. We're both very sane individuals who I'm sure could talk for at least five minutes without attourneys of law getting involved. Is it something I've done in the past that's lead you to not believe me? If so, I apologize wholeheartedly. Beleive me when I say I have good intentions and I just want to help.
Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Without naming what specific board it was (seeing as I've forgotten the name) I distinctly remember you saying something about black people that I found offensive. Without delving into details tell me why you won't trust me and just allow me to talk with you in a civilized manner. We're both very sane individuals who I'm sure could talk for at least five minutes without attourneys of law getting involved. Is it something I've done in the past that's lead you to not believe me? If so, I apologize wholeheartedly. Beleive me when I say I have good intentions and I just want to help.
I have only posted my comments in the Religion Forum (nowhere else), and I have never said anything remotely offensive about African-Americans. I believe that you have me confused with someone else.
Why won't I trust you? This is not about trust. I don't know why don't you talk to me in a civilized manner? Attorneys of law? Not believe you?
I accept your apology but I don't understand where any of this is coming from.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I have only posted my comments in the Religion Forum (nowhere else), and I have never said anything remotely offensive about African-Americans. I believe that you have me confused with someone else.Why won't I trust you? This is not about trust. I don't know why don't you talk to me in a civilized manner? Attorneys of law? Not believe you?
I accept your apology but I don't understand where any of this is coming from.
Just disregard everything I've said and know this: I care about what happens to people, whether they be friend or foe (I count you as neither) And the way you preach makes people angry, not because of what you say, but how it's said. It's coming from my conscience. I felt bad about nearly judging you from the things you said, then realized that everyone has a reason for the things they do. I assume you have a reason. And not just that you feel it is your duty to god. I want to get to know you and maybe eventually become your friend. I see a good person in you...
Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Just disregard everything I've said and know this: I care about what happens to people, whether they be friend or foe (I count you as neither) And the way you preach makes people angry, not because of what you say, but how it's said. It's coming from my conscience. I felt bad about nearly judging you from the things you said, then realized that everyone has a reason for the things they do. I assume you have a reason. And not just that you feel it is your duty to god. I want to get to know you and maybe eventually become your friend. I see a good person in you...
Why would you eventually want to be my friend?
Why do you see a good person in me?
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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why would you eventually want to be my friend?Why do you see a good person in me?
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That's really a difficult question. I suppose it's because you have good intentions, but perform them wrongfully. I can sense the good in people and you have a great abundance of it, get it?