Can any MUTANT beat Superman????

Here is a scan of him working on an alien mind and it is taking time for him to read it and communicate.

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As soon as Storm asked him to form a mind link it was practically instant though , he was able to tell us the Dragons thoughts immediately. He then was going to probe deeper but he sensed that the Dragons was upset that he touched it's mind and for some reason stood he stood in one place while it threw a building at him. Off-topic but Usually telepaths would get react to sensing that they're about to be attacked.

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You can put a speed on the conception of the thought...which is why everyone agrees that Superman would speedblitz Xavier. But I don't think you can put a speed on telepathy, as what you're suggesting would mean that it travels many millions of times the speed of light.
Xavier has accessed the Universal Collective Conscious(Which I don't even think exists physically) with his telepathy, Nate and Jean have communicated through dimensions...seems more like a tranverse space/time sort of thing.

And then psionic energy has differed in all it's forms: Psionic energy has been called TK Energy and TK works at the speed of light.(I have a scan)....but Psionic energy has also been called life energy and telepathic energy...which makes the whole thing convoluted and headwrecking.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
As soon as Storm asked him to form a mind link it was practically instant though , he was able to tell us the Dragons thoughts immediately. He then was going to probe deeper but he sensed that the Dragons was upset that he touched it's mind and for some reason stood he stood in one place while it threw a building at him. Off-topic but Usually telepaths would get react to sensing that they're about to be attacked.

http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinevol325image13jd6.jpg
http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinevol325image13jd6.jpg

http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=generationx00615mf3.jpg
http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=generationx00616gr9.jpg

You can put a speed on the conception of the thought...which is why everyone agrees that Superman would speedblitz Xavier. But I don't think you can put a speed on telepathy, as what you're suggesting would mean that it travels many millions of times the speed of light.
Xavier has accessed the Universal Collective Conscious(Which I don't even think exists physically) with his telepathy, Nate and Jean have communicated through dimensions...seems more like a tranverse space/time sort of thing.

And then psionic energy has differed in all it's forms: Psionic energy has been called TK Energy and TK works at the speed of light.(I have a scan)....but Psionic energy has also been called life energy and telepathic energy...which makes the whole thing convoluted and headwrecking.

X takes Kal to the Astral Plane FTW

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
As soon as Storm asked him to form a mind link it was practically instant though , he was able to tell us the Dragons thoughts immediately. He then was going to probe deeper but he sensed that the Dragons was upset that he touched it's mind and for some reason stood he stood in one place while it threw a building at him. Off-topic but Usually telepaths would get react to sensing that they're about to be attacked.

http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinevol325image13jd6.jpg
http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinevol325image13jd6.jpg

http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=generationx00615mf3.jpg
http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=generationx00616gr9.jpg

You can put a speed on the conception of the thought...which is why everyone agrees that Superman would speedblitz Xavier. But I don't think you can put a speed on telepathy, as what you're suggesting would mean that it travels many millions of times the speed of light.
Xavier has accessed the Universal Collective Conscious(Which I don't even think exists physically) with his telepathy, Nate and Jean have communicated through dimensions...seems more like a tranverse space/time sort of thing.

And then psionic energy has differed in all it's forms: Psionic energy has been called TK Energy and TK works at the speed of light.(I have a scan)....but Psionic energy has also been called life energy and telepathic energy...which makes the whole thing convoluted and headwrecking.

new son might be able to do it. that gambit guy. iceman probably can. rachel summers could on a good day. that one guy who adapts might be able to turn to krypotnite. darwin i think. if he doesn't get blitzed to all hell. proteus definitely could. as could franklin richards if they didn't get blitzed to hell. proteus might not be able to be hurt while in that blob form. scarlet witch and mad jim are both mutants correct? i'm sure they can do it.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
As soon as Storm asked him to form a mind link it was practically instant though , he was able to tell us the Dragons thoughts immediately. He then was going to probe deeper but he sensed that the Dragons was upset that he touched it's mind and for some reason stood he stood in one place while it threw a building at him. Off-topic but Usually telepaths would get react to sensing that they're about to be attacked.

http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinevol325image13jd6.jpg
http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinevol325image13jd6.jpg

http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=generationx00615mf3.jpg
http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=generationx00616gr9.jpg

You can put a speed on the conception of the thought...which is why everyone agrees that Superman would speedblitz Xavier. But I don't think you can put a speed on telepathy, as what you're suggesting would mean that it travels many millions of times the speed of light.
Xavier has accessed the Universal Collective Conscious(Which I don't even think exists physically) with his telepathy, Nate and Jean have communicated through dimensions...seems more like a tranverse space/time sort of thing.

