Originally posted by batdude123http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powe26.png
Not to mention, if Magneto wanted it to be so, Apocalypse wouldn't even be able to see/hear/track him anywhere. dopedhttp://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=visionandthescarletwitcjo3.jpg
Just another more reason why Magneto>>Apocalypse.
High E's cloaking tech>Magneto's cloaking powers. doped
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powe26.pngHigh E's cloaking tech>Magneto's cloaking powers. doped
How do you know?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
😑 Dude.....that shouldn't even be a question.
If mother f*cking LOCKJAW was not able to sense a cloaked Magneto right in front of him, what chance do you think Apocalypse would have?
Answer? None.
You overrate Apocalypse immensely.
How can Apocalypse get 6/10 against Magneto? Wait, this is coming from the same person who thought Apocalypse would beat Thor for a majority. Never mind.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powe26.pngHigh E's cloaking tech>Magneto's cloaking powers. doped
HE can render himself invisible through his psionic powers, not by tech.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestYou mean how Thor fights back in the 80's?
My bad. 😮As for Apoc vs. Thor, given how Thor fights normally, IE: like a complete ****ing moron........ Yeah, I think Apoc can take him. 😉
Plus, I like how you point out how Thor fights, but completely oblivious to how Apoc fights... it seems anyway....
I'm still 100% sure the inhibitor would work. Even if Apoc's not immune to it the fight becomes a powerless 50 year old man versus a 5000+ year old cellestial tech cyborg. The techmode virus that allows Apoc his techno-organic morphing abilities and merger with the armor aren't a result of his natural powers, it was his infection by Cable and exposure to Ship.
I'm pretty sure this is falling on deaf ears, however. Any pro Apocalypse argument, no matter how logical, gets shot down.
All that matters is flying tables.
It's semi-logical I suppose. It's also purely supposition to say that Apocalypse can even make an inhibitor. Then comes more supposition: How much does he owe his mutant abilities to being able to merge with the technology at all? Would rejection occur subsequently? How much of his ability to sustain longevity tech or otherwise does the 5000+ year old mutant owe to his mutancy.
Originally posted by illadelph12I agree actually...
I'm still 100% sure the inhibitor would work. Even if Apoc's not immune to it the fight becomes a powerless 50 year old man versus a 5000+ year old cellestial tech cyborg. The techmode virus that allows Apoc his techno-organic morphing abilities and merger with the armor aren't a result of his natural powers, it was his infection by Cable and exposure to Ship.I'm pretty sure this is falling on deaf ears, however. Any pro Apocalypse argument, no matter how logical, gets shot down.
All that matters is flying tables.
The flying tables part that is.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It's semi-logical I suppose. It's also purely supposition to say that Apocalypse can even make an inhibitor. Then comes more supposition: How much does he owe his mutant abilities to being able to merge with the technology at all? Would rejection occur subsequently? How much of his ability to sustain longevity tech or otherwise does the 5000+ year old mutant owe to his mutancy.
Unfortunately, due to all the retcons about apocalypse's powers and abilities, I can't give you an honest answer. 🙁
But to say it's supposition that he could make the inhibitor is wrong. He's fully capable of making it. My question is, does he know about the tech?
I think if Magneto cloaks himself, Apocalypse would be disoriented. He wouldn't know where the f*ck Magneto is. That's a huge advantage in and of itself.
Mags could fly far enough away then out of the inhibitor's range (IF Apocalypse even has one) to make it void.
Erik can has shown to be able to sense energy/people around the planet, like when he controlled 37 satellites in space. His conscience can follow people all across the globe, like here:
http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thexmenvstheavengers042xb7.jpg
Does it make sense? Not really. Nevertheless, even from a vast distance, Magneto could still realistically defeat Apocalypse.
Also, regardless of whether or not Apocalypse even has an inhibitor, it's COMPLETELY out of his character for him to risk depowering himself in order to beat an opponent.
So, basically, until he makes a particular device on panel, no matter how many other devices he's created, from blaster cannons to jet engines to mini-guns (with projectile bullets) to morphing himself into a starship, it's not "logical deduction" that he'd be able to create another device, taking into consideration his power is that of a techno-organic metamorph that can morph himself into technology, that he's a master in the field of genetics, power augmentation, and technology, and that he's on panel negated the powers of mutants before, it's "supposition".
Not to mention that by that line of reasoning there's no guarantee Magneto's powers would effect Apocalypse in the manner proposed because there's no on panel canon evidence to support it.
Wow...
It's really not even worth arguing for Apoc on this board anymore. No matter how sound your argument is the Mob will have it's way.
So be it.
I know for myself, and that's all that matters.
*edit
I also highly doubt the inhibitor would work on Apocalypse. He's far from a normal mutant and his cellestial tech would likely protect him.
I'm out of this argument from this point on though.
Carry on.
Martyr complexes are unbecoming...
It's a bit of a jump from jet engines and guns to "device which emits a frequency to selectively disable the X-gene, but doesn't inhibit his own X-gene-based omnimorph power." I can build a letterbox therefore I can build a 70 storey skyscraper. If you're going to suppose that you might as well say he can turn his arm into a "device that shoots off a beam that denatures hemoglobin, causing any human-based opponent to die of energy deprivation and acidosis." or a "device that triggers the simultaneous activation of all NMDA receptors in the brain causing instant death by seizure and oedema."
When did he "on panel negate the powers of mutants?"
Originally posted by illadelph12
So, basically, until he makes a particular device on panel, no matter how many other devices he's created, from blaster cannons to jet engines to mini-guns (with projectile bullets) to morphing himself into a starship, it's not "logical deduction" that he'd be able to create another device, taking into consideration his power is that of a techno-organic metamorph that can morph himself into technology, that he's a master in the field of genetics, power augmentation, and technology, and that he's on panel negated the powers of mutants before, it's "supposition".Not to mention that by that line of reasoning there's no guarantee Magneto's powers would effect Apocalypse in the manner proposed because there's no on panel canon evidence to support it.
Wow...
It's really not even worth arguing for Apoc on this board anymore. No matter how sound your argument is the Mob will have it's way.
So be it.
I know for myself, and that's all that matters.
*edit
I also highly doubt the inhibitor would work on Apocalypse. He's far from a normal mutant and his cellestial tech would likely protect him.
I'm out of this argument from this point on though.
Carry on.
So, as long as we're estimating arbitrary, theoretical possibilites on a character's power set, can I go ahead and say Magneto could manipulate entire stars? I mean, they are electromagnetic energy and everything...
