Originally posted by llagrok
When did Xavier willingly abuse his telepathy? His behaviour in UXM has been a bit weird lately, but still. He never really uses his telepathy against people unless they endanger other people's lives.
He used it on Kitty, remember the whole "Professor Xavier is a jerk" thing.
He tried to use it on Emma so she would join his X-Men 1.5 in Deadly Genesis.
He mind wiped Vulcan from Cyclops' mind.
He uses children as his own personal bodyguards that enforce his idealistic and yet unpractical logic.
He believes his ethos is above the rest.
Xavier sent the X-Men 1.5 to their deaths.
He's a hypocrite, a little bit of Xavier's darker side was shown in The Rise and Fall arc, where he made Rachel abuse the X-Mens own telepathic code of ethics just to get a head.
Onslaught... O_o That wasn't just Magnetos fault.
He's part of the Illuminati 'nuff said.
That whole Danger incident in AXM.
The Ultimate Universe's Xavier has nothing on the bastardy of the 616 Version.
There's probably more but that's just off the top of my head. Marvel have established this notion of Xavier being a bastard all the way back to the UXM 100's where Claremonts description of him was that he's no better then Magneto and this notion has been carried on by other writers.
Originally posted by CasanoVaCaptain Surrender & cry about it- is no role model.
Yeah..Paedophiles don't make good role models for children 😬.
Easily Captain America, especially now that he's a martyr, I don't know about you lot.. when I was a child if he was anti-reg I'd of thought he fawkin' rocked.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
He used it on Kitty, remember the whole "Professor Xavier is a jerk" thing.
He tried to use it on Emma so she would join his X-Men 1.5 in Deadly Genesis.
He mind wiped Vulcan from Cyclops' mind.
He uses children as his own personal bodyguards that enforce his idealistic and yet unpractical logic.
He believes his ethos is above the rest.
Xavier sent the X-Men 1.5 to their deaths.
He's a hypocrite, a little bit of Xavier's darker side was shown in The Rise and Fall arc, where he made Rachel abuse the X-Mens own telepathic code of ethics just to get a head.
Onslaught... O_o That wasn't just Magnetos fault.
He's part of the Illuminati 'nuff said.
That whole Danger incident in AXM.
The Ultimate Universe's Xavier has nothing on the bastardy of the 616 Version.There's probably more but that's just off the top of my head. Marvel have established this notion of Xavier being a bastard all the way back to the UXM 100's where Claremonts description of him was that he's no better then Magneto and this notion has been carried on by other writers.
Oh my god, you are so full of shit 🙂
First of all, all children have a choice. If they want out of the school, they're out. He didn't know that X-men 1.5 were going to die did he? He's not clairvoyant. That's a mistake, not an act of evil.
Okay, so Xavier stopped Magneto from killing the rest of the x-men, after he had ripped out Wolverine's skeleton? Wow, talk about evil.
X-men deadly genesis was complete nonsense.
Danger room session? Where he took care of Danger? Was that truly so horrible?
I also mentioned that his recent behaviour had been very OUT OF CHARACTER and I agree with you there. I don't think they're doing a good job depicting him nowadays, something's changing in him. The recent UXM comics have been all about trying to make him come off as a bad guy.
Originally posted by llagrok😕 He imprisoned danger even when he found out it was sentient. He also tried to coerce Amelia Voigt into joining him even though she made it clear she didn't . He started influencing her mind to agree with him.
Oh my god, you are so full of shit 🙂First of all, all children have a choice. If they want out of the school, they're out. He didn't know that X-men 1.5 were going to die did he? He's not clairvoyant. That's a mistake, not an act of evil.
Okay, so Xavier stopped Magneto from killing the rest of the x-men, after he had ripped out Wolverine's skeleton? Wow, talk about evil.
X-men deadly genesis was complete nonsense.
Danger room session? Where he took care of Danger? Was that truly so horrible?
I also mentioned that his recent behaviour had been very OUT OF CHARACTER and I agree with you there. I don't think they're doing a good job depicting him nowadays, something's changing in him. The recent UXM comics have been all about trying to make him come off as a bad guy.
Originally posted by Big SexyI honestly don't read much X men, but one of my best friends collects pretty much any title with an X in it. Even he says Xavier is a dick. He was telling me that a couple years ago.
😕 He imprisoned danger even when he found out it was sentient. He also tried to coerce Amelia Voigt into joining him even though she made it clear she didn't . He started influencing her mind to agree with him.
Overall - Either Superman (cliche as it may be) or Captain America.
Lately though, I have to give props to Richard Rider a.k.a Nova because he has displayed more admirable qualities in recent months than anyone else. I didn't even like classic Nova, but he's one of my favorites heroes now. He has displayed tremendous leadership and courage. Go Nova!!!
Originally posted by JuntaiYeah Sage said it best "Telepaths like Emma Frost and Charles Xavier are why mankind fears us, they can go into your mind influence your thoughts. Though you think your decisions are your own, you never had a choice to begin with."
I honestly don't read much X men, but one of my best friends collects pretty much any title with an X in it. Even he says Xavier is a dick. He was telling me that a couple years ago.
Originally posted by JuntaiAmelia was his girlfriend and he started influencing her to join the X-men. He got caught when she still refused and he entered her mind instead of subtly putting ideas into her head like he was doing. When he bulldozed his way in thats when she figured out what he was doing.
I honestly don't read much X men, but one of my best friends collects pretty much any title with an X in it. Even he says Xavier is a dick. He was telling me that a couple years ago.
Originally posted by Big SexyDidn't he get the rights and the funds for the program by manipulating all kinds of people too?
Amelia was his girlfriend and he started influencing her to join the X-men. He got caught when she still refused and he entered her mind instead of subtly putting ideas into her head like he was doing. When he bulldozed his way in thats when she figured out what he was doing.
Originally posted by Juntai
Didn't he get the rights and the funds for the program by manipulating all kinds of people too?
Nope.
Influencing someone telepathically is no worse than playing on their emotions. Persuading people doesn't necessarily mean you're evil, he never straight out forces people to join his cause.
Originally posted by JuntaiI think that was the Ultimate version and the 616 . Hes the reason why the Extreme X-men series were created. Rogue, Storm, Bishop, Sage, and Gambit found destiny's diaries. In them she wrote of the future she had dreams about. They decided to hide them rather than give them to the professor who couldn't be trusted with them.
Didn't he get the rights and the funds for the program by manipulating all kinds of people too?
Originally posted by llagrokAre you kidding me. Please dude, putting thoughts into someones head and making it seem appealing in their brain is as manipulative as you can get.
Nope.Influencing someone telepathically is no worse than playing on their emotions. Persuading people doesn't necessarily mean you're evil, he never straight out forces people to join his cause.