Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If he were to somehow generate some frequency that inhibited mutant abilities why exactly wouldn't it affect him when he used it?
Because the nature of his powers means it's very hard, if not logistically impossible to create a device to negate them. He can alter his molecules and change his genetic structure. It's fairly easy for him to render himself immune to such a device. Not to mention that Pulse has the ability to shut down mutant powers, and even he couldn't shut down Apoc's abilities. 313
Originally posted by TricksterPriestThe nature of his powers is mutant with technological enhancement, being an omnimorph doesn't negate that he's a mutant. doped
Because the nature of his powers means it's very hard, if not logistically impossible to create a device to negate them. He can alter his molecules and change his genetic structure. It's fairly easy for him to render himself immune to such a device. Not to mention that Pulse has the ability to shut down mutant powers, and even he couldn't shut down Apoc's abilities. 313
Originally posted by batdude123
I can see you're truly ignorant of Magneto, and what he's capable of.
Nonetheless, I'm well aware of the master of magnetism's abilities, and the majority of his feats, thank you very much.
Originally posted by batdude123
I suggest looking through the Magneto respect thread before posting shit like this.
Heh. Speaking of respect threads, I was thinking about suggesting you to look in the Apocalypse one for the sake of pointing out feats of his that Magneto could never pull off, but then I came to the realization that you'd just consider them delusions or something of the sort, based on your attitude towards llagrok and what not...
Originally posted by batdude123
Ah, the Apocalypse ass pounders never cease to make me laugh. haermm
You're quite the friendly fellow aren't you? Regardless, I hope that we may eventually come to an understanding in order to avoid any... unnecessary conflict.
Originally posted by batdude123
Magneto throws a table at Poccy. 🙂And Apocalypse is the definition of a failure.
Regardless of who would truly "win" in this battle, both are incredibly awesome Marvel mutants/villains in my book. It's too bad those some X-Men fans have to divide themselves from one another like this...
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Elaborate on how one sole possibly telepathic sucker punch that caused Xavier pain, but failed to render him unconscious equates to being a stronger or more skilled telepath. Do go on. That's like saying if Wolverine sucker punched Spider-Man and hurt him it means Wolverine is stronger than Spider-Man. Fail.
... yeah. That Wolverine & Spider-Man example just convinced me. I'd have to be an idiot to disagree with that. 😛
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And no Exodus didn't attack Apocalypse with telepathy.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Oh and in The Search for Cyclops Jean held Apocalypse telepathically, so obviously Jean>Apocalypse...
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/psionic53.png (yeah. from the respect thread)
He was much more weakened in The Twelve saga though, so I guess that would explain why Jean was able to hold him telepathically 😬, but I wouldn't quite say that makes Jean>Apocalypse. Depends on the situation, I guess...
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The nature of his powers is mutant with technological enhancement, being an omnimorph doesn't negate that he's a mutant. doped
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I could easily say the same about you and Apocalypse.Nonetheless, I'm well aware of the master of magnetism's abilities, and the majority of his feats, thank you very much.
Yeah. I've been there, and was going to post in it at first, but didn't really have anything to contribute that others didn't already post/mention. I'm considering posting there later on anyway though. I'm not a Magneto hater or anything after all. Far from it in fact...
Heh. Speaking of respect threads, I was thinking about suggesting you to look in the Apocalypse one for the sake of pointing out feats of his that Magneto could never pull off, but then I came to the realization that you'd just consider them delusions or something of the sort, based on your attitude towards llagrok and what not...
Likewise, ones who try twisting the facts never seize to disappoint me. ❌ Either that, or you just enjoy taunting others who have a different opinion than yourself, like you're doing to me right now.
You're quite the friendly fellow aren't you? Regardless, I hope that we may eventually come to an understanding in order to avoid any... unnecessary conflict.
Heh. At least I'm not the one character bashing here.
Regardless of who would truly "win" in this battle, both are incredibly awesome Marvel mutants/villains in my book. It's too bad those some X-Men fans have to divide themselves from one another like this...
Hmm. Fine. Now that you put it that way, I guess you do have a valid point there after all...
... yeah. That Wolverine & Spider-Man example just convinced me. I'd have to be an idiot to disagree with that. 😛
Err, he did try attacking him with telepathy last I checked (though I guess I could be wrong). If it wasn't telepathy though, then what was it?
Not really, considering that a weakened Apocalypse did manage to punk Jean Grey psionically...
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/psionic53.png (yeah. from the respect thread)
He was much more weakened in The Twelve saga though, so I guess that would explain why Jean was able to hold him telepathically 😬, but I wouldn't quite say that makes Jean>Apocalypse. Depends on the situation, I guess...
True...
Well, you seem to be a sensible Apocalypse fan, so for that I apologize.
I've been over the reasons why Magneto would kick Apocalypse's ass MANY times in past threads, so you'll have to forgive me for being a little tired of posting them.
Originally posted by Ridley_PrimeTelekinesis iirc.
Err, he did try attacking him with telepathy last I checked (though I guess I could be wrong). If it wasn't telepathy though, then what was it?
Originally posted by Ridley_PrimeI wasn't actually implying Jean is greater than Apocalypse, all I was doing was illustrating how using a sole instance is never a good gauge. Just an N.B. Previously protecting himself from Jean's psiblast showed mental defenses, not actual telepathic ability... he comments on her power in such a manner that implies he does not have the same power.
Not really, considering that a weakened Apocalypse did manage to punk Jean Grey psionically...http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/psionic53.png (yeah. from the respect thread)
He was much more weakened in The Twelve saga though, so I guess that would explain why Jean was able to hold him telepathically 😬, but I wouldn't quite say that makes Jean>Apocalypse. Depends on the situation, I guess...