And then psionic energy has differed in all it's forms: Psionic energy has been called TK Energy and TK works at the speed of light.(I have a scan)....but Psionic energy has also been called life energy and telepathic energy...which makes the whole thing convoluted and headwrecking.

For a long time I have defined psiconic, as mental energy. Psioncally control = mentally control.

X-man

Originally posted by carver9
Magneto and dr poloris have never destroyed a panel but it was stated in some of there books that they have the power. It could be hyperbole.

You said both Magneto and Polaris were displayed on-panel to be planet crushers. Now you’re saying it’s just hyperbole? Just statements? Cause Superman has plenty of those. Superboy said Superman destroy the planet with a sneeze, Superman stating he could destroy a planet to both the Infinity Man, and those Elementals in For Tomorrow, Batman saying Superman crack the planet in half, etc.

Here it’s directly stated that he has the power to shatter worlds. And yes, this is cannon to the current incarnation of Superman.

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk293/BattlethreadJok/Postcri.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
He destroyed a moon by flying into, not a strength feat, just durability and speed.

So what? It stills shows that he was able to destroy a moon.

Originally posted by carver9
Im saying that he never shown that he had the strength to destroy a city, let alone a mountain.

You said that Superman hasn’t shown the ability to destroy anything the size of a city, physically. Smashing into something is a physical attack.

Originally posted by carver9
By the way how long ago was this when he destroyed that meteor

It was during his Post-Death Power Up. Sometime during the 90s.

Originally posted by carver9
if its in the past then I guess I have the right to bring up some of the things that happened to him in the past.

Because we all know that Superman becomes weaker as time goes by, right?

Originally posted by carver9
I was told not to use his post crisis feats that was goes back in the 90's so why are you using them.

Everything that happened during the 90s isn’t inadmissible. It’s just that Superman has gotten stronger over the years, not weaker. At first he couldn’t survive in space unaided, these days he can survive in space indefinitely, Even Titus remarked how Superman had gotten stronger since the last time they fought. Bring up stuff like Superman getting knocked out by a gas station explosion is pretty meaningless, considering current superman wasn’t knocked out by one while he was nearly powerless. Some of the things that happened in the 90s and late 80s are simply outdated, and some are longer even cannon because of the alteration in Superman’s history.

Originally posted by Hitman911
X takes Kal to the Astral Plane FTW

Slapstick 😛

Originally posted by Rorschach
You said both Magneto and Polaris were displayed on-panel to be planet crushers. Now you’re saying it’s just hyperbole? Just statements? Cause Superman has plenty of those. Superboy said Superman destroy the planet with a sneeze, Superman stating he could destroy a planet to both the Infinity Man, and those Elementals in For Tomorrow, Batman saying Superman crack the planet in half, etc.

Here it’s directly stated that he has the power to shatter worlds. And yes, this is cannon to the current incarnation of Superman.

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk293/BattlethreadJok/Postcri.jpg

So what? It stills shows that he was able to destroy a moon.

So no Red and Blue feats??

You said that Superman hasn’t shown the ability to destroy anything the size of a city, physically. Smashing into something is a physical attack.

It was during his Post-Death Power Up. Sometime during the 90s.

Because we all know that Superman becomes weaker as time goes by, right?

Everything that happened during the 90s isn’t inadmissible. It’s just that Superman has gotten stronger over the years, not weaker. At first he couldn’t survive in space unaided, these days he can survive in space indefinitely, Even Titus remarked how Superman had gotten stronger since the last time they fought. Bring up stuff like Superman getting knocked out by a gas station explosion is pretty meaningless, considering current superman wasn’t knocked out by one while he was nearly powerless. Some of the things that happened in the 90s and late 80s are simply outdated, and some are longer even cannon because of the alteration in Superman’s history.

bump

M at her full potential could probably beat or at least stalemate Supes.
She is "perfect" after all.

Thanos, I'm not sure. It's hard to gauge his power level.

MJJ and Jamie Braddock omfgwtfpwns Supes, even the 1M or Kingdom Come versions.

Speedblitz

Havok with the Nexus of Realities?

Originally posted by kgkg
Speedblitz

Originally posted by occultdestroyer

Thanos, I'm not sure. It's hard to gauge his power level.

Exodus or Stryfe should be able to do it. Phoenix naturally.

scrambler with a hand gun could do it.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Exodus or Stryfe should be able to do it. Phoenix naturally.