Magneto vs Apocalypse

Started by xmarksthespot12 pages

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
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Delusions? Yes. Beating Exodus & being unphased by a TP attack from him, defeating Loki, etc. are definitely just a bunch of delusions and nothing more... not.

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Elaborate on how one sole possibly telepathic sucker punch that caused Xavier pain, but failed to render him unconscious equates to being a stronger or more skilled telepath. Do go on. That's like saying if Wolverine sucker punched Spider-Man and hurt him it means Wolverine is stronger than Spider-Man. Fail.

And no Exodus didn't attack Apocalypse with telepathy.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Elaborate on how one sole possibly telepathic sucker punch that caused Xavier pain, but failed to render him unconscious.

I'm pretty sure Xavier WAS rendered unconscious.

We didn't see Xavier anymore after Apocalypse attacked him. He was conscious again when Cyclops merged with Apocalypse.

Xavier was up the next page he appears iirc. 😬

I don't have the comic here right now but will check later.

Oh and in The Search for Cyclops Jean held Apocalypse telepathically, so obviously Jean>Apocalypse...

Regardless, Apocalypse would still get his ass whooped against Lensherr.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Xavier was up the next page iirc. 😬

I don't have the comic here right now but will check later.

Issue?

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Issue?
UXM #377 I think. Or thereabouts. Or possibly X-Men #96-97. You know, recently... and not the much touted "Classic Apocalypse." But apparently still okay to use....

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Xavier was up the next page iirc. 😬

Originally posted by batdude123
Great plan... IF he could actually get threw Magneto's shields.

IIRC, I believe he as to actually inject the mutant with the serum in order for it to take effect.

There goes that plan. 👆

I think your confusing the devices. You are aware that there's a device called an X-Gene Inhibitor that emits an energy wave that negates mutant powers. As a matter of fact, I believe Mr. Sinister invented them. I wasn't talking about the the injections Apoc gave to his Horseman, I was talking about Apoc morphing his arm (or other body part) into the device Sinister invented. He can morph his body into machinery.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
UXM #377 I think. Or thereabouts. Or possibly X-Men #96-97. You know, recently... and not the much touted "Classic Apocalypse." But apparently still okay to use....
OK I'll check.

I found that funny as well, because apparently any good feat is OK to use from him (especially the bullshit that is Ikaris), but yet, any bad feat from the same year, or around there (didn't Apoc have a hard time with Cable in the Twelve, which is where I think the Xavier feat came from), is not acceptable...

No consistency, even in the Apoc fans.

I edited. 313

Jean wasn't "possibly telepathically attacked" and she still was knocked on her face by the energy blast as a result of Cable mounting an assault.

The second and third scan occur with different characters. So there's 3 pages until we next see Xavier wide awake and chirpy.

Oh and in case anyone's forgotten Xavier is a paraplegic and not generally a combatant.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
didn't Apoc have a hard time with Cable in the Twelve.

I explained that in the Apocalypse respect thread...

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
I thought I should point something out about this fight.

1. Apocalypse stated that he had been awaken from his rejuvenation chamber too early because of Cable, thus, Apocalypse was not at full power.

2. Apocalypse wanted Cable alive. Which is probably why he didn't perform any other attacks or increased his strength and punched the living hell out of Cable (Or Apocalypse possibly just pulled his punches).

Originally posted by illadelph12
I think your confusing the devices. You are aware that there's a device called an X-Gene Inhibitor that emits an energy wave that negates mutant powers. As a matter of fact, I believe Mr. Sinister invented them. I wasn't talking about the the injections Apoc gave to his Horseman, I was talking about Apoc morphing his arm (or other body part) into the device Sinister invented. He can morph his body into machinery.

Ah, okay.

Has he even used this against opponents?

I know of Forge inventing a projectile X-gene inhibitor, which was destroyed iirc, after it was used on Storm. I don't know of Sinister inventing one. Apocalypse is not Forge.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I know of Forge inventing a projectile X-gene inhibitor, which was destroyed iirc, after it was used on Storm. I don't know of Sinister inventing one. Apocalypse is not Forge.

I was gonna say.

I've never seen Apocalypse go around switching off the X-gene in mutants willy-nilly. 😬

If he were to somehow generate some frequency that inhibited mutant abilities why exactly wouldn't it affect him when he used it?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If he were to somehow generate some frequency that inhibited mutant abilities why exactly wouldn't it affect him when he used it?

Bingo. 131

Btw, are you gonna add to the Magneto respect thread like you promised awhile ago? mhm

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If he were to somehow generate some frequency that inhibited mutant abilities why exactly wouldn't it affect him when he used it?

Not if it's a directed weapon or if he has a frequency to protect himself.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not if it's a directed weapon or if he has a frequency to protect himself.
Regardless of whether it's directed, it would have to be generated from somewhere from him. If he's simultaneous generating a frequency and wavelength that nullifies the active one then why would the machine work at all?

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
I explained that in the Apocalypse respect thread...
Considering Cable had just fought Wolverine, and also was getting slapped around by Apocalypse when he was tied to the big X, before he fought Wolverine...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Regardless of whether it's directed, it would have to be generated from somewhere from him. If he's simultaneous generating a frequency and wavelength that nullifies the active one then why would the machine work at all?

I can answer that one. vin