Originally posted by Ridley_Primeaoa is cannon u just dont like the book and pissed that apoc got his butt kicked by magneto
Just because he wears a Magneto avatar doesn't mean he's a fanboy of him who can't accept the truth on who would truly win in this current battle.Heh. Same here, ironically enough, though that still doesn't make him a weakling compared to Magneto.
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Delusions? Yes. Beating Exodus & being unphased by a TP attack from him, defeating Loki, etc. are definitely just a bunch of delusions and nothing more... not.
Even for someone who hasn't been here that long like me, it's quite evident that Trickster knows what he's talking about more-so than you, in this case.
No offense of course.
Actually, what he said there seems to be quite accurate about you (at least the "i not car if apoc r mid herald and pwn ikaris+bb+loki" part) since you seem to refuse to acknowledge Apocalypse for how powerful he truly is. That which you referred to as delusions. 😘
No, it's not. AoA takes place in an alternate universe where Genesis (I believe it was) travels back in time in an attempt to kill Magneto before he becomes a super villain, but accidently ends up killing Xavier, making Magneto leader of the X-Men instead, which all leads up to AoA, if I'm remembering correctly (and as I pointed out earlier, AoA Apocalypse and Magneto are a lot weaker than their 616 counterparts). Thus, AoA is non-canon.
Even if he could do it that easily, you think that alone would actually beat him? 😆
Originally posted by spidey-dude
its no crossover and the story was fair so yes i say its cannon
I agree, it is canon, however, Poccy's powers were ignored here. There is no way for Magneto to beat this guy. Apacolypse has atomic control over his body plus the ability to absorb/rechannel energy like Bishop. Magneto should have never been able to get a magnetic grip on him and tear him apart. Either one of these abilities should have negated that.
Originally posted by Rutog98why shouldnt he be able to get megnetic grip on him ? thats his power dude. and by the looks of it doesnt look like apoc is rubber. so im sure you can figure out what all mags can do to him.
I agree, it is canon, however, Poccy's powers were ignored here. There is no way for Magneto to beat this guy. Apacolypse has atomic control over his body plus the ability to absorb/rechannel energy like Bishop. Magneto should have never been able to get a magnetic grip on him and tear him apart. Either one of these abilities should have negated that.
Originally posted by spidey-dude
why shouldnt he be able to get megnetic grip on him ? thats his power dude. and by the looks of it doesnt look like apoc is rubber. so im sure you can figure out what all mags can do to him.
Apocalypse has the ability to absorb and rechannel energy. Therefore, he should have been able to absorb his magnetic energies and throw it back in his face. Even ignoring this ability to absorb/rechannel energy, Poccy's body is near-indestructable. Just tearing it apart should have been difficult for Magneto given the fact that Poccy is a class 100 strength character with the durability that entails. On top of that, he can control it at the atomic level. So if somebody wants to tear him apart, he can fight them on for that owing to the degree of control he has over his body. Put this with his Bishop-type powers and this was total PIS.
This is a shining example why I do not respect Magneto. Powerful characters are consistently written down for him. This means he is not a big and tough as many would like to think.
Originally posted by batdude123
Well, you seem to be a sensible Apocalypse fan, so for that I apologize.I've been over the reasons why Magneto would kick Apocalypse's ass MANY times in past threads, so you'll have to forgive me for being a little tired of posting them.
Truth is, I more than likely don't know whether Apocalypse and Magneto would win anymore well than you do. 😬 Either way, I'm a fan of the Darth Vader of X-Men (a.k.a. Magneto 😛) just as well.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I wasn't actually implying Jean is greater than Apocalypse, all I was doing was illustrating how using a sole instance is never a good gauge. Just an N.B. Previously protecting himself from Jean's psiblast showed mental defenses, not actual telepathic ability... he comments on her power in such a manner that implies he does not have the same power.
Point taken...
Originally posted by spidey-dude
aoa is cannon u just dont like the book and pissed that apoc got his butt kicked by magneto
Originally posted by Ridley_Primeim no apoc fanboy. it make sense to me that he got his butt kicked. its that priest dude that cries when eve apoc gets his ass kicked
Meh. It's okay. There have been instances where I acted just like you did earlier because of getting tired of repeating the same stuff over and over, so I understand. 😛Truth is, I more than likely don't know whether Apocalypse and Magneto would win anymore well than you do. 😬 Either way, I'm a fan of the Darth Vader of X-Men (a.k.a. Magneto 😛) just as well.
Ah, okay. I see where you're getting at now.
Point taken...
Dude... What do you take me for? Some Apoc fanboy who can't accept the truth? 😛 If it was canon, I'd be agreeing with you. It's not though since it contradicts the events of The Twelve saga (as well as the events with Onslaught, if I'm remembering correctly) because Apocalypse actually dies at the end of AoA, whereas he's alive in other comic series published after AoA, such as the one with him and Dracula. Aside from that, in the 616 universe, Xavier doesn't actually get killed by Genesis, nor does Magneto take his place as leader of the X-Men. 😬
Originally posted by Rutog98hes not as big and powerful compared to some of the other characters out today. before he was one of the most powerful guys when he 1s existed
Apocalypse has the ability to absorb and rechannel energy. Therefore, he should have been able to absorb his magnetic energies and throw it back in his face. Even ignoring this ability to absorb/rechannel energy, Poccy's body is near-indestructable. Just tearing it apart should have been difficult for Magneto given the fact that Poccy is a class 100 strength character with the durability that entails. On top of that, he can control it at the atomic level. So if somebody wants to tear him apart, he can fight them on for that owing to the degree of control he has over his body. Put this with his Bishop-type powers and this was total PIS.This is a shining example why I do not respect Magneto. Powerful characters are consistently written down for him. This means he is not a big and tough as many would like to think.
