Originally posted by Xplosive
And that is?Apocalypse easily 10/10
In HoM Civil War (I think that was it), Magneto literally turned Apocalypse into a puddle of melted goo because Mags could manipulate Apoc's body.
I realize that wasn't the 616 universe, but...it gives an indication of what Magneto can do to Apoc.
Look here for Worf Effect.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffect
Also, i'd LOVE to see some mini or maxi series, where Poccy will be depicted 'at full power', fighting herald level characters and such.
Of course, they must be set in space.
Maybe - immediately after "Blood of Apocalypse", chronologically...
Originally posted by Enyalus
In HoM Civil War (I think that was it), Magneto literally turned Apocalypse into a puddle of melted goo because Mags could manipulate Apoc's body.I realize that wasn't the 616 universe, but...it gives an indication of what Magneto can do to Apoc.
No, it doesn't, not anything even close happened to 616 Apocalypse. Not even close. What you are talking about. I guess that Apocalypse from HoM would be a match for Loki like classic 616 was. Yeah right.
Ultimate Apocalypse also isn't 616, but I guess it gives indication what 616 Apocalypse can do.
Originally posted by Enyalus
I realize that wasn't the 616 universe, but...it gives an indication of what Magneto can do to Apoc.
And even then in HoM it gave indication Magneto wouldn't be a match for that Apocalypse with brute force. And it's HoM anyway.
What about that Bishop said that Strfye and him went all out, I mean Stryfe, man, and it wasn't enough to kill Apocalypse at his weakest and you expect that could work on Apocalypse.
There weren't many confrontation by Apocalypse and Mags in 616. But it was how Loki manipulated with many villains, but couldn't do that with Apocalypse and how Apocalypse kidnapped Magneto in the twelve, although it was weaken Magneto.
Originally posted by Survivor19
Look here for Worf Effect.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffectAlso, i'd LOVE to see some mini or maxi series, where Poccy will be depicted 'at full power', fighting herald level characters and such.
Of course, they must be set in space.
Maybe - immediately after "Blood of Apocalypse", chronologically...
Well, Bishop said that Stryfe (I might remember that Stryfe=God-like Cable in power) didn't stand a chance when Apocalypse was at his peak.
Originally posted by Xplosive
No, it doesn't, not anything even close happened to 616 Apocalypse. Not even close. What you are talking about.
Originally posted by Xplosive
And even then in HoM it gave indication Magneto wouldn't be a match for that Apocalypse with brute force.
Originally posted by Xplosive
What about indication that Bishop said that Strfye and him went all out, I mean Stryfe, man, and it wasn't enough to kill Apocalypse at his weakest and you expect that could work on Apocalypse.
Originally posted by EnyalusI just told you what I was talking about, genius.[/B]
No, you actually don't know what were you talking about, since you think that gives indication what Magneto could do to Apocalypse. Forget HoM.
Originally posted by EnyalusBecause Stryfe and Magneto have similar powersets, am I right? 🙄 [/B]
Aha, so you think Magneto is clearly more powerful than Stryfe and his powers better than Stryfe or God-like Cable enormous telekinesis?
And Stryfe or God-like Cable smites Magneto, and easily actually.
Originally posted by Xplosive
No, you actually don't know what were you talking about, since you think that gives indication what Magneto could do to Apocalypse. Forget HoM.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Aha, so you think Magneto is clearly more powerful than Stryfe and his powers better than Stryfe or God-like Cable enormous telekinesis?
Magneto's powerset is better suited to take out Apocalypse than either Stryfe or Cable's.
Not to mention Stryfe doesn't have the feats to put him on God-Cable's level.
Originally posted by Xplosive
And Stryfe or God-like Cable smites Magneto, and easily actually.
Originally posted by Enyalus
In HoM Civil War (I think that was it), Magneto literally turned Apocalypse into a puddle of melted goo because Mags could manipulate Apoc's body.I realize that wasn't the 616 universe, but...it gives an indication of what Magneto can do to Apoc.
Of course, as far as main MU powerlevel goes, that HoM arc does not actually depict how a Magneto vs Apocalypse fight would go. What should be kept in mind is that, as far as I know, what happened in the HoM Universe, though not canon to the mainstream Magneto history (obviously), is still remembered by the mainstream Magneto, being one of the few persons who retained memories of that altered reality. So, as far as fighting tactics go, shutting down Apocalypse's brain is definitley something Magneto could go for.
Apocalypse wins.
To begin with, Poccy has the ability to absorb energy from any source and use it to increase his size, strength and durability. He is also able to rechannel this energy much like Bishop. Right there, Magneto's energy blasts should not be able to work against Poccy nor should Magneto be able to manipulate the iron in his blood. In order for Magneto to do the iron-in-the-blood-trick, he has to get a magnetic grip on it. In other words, he has to project the energy inside of Apocalypse who can just throw it back at him or metabolize it to grow stronger. This ability would also neutralize Magneto's force-field. Technically, all Poccy would have to do is touch the force-field and absorb it.
We have not even talked about Apocalypse's other powers yet. He can manipulate his body at the atomic level, IIRC, fly, levitate objects, enormously powerful energy blasts, regeneration, and, IIRC, didn't he enter baby Cable's mind and defeat Jean Grey in psychic combat? If so, that makes him a high end telepath as well.
The only realistic thing I can see Magneto trying to pull on Poccy in a fight is throwing metal. This is not going to be effective at all considering Poccy can transform his limbs and body into a form of armor that can deflect Magneto's metal projectiles.
Poccy has a huge advantage.
Originally posted by Survivor19
HOM Nur wasn't the real thing. He was afraid of Black Bolt.616 Nur conquered Atillan once... And BB wasn't doing anything to him...
A lot of people fear black bolt, just ask Sentry, gladiator, and hulk. Black bolt is a f***** beast.
Magneto has owned apocalypse twice, maybe more than that; that alone should answer who'll win this fight.